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Hausamsee 01.02.2015 12:50

Swiss 'Fish' species racism!
 
What is wrong with FISH Swiss people?

Why are Swiss people so racist against fish?

Whenever I cook fish it's always "uuuugh, the smell is horrible"..or "nicht Gern" blah blah blah..

...there are very few proper seafood restaurants in any city which is strange when you have France as a neighbour, just some poxy lakeside fish restaurants with ONLY (yes you guessed) lakeside fish dishes and no other decent meer frucht on the menu.:confused:

I will however compliment this country on its 'Frutti Di Mare' Pizza's and all other meat and vegetable produce available in the supermarkets, and even seafood you can buy (like crevetten for salads, lachs, etc) but again, how to make Swiss people disappear from a communal barbecue, stick some grill fish on it (which I might say, when I'm annoyed with them periodically, I do).

I'm thinking about starting a campaign group 'Stop Fish racism in Switzerland' ...poor things!

evianers 01.02.2015 13:26

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Originally Posted by Hausamsee (Post 2331819)
What is wrong with FISH Swiss people?

Why are Swiss people so racist against fish?

Whenever I cook fish it's always "uuuugh, the smell is horrible"..or "nicht Gern" blah blah blah..

...there are very few proper seafood restaurants in any city which is strange when you have France as a neighbour, just some poxy lakeside fish restaurants with ONLY (yes you guessed) lakeside fish dishes and no other decent meer frucht on the menu.:confused:

I will however compliment this country on its 'Frutti Di Mare' Pizza's and all other meat and vegetable produce available in the supermarkets, and even seafood you can buy (like crevetten for salads, lachs, etc) but again, how to make Swiss people disappear from a communal barbecue, stick some grill fish on it (which I might say, when I'm annoyed with them periodically, I do).

I'm thinking about starting a campaign group 'Stop Fish racism in Switzerland' ...poor things!


Ues, entirely agree.
We have an elderly Swiss friend who says she doesn't like fish because

"us fischelet" whatever that means. Do they not realise how healthy is fish?

mirfield 01.02.2015 13:27

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If it's anything like their fruit, veg and meat, it's probably half rotten by the time most of it gets to the customer. No wonder they think it stinks.

Hausamsee 01.02.2015 13:34

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If it's anything like their fruit, veg and meat, it's probably half rotten by the time most of it gets to the customer. No wonder they think it stinks.

In supermarkets it's fresh-as-you-can-get on ice, etc with great displays (like the French) especially in Globus, shame not many people buy it... ..why not give up fags and eat fish I say, very healthy and lots of protein!!!

Here swiss people, have some of this: :D

I may even start a Dorr franchise in Zurich, sure it would do really well!!

tooki 01.02.2015 13:47

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I really hope the post above was supposed to be in jest.

So much of the fish here is just terrible. Is it rotten? Technically, no. Is it truly fresh? No. Most of what's on display at grocers (including Globus) is just ordinary frozen seafood that they thawed out. (Of course, if it's frozen, which can be good quality, I'd rather thaw it at my convenience, rather than them thawing it and having it sit there going off at the store before you buy it...)

That said, indeed, the Swiss are generally put off by even the tiniest bit of fishiness (that's what they mean when they say "es fischelet"). It's just that they weren't brought up with it. So just as many Asians are put off by strong cheese odors that people here appreciate, the Swiss are put off by fish smells that others appreciate. It's just a matter of acquired tastes, exposure, and upbringing.

st2lemans 01.02.2015 13:52

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You obviously live in the wong part of Switzerland, we've had fish 4 times this week. :rolleyes:

Tom

Guest 01.02.2015 14:28

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My late father in law, Dutch, not Swiss was also put off by the smell of fish cooking. And yet, he loved his haring! I think it's more a question of ventilation. We need more windows in these concrete boxes.

We eat lots of fish. Having some tonight, in fact.

Wollishofener 01.02.2015 14:48

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Originally Posted by evianers (Post 2331866)
Ues, entirely agree.
We have an elderly Swiss friend who says she doesn't like fish because

"us fischelet" whatever that means. Do they not realise how healthy is fish?



äs fischelet "" means that it stinks. Much fish comes from the sea and is too old when arriving, and often not well stored. And then there is widespread prejudice against fish (but not against Tuna salad)

3Wishes 01.02.2015 14:55

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Originally Posted by tooki (Post 2331887)
...So much of the fish here is just terrible. Is it rotten? Technically, no. Is it truly fresh? No. Most of what's on display at grocers (including Globus) is just ordinary frozen seafood that they thawed out. (Of course, if it's frozen, which can be good quality, I'd rather thaw it at my convenience, rather than them thawing it and having it sit there going off at the store before you buy it...)...

I think it very much depends on where you buy it. In some stores, the fish in the case has not been deep frozen and thawed. It's been chilled to near-freezing and shipped/kept on ice. You can definitely taste the difference between this fish and the ones that are rock-hard that you pull from the freezer section. Is it fresh-from-the sea? No, but it's still pretty good. Try it yourself sometime. Buy a deep-frozen fish and the same from the fresh case. Cook them at the same time (well, after the frozen one thaws) and in the same way. You'll see they're not the same.:)

As for fishy smell, I think that's a very personal thing. We've rarely found a fish here to be super smelly. However we always buy and cook the same day. I think some folks pick up fish as part of a weekly shop and don't use it immediately, don't keep it on ice (just chuck in the fridge) thus resulting in the smell.

We eat fish at least once a week. None of our Swiss neighbors or even dinner guests have complained about the fish being smelly.

Wollishofener 01.02.2015 14:57

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Originally Posted by Hausamsee (Post 2331877)
In supermarkets it's fresh-as-you-can-get on ice, etc with great displays (like the French) especially in Globus, shame not many people buy it... ..why not give up fags and eat fish I say, very healthy and lots of protein!!!

Here swiss people, have some of this: :D

I may even start a Dorr franchise in Zurich, sure it would do really well!!



http://www.fischers-fritz.ch/de/beiz/karte/

http://www.bindella.ch/upload/cms/us...rte-10.141.pdf


http://www.fischstube.ch/sites/defau...e_2014_pdf.pdf


http://www.commercio.ch/webautor-dat...te-_Feb-15.pdf


http://restaurant-le-rendez-vous.ch/...nuar.Abend.pdf



http://www.bindella.ch/upload/cms/us...arte-04.14.pdf

Here just some of the Restaurants in Zürich specialising on fish. Many Italian and Spanish Restaurants have good fish meals


particularily beautiful Location and good fish in Oberrieden
http://keywest-zuerich.ch/angebot.html

Guest 01.02.2015 15:29

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Originally Posted by Wollishofener (Post 2331922)
(but not against Tuna salad)

That's because tuna isn't fish. It's sea chicken. ;)

Wollishofener 01.02.2015 15:37

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Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 2331892)
You obviously live in the wong part of Switzerland, we've had fish 4 times this week. :rolleyes:

Tom


no he does not live in the wrong part but he purchases in wrong places, handles it badly and does not visit the right restaurant

Meerkat33 01.02.2015 16:08

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In southern switzerland there's fresh fish every day directly from the wholesale market of milan (one of the biggest), but I'm sure that the fact that zurich is a couple of hours further from the sea doesn't make that big difference, maybe you should try fisheries or just a different supermarkets, in some supermarkets it's always smelly or only frozen not fresh, in italy too not only in switzerland, i don't know why there are these big differences but people usually learn which shop has good fish and which doesn't, just like meat.

Medea Fleecestealer 01.02.2015 17:16

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Funny. The Swiss seem to go mad on seafood at Christmas time so where have you been? Lobster, Coquelles St. Jacques, mussels. You name it, they have it.

Our local restaurant's speciality is Crevettes a Go Go.

slammer 01.02.2015 17:16

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…enter Slammer on stage… whistling ever so smugly…!
Got the smaller of these pointy buggers in my freezer, just need to saw a steak off anytime I get my grilled swordfish on..:D

Chuff 01.02.2015 17:24

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Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 2331892)
you obviously live in the wong part of switzerland, we've had fish 4 times this week. :rolleyes:

Tom

WELL IVE HAD IT 10 TIMES THIS WEEK HAHA LOOK AT ME IM THE BEST IN THE FISH THREAD!

etc etc

Sbrinz 01.02.2015 17:29

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I also love to eat fish, and confess to buying non-frozen fish here, packed with a neutral gas, to help preserve it. Other fish are usually of disappointing quality.

At the big Coop at Bern-Wankdorf, the ice was not changed regularly, and the stench of old fish juice on the old ice was appalling, I was thus put off by the sloppy presentation. Perhaps it is better today, but it used to smell really bad.

Maybe it is the extra border crossing that causes the delays, but fresh fish bought in nearby France is far superior to Swiss sea fish. And when have you seen conger eel or periwinkles for sale here? In France, only 41 Kms from Neuchâtel! https://www.google.ch/maps/dir/Neuch...106!2d47.05698

Guest 01.02.2015 18:03

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Originally Posted by Chuff (Post 2332019)
WELL IVE HAD IT 10 TIMES THIS WEEK HAHA LOOK AT ME IM THE BEST IN THE FISH THREAD!

etc etc

You on the same diet or is this now a "big willy" competition ?

I'm having by IV drip

rajiv1982 01.02.2015 18:17

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You can get fresh fish in Zurich where they are receiving fish from Indian ocean countries like maldive,india etc.

They will display the calendar when the fish is reaching here.

Belgianmum 01.02.2015 18:30

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We eat fish at least twice a week and we've served it to guests ( Swiss and non Swiss) and nobody has ever complained.
Being a landlocked country the choice is perhaps more limited than in other places but there us still plenty of choice available.
We always bring fish back if we shop in France and the good thing us that there us no limit on quantity.


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