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Re: Swiss Manners

Hi Nick! Yeah, this is something we discuss about alot! I always say sorry - even when it's them that ramed into me. They somehow think they are kings and queens and therefore never have to move or apologize. I tried for 15 mins with my sister NOT to dodge the people in Freiestrasse or Steinenvorstadt. You can imagine!!! Bumping into one person after the other and then THEM still insulting me for not dodging!!! Amazing! If anyone finds out how to survive - plse let me know!!! Good luck and take care!
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Amazing! If anyone finds out how to survive - plse let me know!!!
Keep your hands in your pocket and use your elbows.
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In other news - don't you just LOVE the ignore function? *feels much more relaxed*
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I have yet to try to walk on the streets without dodging the people.

I maybe am so used to avoid collisions that I think I do it unconciously.

Long time a city cyclist, rolling at high speed on the Geneva traffic serpenteating between the cars, and then also walking fast in the middle of big crowded cities ( real big, not the little ones we have here) have teached me to don't even think about that.

I also got bumped so much at the dance parties that this experience is useful for that too

Just go to any dance party on a free entrance day. and try to get from one corner to the other with a full glass in your hand. That sport could be declared an olympic discipline, believe me
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Reminds me of Sargeant Schultz in Hogan's Heroes; "I zee nothingk! I zee nothingk!".

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Re: Swiss Manners

How to have pockets... Summers here (skirts, dresses)! Hihi!! But I could walk barefoot with my highheels on my fists, walking arms stretched out! Ach, it keeps me fit to dodge. But thanks for the tip!! I'll try in winter with my coat!
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Old 08.05.2008, 14:23
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In my opinion, this is very subjective.

Different cultural background may have viewed this differently.

I, too, found the Swiss Manners very strange.

At least, most of their manners were unintentionally.

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How to have pockets... Summers here (skirts, dresses)! Hihi!! But I could walk barefoot with my highheels on my fists, walking arms stretched out! Ach, it keeps me fit to dodge. But thanks for the tip!! I'll try in winter with my coat!
Walk with an icecream in your hand. One guy with a expensive suit at Zürich HB almost raced into me while I was walking very slowly and predictable. He stopped just about 20 cm away from my icecream and gave this frustrated look .
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Walk with an icecream in your hand. One guy with a expensive suit at Zürich HB almost raced into me while I was walking very slowly and predictable. He stopped just about 20 cm away from my icecream and gave this frustrated look .

Ooohhhh! That was a close one. That's too bad. Would have been more fun had he not noticed the ice cream a split second longer.
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Old 09.05.2008, 16:16
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Ooohhhh! That was a close one. That's too bad. Would have been more fun had he not noticed the ice cream a split second longer.
Schadenfreude, just another human fallibility.
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In Italy it's quite normal to cut in front of people in a line.
I've seen this remark a few times in this thread. Yes in Italy a lot of people do this, but in Italy this is bad manners and frowned upon. If you do that in Italy you usually get an healty dose of abusive words and/or obscene gestures, especially when driving a car.
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Schadenfreude, just another human fallibility.
But that wasn't Schadenfreude, that was wishful thinking.
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Old 09.05.2008, 19:14
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I've seen this remark a few times in this thread. Yes in Italy a lot of people do this, but in Italy this is bad manners and frowned upon. If you do that in Italy you usually get an healty dose of abusive words and/or obscene gestures, especially when driving a car.

I don't remember anyone ever giving anyone else abuse or getting obscene gestures over cutting in line in a shop or such, not person to person.

Funny, I was going to say, people are polite enough not to get in a tiff over this type of behavior. But it is that they are too polite to fight or is it that it doesn't bother them enough to fight about it?? That I don't know.

Anyway, it was just an illustration.
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Old 09.05.2008, 19:49
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Re: Swiss Manners

Depends on my mood...if I am a bit crabby and notice someone staring at me, and they notice me noticing them and don`t look away, then my return stare is rather hostile. Sort of a `WTF are you looking at??!` return stare.

But in general, I just find myself absentmindedly staring at people with mild curiosity and observing what they are doing or how they are dressed. Sometimes, I notice that they notice me staring at them and I think...yeah, so what if I am staring at you? We are in Switzerland and that is how we behave here. So then we have sort of a stare-off and the first one who looks away loses. It is usually me.


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I'd like to ask you about this newly developed staring habit of yours. Is this is an unconscious drifting of the mind kind of staring, or is this a staring with a particular intent? Is it out of curiousity, forgetfulness or hostility?

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Old 09.05.2008, 21:41
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Re: Swiss Manners

So we got on Deutsche Bahn train from Bern to Interlaken. There were like 10 seats free around us in the bar part of the train. I was standing next to one ready to take off my shoulder bag. An old lady grabbed me by the arm and literally threw me away and took my seat. I was speechless!

It got better. Have you ever seen an old Swiss white guy do the 2pac OG walk? I have and it looks funny. Poster boy for SVP I tell you. So we were standing on the platform and this guy grabs my wife's shoulder bag to push her out of the way and sends her into a spin. He had about 2 meters free space to walk past her. My wife shouted "hallo" at him but he ignored and kept walking proud of what he had done. This time I had enough and shouted A-hole and few other choice cuts.

Jungfrau restaurant have these stand up round tables for eating. Me and my wife were having coffee. Next this Asian chap comes and stands with us. Which is fine as it was not an exclusive table. Then another one from his group joins the table. Basically they all join in and physically squeeze us out of the table I think they were Japanese.

I think manners to some extent are universal. Some people are considerate and others not. I don't think it's a pure Swiss or non-Swiss thing.
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Old 09.05.2008, 22:35
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Three people bumped into me in the three minutes that I was using the photo machine in the Bahnhof. Considering there's a big, open space near the machine I thought that was quite impressive.
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Re: Swiss Manners

must say that the whole thing about the swiss not knowing what personal space is, is getting to me...
I chatch the bus to and from work every day, and in the evening when we all stand around at the station, waiting for the driver to open the doors, people stand so close to you, breathing down your neck - even if there is ample space around you. I once even turned around to some guy who was seriously invading my little bubble and asked him if he was going to buy me a drink first or did he want to do the funky all over the station?.... (he did not quite understand what I was trying to say, though....pity)

Here I also want to add that I am from South Africa, and we always have about 30 - 40 people waiting for a bus or taxi, in the station or at one of the so called taxi stops...
No matter how many people there are... once the bus or taxi arrives, there will always be a queue formed and people get in, in an orderly fashion. There is no pushing over of old people, or tugging at your bag to get ahead...
Here's something Switzerland could learn form a third world country...
how to form a queue :-)
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And I thought my experiences were strange. Some of these posts are getting more and more.... bizarre!


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...So then we have sort of a stare-off and the first one who looks away loses. It is usually me.
This is funny. I might try it some time.
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Old 10.05.2008, 00:22
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Re: Swiss Manners

Just to turn this thread on its head, what about Swiss attitudes to celebrity?

The rich and famous not only like Switzerland's low tax-regime, they also like they way they are left alone, not to say ignored in public - except by non-Swiss of course...
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