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Old 09.04.2008, 12:19
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Shocking, disgusting behaviour by a traffic warden

I am truly hard to shock, but yesterday while driving to collect girly from school, I saw something that appalled me. There's a cemetary on my route and most days there seems to be a funeral. Yesterdays internee must have been a popular person because all the spaces were filled (around 20) outside the graveyard. I'd estimate 12 people had parked on the side of the (exceptionally) quiet road but a traffic warden was ticketing those individuals who weren't parked in a designated area. I am not stupid enough to misunderstand the rules of parking but this was, in my opinion, outrageous and crass and insensitive and I hope the recipients of the 40chf fines complain loudly and en masse.
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Old 09.04.2008, 12:21
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Re: Shocking, disgusting behaviour by a traffic warden

I must admit, I was expecting something substantially more "shocking"and "disgusting" than dispensing tickets to illegally parked vehicles.
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Old 09.04.2008, 12:26
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Re: Shocking, disgusting behaviour by a traffic warden

Had a similar experience once. When my motherinlaw was dying at home, we called the ambulance to take her to hospital. I had moved my car away from the regular parking space so that the ambulance could park right in front of their house to take her out. I actually got a ticket whilst they were loading her into the vehicle, even though the traffic warden saw what was happening and I had explained the situation to her. Very callous person!
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Old 09.04.2008, 12:41
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Re: Shocking, disgusting behaviour by a traffic warden

Not the least bit surprised. I've seen cars stuck in a snowstorm getting tickets in CH. In CH you always have to assume that if you are parked wrongly you will get a ticket no matter what the circumstances.
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Not the least bit surprised. I've seen cars stuck in a snowstorm getting tickets in CH. In CH you always have to assume that if you are parked wrongly you will get a ticket no matter what the circumstances.
And not necessarily only from the traffic wardens ... The ordinary citizens can also issue you with a fine for not parking properly ( apparently they give this out at the gemeinde )
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Rules, regulations and things are here to help humans get by and get along as best as we can.

People who are given the job to enforce these rules should use their natural sense of compassion and common sense to make exceptions. Do they think they're robots unable to exercise discretion and better judgment?
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Maybe it was this guy who wrote the manual:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...icle395585.ece
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In Switzerland, you have to assume that yes, they are robots in this regard.


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Maybe it was this guy who wrote the manual:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...icle395585.ece
Do they get a cut from the fines collected or what?

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Old 09.04.2008, 12:55
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Rules, regulations and things are here to help humans get by and get along as best as we can.

People who are given the job to enforce these rules should use their natural sense of compassion and common sense to make exceptions. Do they think they're robots unable to exercise discretion and better judgment?
Rules are required to ensure a system that is fair to all. If I dress in black and look sad, am I entitled to park whereever I want in the vicinity of cemetaries and funeral homes?
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[QUOTE=Jekyll;203251]Rules are required to ensure a system that is fair to all. If I dress in black and look sad, am I entitled to park whereever I want in the vicinity of cemetaries and funeral homes?[/QUOTE


As the OP said, ALL the allocated spaces were filled. It was a quiet street outside the cemetery -- where else could the remaining mourners have parked?
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It's an urban myth that Swtzerland is rich due to banking. It's traffic infingements that keep the coffers full!
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Rules are required to ensure a system that is fair to all. If I dress in black and look sad, am I entitled to park whereever I want in the vicinity of cemetaries and funeral homes?
No, not if you are not genuinely attending a funeral. But if the commune has not or cannot provide adequate parking nearby and you have taken care not to obstruct the circulation of traffic and haven't obstructed someone's driveway then perhaps a little grace would be welcome at a time when the people you are ticketing are their to show their respects to others. On the other hand perhaps it would also be helpful if the funeral directors organising the funeral consulted the Commune/Gemeinde if a large attendance is expected so that appropriate measures could be taken to ensure a sad and emotional event can pass without offending the rights and sensibilities of everyone.
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Re: Shocking, disgusting behaviour by a traffic warden

In Soho Square in London a few years ago a warden was giving a ticket to a car when the woman owner arrived, struggling with shopping and 2 kids in a push chair. She was just a couple of minutes over her time and was in tears (London tickets are really expensive). A big crowd assembles as the woman was pleading with the warden who completely ignored her.

A passing white van driver wound down his window and shouted out "Why don't you eat the babies as well you ******* *******" He got a big cheer from the crowd and the warden literally ran away (after slapping the ticket on the windscreen).

In some rougher areas of North and East London the wardens are on scooters. They jump off (keeping their crash helmet on for safety) slap on a ticket and are away in seconds before they get attacked.
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In Soho Square in London a few years ago a warden was giving a ticket to a car when the woman owner arrived, struggling with shopping and 2 kids in a push chair. She was just a couple of minutes over her time and was in tears (London tickets are really expensive). A big crowd assembles as the woman was pleading with the warden who completely ignored her.

A passing white van driver wound down his window and shouted out "Why don't you eat the babies as well you ******* *******" He got a big cheer from the crowd and the warden literally ran away (after slapping the ticket on the windscreen).

In some rougher areas of North and East London the wardens are on scooters. They jump off (keeping their crash helmet on for safety) slap on a ticket and are away in seconds before they get attacked.
And in Switzerland , they have your friendly neighbour who could don you in , anonymously
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Re: Shocking, disgusting behaviour by a traffic warden

When i was living back in the UK i had parked my car, and paid for it to be there for 2 hours as i was walking to my car (i was also only a couple of minutes late) a traffic warden was writing me a ticket where upon i ran to him and pleaded for him not to give me the ticket saying sorry e.t.c. he told me once he had started to write the ticket then he had to give the ticket, but not to me he had to put it on the car.
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Rules, regulations and things are here to help humans get by and get along as best as we can.

People who are given the job to enforce these rules should use their natural sense of compassion and common sense to make exceptions. Do they think they're robots unable to exercise discretion and better judgment?

I came to the conclusion after almost 8 years of living in Switzerland that the concepts of 'discretion, benefit of the doubt, leeway, cutting some slack' etc. were not ingrained in society as a whole.

Some people were pretty decent but those in positions of authority (no matter how small the degree of authority) especially seemed to totally lack any semblance of empathy or compassion.

As to what they get out of their pettiness, I guess it's the warm feeling that they obeyed the rules which is what seems to take precedence over common sense and humanity.
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Ticketing mourners' cars is pretty deplorable and I think it was totally "jobsworth" of the warden. Having said that, Switzerland has built up an international reputation of being efficient, well run, organised and dependable. Without its dogmatic approach to rules and regs, it perhaps wouldn't be enjoying this rep today.

This is just one example of the downside to having such a culture which is committed to rule-following.
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How do we know all cars were from mourners?
And not taking the ****?
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