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Swiss People and similar: how to get rid of it? [Directory Websites]

Hi everyone,

Few months ago I decided to google my complete name on Google.

Surprisingly I discover that I was present in different websites, which includes not only name and surname, but also the place where I live and my phone number.

For the moment, I am not able to "unsuscribe" from:
- Swiss people
- Swiss data history
- opendi.ch

What would you advice me to do?

Thanks in advance,
Daniele
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Re: Swiss people and similar: how to get rid of it?

Sites usually have a contact or abuse report button, so contact them & ask them to remove the data. Did you put your address somewhere on a public forum or blog? Are you in the phone book?
https://support.google.com/legal/ans...420?hl=en&rd=2
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Re: Swiss people and similar: how to get rid of it?

The title misled me....
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Re: Swiss people and similar: how to get rid of it?

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What would you advice me to do?

Thanks in advance,
Daniele
Reduce your internet activity, using your real name ..... and make sure that you haven't been cloned, when you were asleep.
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Re: Swiss people and similar: how to get rid of it?

No way to hide from internet it is everywhere Lucky my last name is one of the most popular around so you google my name you get thousands of results.

Or you can make your own profile/cv like page so when people google you they get what you want them to see.
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Re: Swiss people and similar: how to get rid of it?

If your number is published in the telephone book, your details are visible through at least the following:
http://www.local.ch
http://tel.search.ch
Other sites, eg opendi.ch simply take date from these sources.
Going ex-directory would have helped here.
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Re: Swiss people and similar: how to get rid of it?

You may have confirmed publishing your number when you signed up... - Contact your provider to remove the info. - However, the internet stores "everything"... so chances are your information will be visible for quite some time...
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Re: Swiss people and similar: how to get rid of it?

These websites collect, connect and republish data from several public sources, including the phonebook, trade register (Handelsregister) and WHOIS entries from domain names. They really are a pain in the a..!

The only way to avoid showing up on such websites, is not to have any entries in public directories and to use WHOIS proxies yourself when registering a domain.

swiss-data-history.com and swiss-people.com (obviously from the same provider) are really bad. They clearly state that they don't give a damn and that they are not willing to modify or delete personal data ("Beachten Sie bitte, dass der Betreiber keine Korrespondenz zu Daten und Inhalten führt.") This is against Swiss (and European) privacy laws etc., but of course, they don't care. They are a bunch of anonymous cowards, and their WHOIS entries only show a proxy address in Texas or GoDaddy proxy service.

Opendi.com, however, has an imprint ("Impressum") with a full address. This company is based in Munich, Germany. So at least, you have a reliable way to contact them.
In their Datenschutz section, they claim that they oblige to privacy laws. ("Personenbezogene Daten werden von dem Anbieter nur dann erhoben, genutzt und weiter gegeben, wenn dies gesetzlich erlaubt ist oder die Nutzer in die Datenerhebung einwilligen.") This is quite a general impressum text, mainly aimed at website visitors, but you could try to pin them on it also for what they do with your data in the directory.

According to Swiss Data Protection laws, they must not process your data against your express wish. (This includes storing and publishing your data.)

Federal Act on Data Protection (Switzerland) - Art. 15 and others.
Bundesdatenschutzgesetz (Germany) - §20 and others

You could try and ask Google to suppress the search results with your name in them, using this form.
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Re: Swiss people and similar: how to get rid of it?

Good morning,

Thank you for the replies, and sorry for the title of the thread. It is a bit misleading

However, I forgot to say that I am not in the phone book. Just to be sure, I am checking now and I am not present there. I cannot say the same about to be cloned. Actually I really think that someone wanted to do something with my name, but I do not have any proof.

As said, I have been able to delete my personal information from other website, simply checking their privacy policy. I had the same idea (WHOIS) to further investigate about the first two websites, but I gave up hope. I drop an email to opendi but I am still waiting for a reply/remove my data.

Thanks also for the law article regarding my case. For the Google form I though it was only for EU citizens (at least at the beginning), I will try also with them
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Re: Swiss People and similar: how to get rid of it? [Directory Websites]

You have the right to your picture and to your data.

Only swiss persons/organisatons are bound by swiss law. Find sample letters here. Send them a registered letter each that says
- you want to be removed from their data base
- you forbid them to give your data to any and all 3rd persons

Personally, I would also want to know what data about me they store. I would send a letter demanding they tell me that, and simultaneously forbid them to forward my data to any and all 3rd persons. Once I got satisfying answer I'd send the removal letter.

swiss-data-history.com is registered by Godaddy, a commercial US company, I would seek the help of the Commisioner on Data Protection for anything abroad.
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