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Hi, I see your point, but I hope to reach people that might need to get the info I am trying to share to prevent them from useless spending and dispair. I thought the title I gave would call their attention easier as it contains keywords I would look up myself when searching in internet for relevant info.
Do you really think someone out there on the Internets who has a problem with a Swiss mattress would search the EF for "terribly bad, all"? They might google "Swiss mattress," and that's in my suggestion too.

Besides that, the search function of the EF isn't restricted to thread titles. Actually, the default search mode scans both titles and text bodies.

As I wrote, generalizations are frowned upon here, although you'll always gain a small but dedicated following by using one of them.

By the way, if Swiss mattresses were so bad, that would be an absolutely great business opportunity. Have some double-blind comparisons between Swiss and Spanish mattresses done and hit the Swiss market big time. There are no mattress cartels or laws in Switzerland that could prevent any company from selling Spanish mattresses and making oodles.
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Do you really think someone out there on the Internets who has a problem with a Swiss mattress would search the EF for "terribly bad, all"? They might google "Swiss mattress," and that's in my suggestion too.

Besides that, the search function of the EF isn't restricted to thread titles. Actually, the default search mode scans both titles and text bodies.

As I wrote, generalizations are frowned upon here, although you'll always gain a small but dedicated following by using one of them.

By the way, if Swiss mattresses were so bad, that would be an absolutely great business opportunity. Have some double-blind comparisons between Swiss and Spanish mattresses done and hit the Swiss market big time. There are no mattress cartels or laws in Switzerland that could prevent any company from selling Spanish mattresses and making oodles.

Thanks for your suggestion. No time (nor interest) for business here... And just fyi, I do believe in the title of my thread, as far as my experience goes. I accept that other peple think differently. I did not try to make it up.
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Old 08.02.2015, 19:36
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Matresses in Switzerland are terrible, the worst ever. And the problem is that one is stuck here as all shops sell swiss mattresses. I guess it is a perfect business because people who buy a Swiss mattress soon needs to go to the shop to change it. Normally, shps don't change it or only to the same model but with different hardness. Thus, one needs to buy a second 'swiss' mattress, hoping this will be ok, given the high price! But it is not, and after buying the 3rd, and the 4th... And then searching for alternatives one finds out that all mattresses in Switzerland are made out with the same material basis from a company in the Swiss German part... It is surely a great business (people try to buy new better ones frequently to new dissapointment) and a total trap to those living in this (strongly protectionist) country.
Business industry, government... Please, let brands from other countries to bring their mattreses here. It would largely improve people's health
Have you tried Pilates or yoga to improve your posture and condition your back muscles?

It sounds like you have the problems and not the mattress but you should be able to fix it with just a few exercises and then you'll be able to sleep on any old mattress or indeed the floor.
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Old 08.02.2015, 19:42
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Hi, I see your point, but I hope to reach people that might need to get the info I am trying to share to prevent them from useless spending and dispair. I thought the title I gave would call their attention easier as it contains keywords I would look up myself when searching in internet for relevant info.

Thanks for your advice.
So far, you have only complained. What information do you want to share? If you have info to share, why don't you just... share it? Simples.

Elitebeds in Aubonne next to IKEA sell mattress toppers made out of pure wool, pure silk or feather- much cheaper than replacement- and just down the road from you. And yes, you can find all sorts of mattresses in SC, even the old-fashioned one with horse-hair.

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I did not find recently a springs mattreses without foam on the surfaces, and this foam is a clear problem. Spring mattresses seem to work well for me.
Maybe you looked in the wrong places.

E.g. the IKEA Hesseng mattress does not contain foam.

Then there's Hüsler Nest all natural beds and mattresses.

Or Lavital if you don't mind a trip to Zurich.

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Have you tried Pilates or yoga to improve your posture and condition your back muscles?
Or swimming.
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Re: Swiss mattresses are terribly bad, ALL

Ms. Pescado sounds a bit fishy to me... I think she' s got you all on her line ...
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Thanks for your suggestion. No time (nor interest) for business here... And just fyi, I do believe in the title of my thread, as far as my experience goes. I accept that other peple think differently. I did not try to make it up.
Presumably nobody doubts your experience as i geuss nobody here is in a position to.

However, it's simply inconceivable for you to have tried each brand, make, every variant, etc. And even if you had, that wouldnt make them bad, it merely would make them bad for you.

Long story short:
You found out that those YOU TRIED are unsuitable TO YOU, AND YOU ALONE (not counting people who may have similar experiences).
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Old 08.02.2015, 21:42
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Re: Swiss mattresses are terribly bad, ALL

We have two brands of mattresses, both with covered springs (coils?).

1. Schramm VERY expensive & disappointing
Disappointed by expensive mattress [now resolved]

2. IKEA, bought out of their Fundgrube ( floor models). Delightfully comfortable and great price, though the actual frame is a bit ordinary.


I completely understand your love of some hotel mattreses.

Have you tried Sealy Posturepedic? Here is a site which sells online direct in Switzerland. ( make sure to ask for innerspring type to avoid the foam, which you dislike)
http://www.superiorbeds.ch/2015-new-...FeHLtAodQTQAUw
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Matresses in Switzerland are terrible, the worst ever. And the problem is that one is stuck here as all shops sell swiss mattresses. I guess it is a perfect business because people who buy a Swiss mattress soon needs to go to the shop to change it. Normally, shps don't change it or only to the same model but with different hardness. Thus, one needs to buy a second 'swiss' mattress, hoping this will be ok, given the high price! But it is not, and after buying the 3rd, and the 4th... And then searching for alternatives one finds out that all mattresses in Switzerland are made out with the same material basis from a company in the Swiss German part... It is surely a great business (people try to buy new better ones frequently to new dissapointment) and a total trap to those living in this (strongly protectionist) country.
Business industry, government... Please, let brands from other countries to bring their mattreses here. It would largely improve people's health

http://www.micasa.ch/de/search/alle%...oCYaApwD8P8HAQ


I bought a mattress from CASA (Migros) in 1992, moved it three times, and still like it, I still at times use the older bed I got in about 1960, which is still good but a bit worn out


Swiss people on holidays abroad usually complain about too weak stuff


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The thread reminds me of the old joke about KLM (Königliche Luchtvaart Maatschappij) and the only good translation into German which is Königliche Luft-Matratze

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Re: Swiss mattresses are terribly bad, ALL

Maybe they are not all s%*t, but the last two I have had have been terrible, especially for the price, in the UK I could have had a Tempur for the same price as my Superba(d).
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Re: Swiss mattresses are terribly bad, ALL

A mattress???
A mattress???

When I was a lad we used to sleep on the stone floor using rats for pillows. We went to bed at 11pm and woke at 3am. We had a lump of coal for breakfast then worked 16 hours down pit. Back home and beaten before back to bed.
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A mattress???
A mattress???

When I was a lad we used to sleep on the stone floor using rats for pillows. We went to bed at 11pm and woke at 3am. We had a lump of coal for breakfast then worked 16 hours down pit. Back home and beaten before back to bed.

You young'uns had it easy then
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Have you tried Pilates or yoga to improve your posture and condition your back muscles?

It sounds like you have the problems and not the mattress but you should be able to fix it with just a few exercises and then you'll be able to sleep on any old mattress or indeed the floor.
Hello, I do not have problems when I sleep in most beds in other countries.
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Hello, I do not have problems when I sleep in most beds in other countries.
Have you tried changing the base of the bed, maybe that's the problem rather than the mattress?
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We have two brands of mattresses, both with covered springs (coils?).

1. Schramm VERY expensive & disappointing
Disappointed by expensive mattress [now resolved]

2. IKEA, bought out of their Fundgrube ( floor models). Delightfully comfortable and great price, though the actual frame is a bit ordinary.


I completely understand your love of some hotel mattreses.

Have you tried Sealy Posturepedic? Here is a site which sells online direct in Switzerland. ( make sure to ask for innerspring type to avoid the foam, which you dislike)
http://www.superiorbeds.ch/2015-new-...FeHLtAodQTQAUw
Many thanks, Susan, for these useful tips. I am going to follow up with the contact re. Sealy and check Ikea. Thanks!!!

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Have you tried changing the base of the bed, maybe that's the problem rather than the mattress?
Yes, I recently bought a boxpring, following recommendations of a vendor... Again, it might not be the best choice; the problem is to have to learn from experience.

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Re: Swiss mattresses are terribly bad, ALL

Off the top of my head, I know of at least two "foreign" mattresses purveyors that work in Switzerland.

Flou and Duxiana

Considering I know of these two and I'm not even searching for a bed, I can't even imagine how many other "foreign" brands mattresses must be out there....

I'm surprise you haven't come across there or other "foreign" beds in your search.
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I have Tempur and quite happy with it. They do sell in CH as well from what I see.
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wihtout the sticky mouss that gets onto the body
Who's been telling you that the sticky mouss came from the mattress? Talk about gullible
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Re: Swiss mattresses are terribly bad, ALL

The OP could always go here;

http://www.londoncraftweek.com/event....wnm9ZbH6.dpbs

see exactly what's gone in her mattress and never have to worry about "sticky mouss" again!
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Re: Swiss mattresses are terribly bad, ALL

Shame here isn't a Savoir Bed Shop in Switzerland yet - http://www.savoirbeds.co.uk/about-savoir-beds.asp. But have you tried Hastens? http://www.hastens.com/de-ch/our-story/story
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