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Old 03.03.2016, 11:39
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Re: Do you feel unwelcome in Switzerland?

I have been called a dirty, foreign whore, but that was in jest. I hope!!

I was calling the person in question, in jest, a dirty Arab. We have been friends for over twenty years. And that was our way of saying hello. It would shock people who didn't know us. Until we laughed and hugged.

Wierd, i know.
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Old 03.03.2016, 11:39
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Re: Do you feel unwelcome in Switzerland?

Everybody was super kind in our first week in Switzerland. We had 5-6 holidays in 2016 and people have been nice with us. Maybe this will change once we actually live there. I generally think if you are positive, smile, friendly - you will get same response back. No problems so far.
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Re: Do you feel unwelcome in Switzerland?

I never have felt unwelcomed in the three times I have visited. Now we are planning to move definitely and we will see. I did have a few awkward moments which I preferred to laugh them off, because I honestly think my husband's relatives and friends were just trying to be nice.

On our second trip to CH, we had just got married and my hubby wanted to introduce me to the rest of his family and to his childhood friends. (just to put you in context: I am from Honduras and we live in the Bay Islands,of Honduras in the Caribbean) We went easily to 6 different BBQ parties...in each single party they offered me Bananas...seriously, they would say: We have water, wine, beer or maybe you would like a banana? At first I thought it was weird and then by the third lunch my husband picked it up...by the sixth offer I had to say: I know Honduras exports bananas, I know we love them...but no, I don't eat them ALWAYS, but I will take Himbeeries anytime!

I felt they thought in Honduras we hanged around banana trees always...

The last visit, my mother-in-law was surprised to see I was able to operate the washing machine or drive a car...Yes Honduras is a third world country but we do have technology here. Though the toilets in Switzerland did make me feel stupid, didn't know how to flush them😁. Ours have a little handle on the tank and in Switzerland the flush thing is on the wall..jajajaja..had a good laugh when I had to go out and ask my hubbie how to flush..jajajaja
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Old 03.03.2016, 11:54
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Though the toilets in Switzerland did make me feel stupid, didn't know how to flush them��. Ours have a little handle on the tank and in Switzerland the flush thing is on the wall..jajajaja..had a good laugh when I had to go out and ask my hubbie how to flush..jajajaja
Don't let it bother you. Like everything else here it varies! And it was a Swiss who, in Switzerland, asked me how to flush one specific toilet. Me:"You take the jug which is on the floor beside the toilet, fill it with water from the large bucket standing there and throw contents iinto the toilet bowl." Maybe she felt stupid too!
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Re: Do you feel unwelcome in Switzerland?

Jajaja..that way is more the Honduran way too..jajaja
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Re: Do you feel unwelcome in Switzerland?

It has changed over the years.

I remember the time I called the tax office around 23 years ago and asked "do you speak English?', to which shot back the reply (in Swiss German) that if I'm paying taxes here I should be able to speak the language. At that time it really hurt. And it really did make a huge difference whether you were in a City to being out a bit further e.g. Innerschweiz.

But I haven't felt unwelcome at all, anywhere in the past 15 years or so, quite the opposite.
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You clearly no nothing of Swiss history.

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Don't let it bother you. Like everything else here it varies! And it was a Swiss who, in Switzerland, asked me how to flush one specific toilet.
Two years ago, at a gas station in Leelanau County, Michigan, an old guy ("old" meaning even older than me) asked me for help. He just couldn't figure out how to that dang gas pump dispense some fuel.

I showed him how to do it and said, "I know it's confusing, and if you make a tiny mistake, the operating system of the pump crashes and the chick from the store check-out has to come out and restart it. Happens time and again. Believe it or not, last summer I shot a photo of this very pump here to show my friends and relatives in Switzerland how complicated these things are in the USA." I quickly showed him that photo on my camera.

He said, "You are Swiss? Not a local? All the more embarrassing then. I was born in Norway* in 1943, and my family came to this area in 1947. I have been living twelve miles from this gas station ever since, and yet I had to ask a foreigner for help."

We had a good laugh.

*) Norway is a country in northern Europe. I'm mentioning this because Holland also is the name of a city in Michigan, on Lake Michigan. Old Joke: You might be from Michigan if you think "coast to coast" means from Port Huron to Holland.
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Old 03.03.2016, 14:07
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Re: Do you feel unwelcome in Switzerland?

In general no...

But to go back to the OP.. (and the vote on Sunday) ... what the 'anti foreigner' Swiss always seem to forget is that it was a fellow Swiss who approved our entry.

Any Swiss person who doesn't like the fact that there are 'so many foreigners' should take it up with the local immigration office... not us !
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Old 03.03.2016, 14:21
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In general no...

But to go back to the OP.. (and the vote on Sunday) ... what the 'anti foreigner' Swiss always seem to forget is that it was a fellow Swiss who approved our entry.

Any Swiss person who doesn't like the fact that there are 'so many foreigners' should take it up with the local immigration office... not us !
It wouldn't have been awefully busy at the desk then ...
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Old 03.03.2016, 14:50
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It wouldn't have been awefully busy at the desk then ...
They have a desk?! I thought they only have a call center where all the people who could not communicate well enough to work at a drive-in end up...
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Old 03.03.2016, 15:07
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I am from Honduras and we live in the Bay Islands,of Honduras in the Caribbean)
Isla de Utila! One of my favourite places in the world and one the only ones I'm willing to suffer IAH airport to get to

By coincidence, I've just been to visit my friend from Utila in Innsbruck, where he's staying with his Austrian girlfriend... given it's such a tiny island, you probably know who I mean already...
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Old 03.03.2016, 15:57
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Re: Do you feel unwelcome in Switzerland?

I have experienced all of CorsebouTheReturn's categories. Very much welcomed in some of the Vaudois villages, tolerated everywhere else (most Swiss just take a while to warm up - and so do I), and some "unwelcome" behaviour from some Swiss (although this strongly borders on indifference and rudeness). Unfortunately, the real "unwelcome" behaviour (or extreme rudeness) was from fellow expats


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I remember being approached by an SVP campaigner in the street around then.
Talking of political parties, on two occasions, the SP/PS happened to be distributing long stemmed roses to every female on a particular area, when they suddenly became selectively blind (which is different from SVP/UDC who are happy to stop me and chat).
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Isla de Utila! One of my favourite places in the world and one the only ones I'm willing to suffer IAH airport to get to

By coincidence, I've just been to visit my friend from Utila in Innsbruck, where he's staying with his Austrian girlfriend... given it's such a tiny island, you probably know who I mean already...
Utila rocks! Do you like diving?
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Old 03.03.2016, 16:24
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... From 1931 ...
Wow- I didn't know you were that old.
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I agree with you completely there and it's not something unique to Switzerland.

I remember very vividly as a child growing up in a village in Yorkshire how we used to look in awe at the 'black' men walking up the road to work in the local mill. They were lovely and friendly but they were 'different' and we'd never seen anyone like that before.
This was the UK in the seventies.
I also remember when the first 'coloured' person moved into a street near me. My mother was horrified when she discovered that one of her 'friends' was moving to another village because they 'didn't want to live in a street with people like that'. She didn't really see that 'friend' much after that.
He was a lovely man who'd fled Uganda and he became very active in village life. He was chairmen of the town council/mayor for a long time and when he passed away a few years ago they had to relay the service outside by loud speaker as there were so many people there. There were some people who were wary of him though and his wife's brother never spoke to her again after she married him.
The Poles who'd stuck around after the war weren't different to look at so weren't singled out in the same way.
Yorkshire folk are of course renowned for their tolerance. :-)

I can say this as I'm from Yorkshire. It's allowed. To be honest, I think the only discrimination to be found in Yorkshire is if you don't work very hard...

Which village out of interest? I was near Pateley Bridge (if you know it).
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I was talking to a youngish Swiss lass in our office today, and I made reference to myself as a dirty Auslander (in context, not like, weirdly out of the blue). She laughed, and then, in quite a light tone told me that the Swiss like the British generally, it's the Germans they're not keen on.

Neighbours and all that I suppose. Same everywhere.

It's the same old story isn't it though? Mix and you don't feel unwelcome, don't mingle and......
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Yorkshire folk are of course renowned for their tolerance. :-)

I can say this as I'm from Yorkshire. It's allowed. To be honest, I think the only discrimination to be found in Yorkshire is if you don't work very hard...

Which village out of interest? I was near Pateley Bridge (if you know it).
I know Pately Bridge. I'm from Summer wine country just outside Huddersfield.
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Re: Do you feel unwelcome in Switzerland?

Unwelcome? Not at all. In fact, I was a bit apprehensive initially about rudeness but everyone has been exceptionally warm and helpful.

Loving it.
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I know Pately Bridge. I'm from Summer wine country just outside Huddersfield.
Of course. Your story makes particular sense given the locale.

Also gives me the opportunity to say

"Huddersfield Train Station! Christ on a bike but that's smart".

Ah, this has made me miss home a bit (in a nice way).
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