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Old 28.05.2008, 19:46
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"Gaht's noch..?" doesn't sound (to me) like the kind of comment that would ordinarily accompany a "very dirty look." Is it possible that her facial expression was an involuntary reaction to the screeching noise, and not necessarily directed at you personally?
"Gaht's no??" can be pretty rude (depends a bit on the intonation). If accompanied by "the right look" it means something like "what the do you think you're doing here?"
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Old 28.05.2008, 19:48
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Noise, especially a painful screeching noise, can be very bothersome for the locals. What you noticed is probably a lack of patience on her part.

Instead of blowing my fuse, I sometimes just respond with a chuckle and a look. They get puzzled and hardly know what to make of it. Internally, I'm thinking "you petty little.... whatever".
Thanks, you're probably right..guess it's probably the more dignified option
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Old 28.05.2008, 20:33
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"Gaht's no" is an expression of disagreement What probably happened to girlcertified is that he nudged the table while leaving, thus greatly disturbing the vis-à-vis.
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Old 28.05.2008, 20:44
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maybe they were from Nantucket
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Old 28.05.2008, 20:47
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"Gaht's no" is an expression of disagreement
Even when asked as a question??
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Old 28.05.2008, 20:52
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who could refuse such (an) offer Texaner?
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Old 28.05.2008, 21:22
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Even when asked as a question??
The German "Geht's noch?" is a weaker version of "You nuts?"

"Geht's?" or in Swiss German "Gaht's?", "Goht's?" is the non-offensive "You okay?"
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Old 28.05.2008, 21:29
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The German "Geht's noch?" is a weaker version of "You nuts?"

"Geht's?" or in Swiss German "Gaht's?", "Goht's?" is the non-offensive "You okay?"
Wow — all this time I thought everybody was asking if I was alright... (just kidding )

Seriously, that's an eye-opener and a lesson learned. Thanks, Nathu.
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Old 28.05.2008, 23:26
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This reminds me vaguely of the old mountain farmer who had never been to Zurich in his life. Only when he was drawing his pension was he was finally persuaded by friends and family to pay a visit.

He duly arrived at the main station and proceeded to make his way up Bahnhofstrasse. Stopping off for a coffee at 9:00am and then visited various shops, taking a look at the lake and the other attractions of the town. After a good lunch he realised he has lost his umbrella, so he went back to the restaurant, but they didn't have it.

Slowly he retraced his steps calling in at ever shop and café he had visited but no one had his 'brolly'. Finally, and by this time he was quite downhearted, he shuffled in to the very first restaurant he had visited at 9 o'clock. A smiling waitress handed over his neatly folded collapsible black Knirps umbrella.

Without a smile he snatched back his property and barked at her, "Do you know, you're the only honest person I've met in this town"...

A bacteria floating about in space came across a man-made space satellite and thought - wow this looks cool. Let me explore further and see what I find.

So he proceeds to go through the various tubes and viaducts and thinks -this seems to be a great place to live. Maybe man has created this machine so that we bacteria could be comfortable in this home and protect ourselves from the freezing cold of space.

Suddenly he finds himself in a burning fire chamber at the very rear of the satellite and dies- his last thoughts before dying are- alas man has only created this machine so that he could trap bacteria and kill them. Perhaps I should have known better....
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Old 28.05.2008, 23:31
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A bacteria floating about in space came across a man-made space satellite and thought - wow this looks cool. Let me explore further and see what I find.

So he proceeds to go through the various tubes and viaducts and thinks -this seems to be a great place to live. Maybe man has created this machine so that we bacteria could be comfortable in this home and protect ourselves from the freezing cold of space.

Suddenly he finds himself in a burning fire chamber at the very rear of the satellite and dies- his last thoughts before dying are- alas man has only created this machine so that he could trap bacteria and kill them. Perhaps I should have known better....
And I thought my post might have been a little off topic...
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Old 28.05.2008, 23:35
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Hmmm..... I usually try to abstain from making comments like this.... but this is a bit of a Swiss thing (don't want to say its typically Swiss). I've been in similar situations a couple of times. My fuse blows quickly - my normal reaction would be to start cursing at her in my worst working-class Viennese German which she likely would not understand and just look perplexed.
True, cussing in Viennese or Styrian really throws off the Swiss. Been there, done that.
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I'm just very glad Mrs Boris is such a nice person.
Someone got on the bus Mrs Boris and the Borisettes were travelling on and because the pushchair was overhanging the isle by two inches, a large woman made a real show of barging past. However, her fat arse caught the pushchair handle and pulled it over. Mk 1 infant finds herself on the floor with a very bloody nose. The woman then starts bawling Mrs Boris out. Mrs Boris ignores her and tries to right he fallen pushchair while several dozen people stared excitedly and didn't lift a finger to help a women with a baby in a back carrier to upright the thing.
Luckliy, Mk 1 asks if all the red stuff is pizza sauce, so Mrs Boris says it is so as not to frighten her.
After all the other crap with people pulling the kids about and yesterday's incident on the bus, I have had it with this place and I'm taking the first job I can get that's not here.
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I'm just very glad Mrs Boris is such a nice person.
Someone got on the bus Mrs Boris and the Borisettes were travelling on and because the pushchair was overhanging the isle by two inches, a large woman made a real show of barging past. However, her fat arse caught the pushchair handle and pulled it over. Mk 1 infant finds herself on the floor with a very bloody nose. The woman then starts bawling Mrs Boris out. Mrs Boris ignores her and tries to right he fallen pushchair while several dozen people started excitedly and didn't lift a finger to help a women with a baby in a back carrier to upright the thing.
Luckliy, Mk 1 asks if all the red stuff is pizza sauce, so Mrs Boris says it is so as not to frighten her.
After all the other crap with people pulling the kids about and yesterday's incident on the bus, I have had it with this place and I'm taking the first job I can get that's not here.
That is outrageous! Nothing can excuse that kind of behaviour - I'm so sorry for the little one (but have to have a smile at the pizza sauce reference - kids, eh?).

I really hope you find somewhere more friendly although, I hate to say it, I think this is a modern disease which is infecting everywhere.

For the record, I would have picked up your MK1, bloody nose and all, and helped your wife.

Then probably passed out cos I'm rubbish with blood...
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Old 02.06.2008, 18:15
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I'm just very glad Mrs Boris is such a nice person.
Someone got on the bus Mrs Boris and the Borisettes were travelling on and because the pushchair was overhanging the isle by two inches, a large woman made a real show of barging past. However, her fat arse caught the pushchair handle and pulled it over. Mk 1 infant finds herself on the floor with a very bloody nose. The woman then starts bawling Mrs Boris out. Mrs Boris ignores her and tries to right he fallen pushchair while several dozen people started excitedly and didn't lift a finger to help a women with a baby in a back carrier to upright the thing.
Luckliy, Mk 1 asks if all the red stuff is pizza sauce, so Mrs Boris says it is so as not to frighten her.
After all the other crap with people pulling the kids about and yesterday's incident on the bus, I have had it with this place and I'm taking the first job I can get that's not here.
That's pretty out of order - at least the child wasn't more seriously injured.

Seems that your kid was the victim of the national sport of point scoring. For too many people, when they see something that irritates them they can't help but either make a snide comment or else make a point physically.

eg. I could swear that I often saw cars speed up when someone pulled out of a side street down the road ahead of them - so that they could slam on the anchors and make the point of how they were being held up.

Not good either that the whole carriage just stood and gawped without offering any help. Another sadly typical trait.

And of course the idiot who injured your kid through making a petty point could only think to have a go at your wife. The trifecta.


Still, at least no-one complained about your child making a mess by bleeding
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eg. I could swear that I often saw cars speed up when someone pulled out of a side street down the road ahead of them - so that they could slam on the anchors and make the point of how they were being held up.
God, I thought I was the only one who thought this - I also noticed it when some hapless sod pulls out in front of a tram (although not dangerously so) the tram driver speeds up and simultaneously leans on his bell.
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However, her fat arse caught the pushchair handle and pulled it over. Mk 1 infant finds herself on the floor with a very bloody nose.
I also saw this happen on a bus recently. Couldn't believe the people just sitting there watching this woman trying to right her pusher, calm the child and return all her spilled groceries to the bags.... and the looks I got as I was trying to help. Glad your youngun is ok.

Sometimes i'm amazed by the beauty of this place, then shocked back into reality by the behaviour of a few.....
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One of the first things I noticed upon my first winter visit to Switzerland was how people behave in "lines" (queues for the Brits). Specifically lift lines at ski resorts. I come from Vancouver, Canada where lineups are unfortunately rampant. However, most people are very respectful of the order of the line. The lines usually consist of two entry points so at one point they must meet, and people actually alternate the order. In Switzerland however, lines don't exist. A funnel of people trying to squeeze their way onto the lift is a more appropriate description.
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I'm just very glad Mrs Boris is such a nice person.
Someone got on the bus Mrs Boris and the Borisettes were travelling on and because the pushchair was overhanging the isle by two inches, a large woman made a real show of barging past. However, her fat arse caught the pushchair handle and pulled it over. Mk 1 infant finds herself on the floor with a very bloody nose. The woman then starts bawling Mrs Boris out. Mrs Boris ignores her and tries to right he fallen pushchair while several dozen people stared excitedly and didn't lift a finger to help a women with a baby in a back carrier to upright the thing.
Luckliy, Mk 1 asks if all the red stuff is pizza sauce, so Mrs Boris says it is so as not to frighten her.
After all the other crap with people pulling the kids about and yesterday's incident on the bus, I have had it with this place and I'm taking the first job I can get that's not here.
This has happened to me and my husband on separate occasions with my daughter in her pushchair. Thank goodness she has never actually been hurt in these incidents, but in both cases the pushchair was in the appropriate place on the tram and not sticking out at all. Once on the bus I was reduced to tears by a man who refused to move out of the way so I could fit my pushchair in.

I have also OFTEN seen grown men SHOVING my four year old out of the way so that they can get on the tram first.
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Yep - this morning I saw a 30-something man barge in front of a frail old lady to get on the bus and push past people to get a seat.
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Yep - this morning I saw a 30-something man barge in front of a frail old lady to get on the bus and push past people to get a seat.
Those frail old ladies can look after themselves! I've seen them doddering about at the front of a bus / tram queue looking like they might spark out at any second then as soon as the bus / tram arrives they turn into an olympic hurdler and are in the last single seat with the wee dog and shopping blocking the aisle before you can blink.
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