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Re: Swiss people, what to know (by a Swiss)

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Thanks for the tip about the washing machine! It is so true- sharing a one in the building is mighty difficult especially with time restrictions (good luck with the "no laundry after 10.00pm" when you work crazy hospitality shifts & after 10.00pm is your only free time!)

... but it is way more economical and ecological!
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I dont agree with 'clean with nature' and 'nature friendly' though. The amount of rubbish and dogbags laying around in nature is growing day by day.
I also notice that the Swiss produce a lot of garbage, the recycling of garbage is not very well organised, they don't mind their ecological footstep, taking planes for holiday, ordering stuff from around the world etc..
I take offense at this, may I remind you that not everyone is like that
Just last week I spent an hour in public transport holding onto a drink container, to dump it out at the stop in the correct garbage bin, as opposed to tossing it on the floor right after emptying like some other (who am I to judge if they're Swiss or not) people do.

That's called basic manners and consciousness for one's surroundings, something (surprise, surprise) the Swiss as well as other nationalities are very capable of exhibiting.
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Old 24.03.2015, 06:41
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I dont agree with 'clean with nature' and 'nature friendly' though. The amount of rubbish and dogbags laying around in nature is growing day by day.
I also notice that the Swiss produce a lot of garbage, the recycling of garbage is not very well organised, they don't mind their ecological footstep, taking planes for holiday, ordering stuff from around the world etc..

While the amount of rubbish is a plague, it is NOT growing at all. It is the same since the 1950ies. The Recycling of garbage is extremely organised. And taking airplanes for holidays and ordering stuff from around the world is the right of all


There is a reason why I on elections carefully delete whomever sounds to be "ecologist"
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My experience of cops here (from my limited experience) is:

Basel - really courteous and helpful and drop into English at the slightest sound of your painful German. I knew a retired Basel cop who told me everyone was so easy here because Basel was "bequem" (comfortable).

AG - I used to rat run over the Bözberg in the 90s and got stopped a couple of times for "enthusiastic" driving. Again, always polite.

Zurich - I only remember one occasion when my bird was stopped driving back from a concert. They seemed to me to be polite but ruthless. She (a Basler) complained bitterly afterwards about how petty the offence had been and how overbearing they were.

I think one problem with expats here may be the (perceived) high incidence in the Swiss population of Bitchy Resting Face (and its male equivalent as the video explains). The Swiss don't really hate you; it's just how their muscles relax - you can't blame them for that, can you?


Well, if confronted by Basler people, many an otherwise relaxed Zürcher becomes rather harsh automatically.
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Re: Swiss people, what to know (by a Swiss)

You mentioned "Very animal friendly" In the positive list:

Before moving here, I would guessed the same. After being here for a while, I think putting those very loud bells on the necks of all cows is very cruel. It makes such a loud noise all the time, and it is right next to their ears. They must be really suffering from the noise or becoming deaf.
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You mentioned "Very animal friendly" In the positive list:

Before moving here, I would guessed the same. After being here for a while, I think putting those very loud bells on the necks of all cows is very cruel. It makes such a loud noise all the time, and it is right next to their ears. They must be really suffering from the noise or becoming deaf.
The Local has written about this issue
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Re: Swiss people, what to know (by a Swiss)

Is this really true about the native swiss people outside in real life? I find it hard to believe.
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Old 22.09.2018, 21:09
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Is this really true about the native swiss people outside in real life? I find it hard to believe.
What is true? Sorry, my memory does not go back to threads last posted to in 2015.....
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What is true? Sorry, my memory does not go back to threads last posted to in 2015.....
- careful whom to offer an apology here, people s...t on your apology half the time and make you feel even worse.

- boring in general, but the few here that are the opposite of boring, make up for it (we got some serious extreme sportsmen and women that do crazy stuff !! perhaps list this also as good!) no, but really, people here are boring.

- unfriendly government employee. Police can be extremely rude.

- Complain and complain instead of taking action when it would really matter. But for small ridiculous things, we do start conflicts immediately as mentioned already.

- Problems with small talk, extremely direct and appear distrusting to people that apply social small talk with them, but then they do small talk themselves...

- Stubborn. We CH are always right, even if we are wrong.

- too much negative stereotyping of foreign nations (not racism, racism is common, but not more or less like in any other countries, the stereotyping is bad however).

- do never forget a bad experience (bad as in it isn't even so bad), grab to it until the end of days to get back to someone.

- judge people too fast by appearance and initial comments

- distrust new faces immediately instead of rather being welcoming

- extremely hard to make friendships

- not united / uncooperative unless you pay for a service

- Like to start conflicts (without use of force or foul language) over small ridiculous reasons, aka better knowers.


Ok, are all this true?
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- careful whom to offer an apology here, people s...t on your apology half the time and make you feel even worse.

- boring in general, but the few here that are the opposite of boring, make up for it (we got some serious extreme sportsmen and women that do crazy stuff !! perhaps list this also as good!) no, but really, people here are boring.

- unfriendly government employee. Police can be extremely rude.

- Complain and complain instead of taking action when it would really matter. But for small ridiculous things, we do start conflicts immediately as mentioned already.

- Problems with small talk, extremely direct and appear distrusting to people that apply social small talk with them, but then they do small talk themselves...

- Stubborn. We CH are always right, even if we are wrong.

- too much negative stereotyping of foreign nations (not racism, racism is common, but not more or less like in any other countries, the stereotyping is bad however).

- do never forget a bad experience (bad as in it isn't even so bad), grab to it until the end of days to get back to someone.

- judge people too fast by appearance and initial comments

- distrust new faces immediately instead of rather being welcoming

- extremely hard to make friendships

- not united / uncooperative unless you pay for a service

- Like to start conflicts (without use of force or foul language) over small ridiculous reasons, aka better knowers.


Ok, are all this true?
Yes, all are true as all Swiss people are the same.
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Old 22.09.2018, 21:21
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Is this really true about the native swiss people outside in real life? I find it hard to believe.
Are Swiss people outside in real life? Yes, definitely.

Some are lovely, some introverted, some open and hearty, some are sick, some are too busy or too drunk or too high to care, some care deeply and stand up for what they believe, some are harsh and judgmental, some are selfish, some are afraid, some are deliriously wealthy, some are desperately poor, some are warmly welcoming, many go out of their way to be kind and helpful where they notice and feel connected to the need.

People just are.
Everywhere.
In real life.
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Old 22.09.2018, 22:14
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- careful whom to offer an apology here, people s...t on your apology half the time and make you feel even worse.

- boring in general, but the few here that are the opposite of boring, make up for it (we got some serious extreme sportsmen and women that do crazy stuff !! perhaps list this also as good!) no, but really, people here are boring.

- unfriendly government employee. Police can be extremely rude.

- Complain and complain instead of taking action when it would really matter. But for small ridiculous things, we do start conflicts immediately as mentioned already.

- Problems with small talk, extremely direct and appear distrusting to people that apply social small talk with them, but then they do small talk themselves...

- Stubborn. We CH are always right, even if we are wrong.

- too much negative stereotyping of foreign nations (not racism, racism is common, but not more or less like in any other countries, the stereotyping is bad however).

- do never forget a bad experience (bad as in it isn't even so bad), grab to it until the end of days to get back to someone.

- judge people too fast by appearance and initial comments

- distrust new faces immediately instead of rather being welcoming

- extremely hard to make friendships

- not united / uncooperative unless you pay for a service

- Like to start conflicts (without use of force or foul language) over small ridiculous reasons, aka better knowers.


Ok, are all this true?
No, that's the foreigners.

Tom
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Ok, are all this true?
It's the same as with everything here, it varies from canton to canton
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Yes, all are true as all Swiss people are the same.
Yep. Friedrich Schiller designed the prototype and ever since then all Swiss were cloned from that.

There is a problem with the naturalized ones, they seriously feck up the overall picture. OP should check on that when noticing slight irregularities.
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It's the same as with everything here, it varies from canton to canton
Haha exactly.
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Re: Swiss people, what to know (by a Swiss)

Thank you for this post. I have lived here 5 years with my husband. He was born in Ticino but then left with his family at the age of 4 to live in San Francisco. He kept telling me a lot of what you just stated but I chose not to believe him because I like to see the good in people. Slowly I have come to these same conclusions. The good thing is that this understanding will allow me to break through the walls that people construct. (After all, we all have them.) And on the positive end the Swiss have many good qualities that other cultures may not have. It's particularly nice that this perspective come from you.
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What are "the Swiss"?
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An easy way of saying 8 million people are exactly the same...
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Old 07.10.2018, 13:09
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It should not be so tough to be well integrated with a robot. 😱
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It's the same as with everything here, it varies from canton to canton village to village
FTFY!

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