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Old 06.02.2015, 13:48
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Yes he does, but far more clever than the low level banter here. It is one thing to "poke fun" at oneself, far different to do so at someone else's expense.

Knowing that "The Theory of Everything" (film portrayal of his life authored by his first wife) has tecently been released, to anyone with an interest in SH, I would highly recommend watching the BBC film that came out in 2013(?) entitled Stephen Hawking, a Life. It is viewable on Youtube.
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Old 06.02.2015, 13:50
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Yes he does, but far more clever than the low level banter here. It is one thing to "poke fun" at oneself, far different to do so at someone else's expense.

one can get beaten up just for referring to oneself as one
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My posts in this thread are not meant to be bashing people who are slightly overweight... just those that are overweight to the point where it potentially affects their health, and who then complain about it. We all (within reason) have the power to fix this stuff, there is no reason for anyone to look in the mirror every day and feel miserable.
Who decides where the boundary between slightly overweight and proper obese is? Does it make a difference whether a person is not capable of keeping a figure that you approve of because of a lack of exercise or because of a medical condition when you judge them on the street without knowing the cause? The point is that it is apparently acceptable to make overweight women feel like they are second class citizens and to make fun of guys who are pleased with a bit more junk in the trunk (this is what guys who genuinely fancy larger women told me), after all, chubby chaser is a derogative term and I'm not sure whether there is an equivalent for men who are fixated on stuff like a thigh gap or clearly visible spine.


So I guess this futile demand for VS to make larger sizes stems from a desire to feel sexy too or to be able to go on girly shopping trips as a group with different sizes in it. It probably also has to do with the issue of being made to feel like a woman who doesn't fit a restrictive beauty norm is, in fact, no longer a woman but more of a "thing". Fat men also get bashed but never to the extent that women do and if they are funny and charming with a good job, it often doesn't matter so much. A woman will find herself being called too fat for wearing a UK size 14 and above, while a guy has to pack on some serious weight before he gets fat-shamed.


VS is the poster child for upholding an almost impossible to achieve body ideal. Same hairstyle, same make-up, same facial features that only vary in their hue - identikit beauty. Beauty, yes, they are stunning, it's their job after all, but all the same. They also represent what must be about 2% of the human population's genetic predisposition for height, skin tone, muscle tone, hair quality etc. combined with a willingness to make sure that predisposition is expressed to maximum effect AND a stunning face. I'm happy to look at them and acknowledge that they are masterpieces, the problem begins when people think that this is how everyone should want to be or compare real human beings to photoshopped images of already perfect creatures.

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Old 06.02.2015, 13:53
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Yes he does, but far more clever than the low level banter here. It is one thing to "poke fun" at oneself, far different to do so at someone else's expense.

so you come on a thread entitled big girls need to suck it up and expected an intellectual stimulating debate?? now who's not being very clever

now take your head out your arse
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Re: Big girls need to suck it up

Just to derail this thread even further. Please explain how Shaggy gets to eat all the time once they've rumbled the bad guy, but keeps such a thin frame?
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Old 06.02.2015, 14:02
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He's always chasing ghosts? (or running away from them)
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Old 06.02.2015, 14:02
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Just to derail this thread even further. Please explain how Shaggy gets to eat all the time once they've rumbled the bad guy, but keeps such a thin frame?
He's not thin in real-life. You've just seen him photo-shopped.

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Old 06.02.2015, 14:15
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Old 06.02.2015, 14:16
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Old 06.02.2015, 14:17
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Maybe this will help the queers, bitches and dinosaurs navigate this thread.
What about queer dinosaur bitches?

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What about queer dinosaur bitches?

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They can join the other freaks in LGBTQQIAAP
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Old 06.02.2015, 14:27
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VS is the poster child for upholding an almost impossible to achieve body ideal. Same hairstyle, same make-up, same facial features that only vary in their hue - identikit beauty. Beauty, yes, they are stunning, it's their job after all, but all the same. They also represent what must be about 2% of the human population's genetic predisposition for height, skin tone, muscle tone, hair quality etc. combined with a willingness to make sure that predisposition is expressed to maximum effect AND a stunning face. I'm happy to look at them and acknowledge that they are masterpieces, the problem beginns when people think that this is how everyone should want to be or compare real human beings to photoshopped images of already perfect creatures.
It's advertising. They sell underwear - and a lot of it.
They make it exclusive to certain sizes to create a brand image.

Glad you're not taken in by advertising.

It's like that slim woman who used to be in the Kelloggs Special K adverts. If you really ate that sugar-laden junk everyday, you wouldn't look like that.

It's the same with those Gym protein powders. Most blokes aren't going to look the guy in the commercial because they're not going to train six hours a day. Whether they eat the stuff or not will really not make much difference.

A 3000CHF Gucci bag is not 1000 times better than a 100 CHF bag.

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Old 06.02.2015, 14:32
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Re: Big girls need to suck it up

just a quick headsup to all the people bitchin

you realise not all men like thin women? or supermodels (most are not very attractive anyway) and there seems to be a huge gulf between what woman think is attractive (in a woman) and what men think.

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Who decides where the boundary between slightly overweight and proper obese is?
Erm... medical science?

What a bizzarre bloody quesiton.

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Does it make a difference whether a person is not capable of keeping a figure that you approve of because of a lack of exercise or because of a medical condition when you judge them on the street without knowing the cause? The point is that it is apparently acceptable to make overweight women feel like they are second class citizens and to make fun of guys who are pleased with a bit more junk in the trunk (this is what guys who genuinely fancy larger women told me), after all, chubby chaser is a derogative term and I'm not sure whether there is an equivalent for men who are fixated on stuff like a thigh gap or clearly visible spine.
Again what are you talking about... where have I said I "disapprove" of anything or that I "judge people in the street"?

All I said previously was that unless a person has a valid medical condition then they CAN change their weight and do something about losing it. Stop making other things up to suit your arguments.

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So I guess this futile demand for VS to make larger sizes stems from a desire to feel sexy too or to be able to go on girly shopping trips as a group with different sizes in it. It probably also has to do with the issue of being made to feel like a woman who doesn't fit a restrictive beauty norm is, in fact, no longer a woman but more of a "thing". Fat men also get bashed but never to the extent that women do and if they are funny and charming with a good job, it often doesn't matter so much. A woman will find herself being called too fat for wearing a UK size 14 and above, while a guy has to pack on some serious weight before he gets fat-shamed.
I don't personally care what other people call a woman too fat for... to me the only thing that matters when forming an opinion is if a person (male or female) is negatively affecting their health with their weight.

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VS is the poster child for upholding an almost impossible to achieve body ideal. Same hairstyle, same make-up, same facial features that only vary in their hue - identikit beauty. Beauty, yes, they are stunning, it's their job after all, but all the same. They also represent what must be about 2% of the human population's genetic predisposition for height, skin tone, muscle tone, hair quality etc. combined with a willingness to make sure that predisposition is expressed to maximum effect AND a stunning face. I'm happy to look at them and acknowledge that they are masterpieces, the problem begins when people think that this is how everyone should want to be or compare real human beings to photoshopped images of already perfect creatures.
Do you think in real life that the men in this thread all date Victorias Secret models, and that we have no idea what the average woman look slike? No, shock, we date normal girls.
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Do you think in real life that the men in this thread all date Victorias Secret models, and that we have no idea what the average woman look slike? No, shock, we date normal girls.
Are you saying the VS girls are abnormal? And you'd avoid them?
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Do you think in real life that the men in this thread all date Victorias Secret models, and that we have no idea what the average woman look slike?
American average, or Swiss average?

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No, shock, we date normal girls.
Define 'normal'.

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Gingers first, always gingers first, unless you can find a chubby ginger of course

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah a chubby ginge, put her in some VS undies and we defiantely got a winner on our hands for all you chubby haters

Get her out BB2, you can leave the Porsche at home !
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Erm... medical science?

What a bizzarre bloody quesiton.
BMI with the bandings mentioned is a poor guide on a micro level.

In the US in 1998 health authorities decided it was alright to shag a fatty - they moved the "overweight" lower limit from 27.8 to 25.
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"normal" and "woman" are 2 words that just don't mix
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just a quick headsup to all the people bitchin

you realise not all men like thin women? or supermodels (most are not very attractive anyway) and there seems to be a huge gulf between what woman think is attractive (in a woman) and what men think.

Wow. Seriously? Thanks for clearing that up.
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