 | | | 
01.11.2016, 19:20
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Lugano
Posts: 29,611
Groaned at 2,092 Times in 1,561 Posts
Thanked 35,379 Times in 16,775 Posts
| | Re: 9 months in Switzerland - a honest report.
In short, Kedi is JohltaVontra in drag (aka a sock puppet)
Tom
| This user would like to thank st2lemans for this useful post: | | 
01.11.2016, 19:21
|  | RIP | | Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Eglisau
Posts: 7,273
Groaned at 47 Times in 46 Posts
Thanked 14,131 Times in 5,506 Posts
| | Re: 9 months in Switzerland - a honest report. | Quote: | |  | | | I do not watch that sort of nonsense actually. It is for people who have not read English literature and cannot appreciate a higher form of writing, i.e. Charles Dickens, George Eliot etc. | | | | | Oh my, a woman of letters. I am impressed. Did you also read the Greeks? The Russians, perhaps? What of poetry? The Germans?
Neither Dickens, nor Eliot would have used "i.e.". Dickens would have crafted a run on sentence, as he so often did, and was so skilled at, and listed many more examples, without perhaps being exhaustive about it, and Eliot would not have used a phrase such as "such as".
Craft yourself an online personae if you will, but my advice would be twofold: first, endeavour to place the idea in the reader's head indirectly, and second, take whatever measures are reasonable to ensure that most people won't think "Wow, what an idiot!".
__________________
If everyone you know agrees with you consistently, they are either not listening, or not capable of critical thought.
Last edited by JagWaugh; 02.11.2016 at 08:31.
| The following 4 users would like to thank JagWaugh for this useful post: | | 
01.11.2016, 19:22
| | Re: 9 months in Switzerland - a honest report. | Quote: | |  | | | So what is wrong with that? I take it you are not a literature teacher.
Who said I only read Dickens? Downton Abbey does not compete with sci-fi dramas, does it? I only compared it to Dickens because I couldn't compare it to 1984 or Lolita or Moby Dick.
Also as you see I have a lot of nonsense in my life, after all I am here, posting.
Anyway, you are taking the discussion further off-topic. | | | | | Am I not? Damn. All this time...
I didn't say there was anything wrong with it, I took exception to your talk of "Literature". You brought up the canon, not me. And FYI, this discussion has been off topic for about 9 pages.
| This user would like to thank for this useful post: | | 
01.11.2016, 19:22
| Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Zurich
Posts: 832
Groaned at 115 Times in 61 Posts
Thanked 894 Times in 430 Posts
| | Re: 9 months in Switzerland - a honest report. | Quote: |  | | | I do believe Nil had her tongue firmly in her cheek. | | | | | I thought she just said the second part tongue-in-cheek. Otherwise why mention "Enaj and other bitter members (her words, not mind).
I hope she comes back and tells us if it was sarcastic or seriously meant.
What is that interweb forum radar? Is it something like a gaydar? I really do not have that much experience around forum circles.
| This user would like to thank DerDieDas for this useful post: | | 
01.11.2016, 19:23
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Basel
Posts: 10,400
Groaned at 434 Times in 338 Posts
Thanked 16,045 Times in 6,322 Posts
| | Re: 9 months in Switzerland - a honest report. | Quote: | |  | | | Hmm, so there is some truth to what I said. I was once on a new mummy ("mommy" to Americans so I wasn't in ancient Egypt or anything like that ) forum and I noticed this sort of behaviour there. So my comment about ganging up on people via PM was just guesswork. Interesting that it actually happens here as well. But really from the tone of writing it is obvious that there are a couple of different groups going on here. | | | | |  alright now I believe you that my English is crap if you didn't get my sarcasm....
Or it's the other way around! | 
01.11.2016, 19:24
| Forum Legend | | Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: CH
Posts: 9,741
Groaned at 330 Times in 270 Posts
Thanked 14,118 Times in 7,272 Posts
| | Re: 9 months in Switzerland - a honest report. | Quote: | |  | | | Oh my, a woman of letters. I am impressed. Did you also read the Greeks? The Russians, perhaps? What of poetry? The Germans?
Neither Dickens, nor Eliot would have used "i.e.". Dickens would have crafted a run on sentence, as he so often did, and was so skilled at, and listed many more examples, without perhaps being exhaustive about it, and Eliot would have use a phrase such as "such as".
Craft yourself an online personae if you will, but my advice would be twofold: first, endeavour to place the idea in the reader's head indirectly, and second, take whatever measures are reasonable to ensure that most people won't think "Wow, what an idiot!". | | | | | I am guessing she didn't read all those books in English, m'lord. Shitty countries happen to have great translators.
| 
01.11.2016, 19:28
| Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Zurich
Posts: 832
Groaned at 115 Times in 61 Posts
Thanked 894 Times in 430 Posts
| | Re: 9 months in Switzerland - a honest report. | Quote: | |  | | | Dickens would have crafted a run on sentence, as he so often did, and was so skilled at, and listed many more examples, without perhaps being exhaustive about it, and Eliot would have use a phrase such as "such as". | | | | | I am glad we found at least one common interest and agree on one thing. I only read English literature as a hobby so I do not claim to be able to analyze Dickens' style let alone write like him.
Also, you need to be fair, it does not matter if I write "i.e" or not. This isn't exactly a creative writing platform but I see you are still slightly miffed at my (not a little childish) comments about your spelling abilities.
| 
01.11.2016, 19:30
| Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Zurich
Posts: 832
Groaned at 115 Times in 61 Posts
Thanked 894 Times in 430 Posts
| | Re: 9 months in Switzerland - a honest report. | Quote: | |  | | | alright now I believe you that my English is crap if you didn't get my sarcasm.... | | | | | Well I really couldn't believe anyone with an ounce of social grace would bring real people who are not even commenting here into a sarcastic remark. My bad.
| This user groans at DerDieDas for this post: | | 
01.11.2016, 19:31
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Lugano
Posts: 29,611
Groaned at 2,092 Times in 1,561 Posts
Thanked 35,379 Times in 16,775 Posts
| | Re: 9 months in Switzerland - a honest report. | Quote: | |  | | | I am guessing she didn't read all those books in English, m'lord. Shitty countries happen to have great translators. | | | | | Sometimes, but they can also have crap translators.
And I doubt that 'she' is a she.
Tom
| The following 2 users would like to thank st2lemans for this useful post: | | 
01.11.2016, 19:31
|  | RIP | | Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Eglisau
Posts: 7,273
Groaned at 47 Times in 46 Posts
Thanked 14,131 Times in 5,506 Posts
| | Re: 9 months in Switzerland - a honest report. | Quote: | |  | | | I am guessing she didn't read all those books in English, m'lord. Shitty countries happen to have great translators. | | | | | Even in translation, neither Dickens, nor Melville work without long convoluted sentences. With the possible exception of translating Shakespear's 3 levels wrapped up in puns into German (or any other language expunged of multiple meanings), the style of an author can generally be maintained in translation.
Besides.... there is reading, and there is reading, and that makes (has made) all the difference.
| This user would like to thank JagWaugh for this useful post: | | 
01.11.2016, 19:33
| Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Zurich
Posts: 832
Groaned at 115 Times in 61 Posts
Thanked 894 Times in 430 Posts
| | Re: 9 months in Switzerland - a honest report. | Quote: | |  | | | Did you also read the Greeks? The Russians, perhaps? What of poetry? The Germans?
. | | | | | I did read the Russians but not as much as the English. But no Greeks or Germans if you do not count Goethe's Werther and Buddenbrooks. I did read the French though but only translations I am afraid.
You see I can only read 3 languages and only 2 of them to be able to read high literature. We cannot all be like Nil.
| 
01.11.2016, 19:34
|  | modified, reprogrammed and doctored˛ | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: La Cote
Posts: 15,890
Groaned at 339 Times in 234 Posts
Thanked 18,374 Times in 9,550 Posts
| | Re: 9 months in Switzerland - a honest report. | Quote: | |  | | | Sometimes, but they can also have crap translators. 
And I doubt that 'she' is a she. 
Tom | | | | | Who is it?
| 
01.11.2016, 19:34
| | Re: 9 months in Switzerland - a honest report. | Quote: | |  | | |
What is that interweb forum radar? Is it something like a gaydar? I really do not have that much experience around forum circles.
| | | | | Different frequency I believe. I also believe your last sentence.
| This user would like to thank for this useful post: | | 
01.11.2016, 19:37
| Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Zurich
Posts: 832
Groaned at 115 Times in 61 Posts
Thanked 894 Times in 430 Posts
| | Re: 9 months in Switzerland - a honest report. | Quote: | |  | | | Even in translation, neither Dickens, nor Melville work without long convoluted sentences. . | | | | | Well, I actually read all of them in the original. I even read Fanny Burney and Samuel Richardson. Why is that so surprising?
| 
01.11.2016, 19:38
| | Re: 9 months in Switzerland - a honest report.
I read books too!
Aren't I clever!
| The following 5 users would like to thank for this useful post: | | 
01.11.2016, 19:39
| Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Zurich
Posts: 832
Groaned at 115 Times in 61 Posts
Thanked 894 Times in 430 Posts
| | Re: 9 months in Switzerland - a honest report. | Quote: |  | | | I also believe your last sentence. | | | | | Hmm, did you say "mean girls"?
I must agree with another poster. This has turned into a cat fight after your entrance.
| 
01.11.2016, 19:40
| Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Zurich
Posts: 832
Groaned at 115 Times in 61 Posts
Thanked 894 Times in 430 Posts
| | Re: 9 months in Switzerland - a honest report. | Quote: |  | | | I read books too!
Aren't I clever! | | | | | You are clever but are you also rich?
| This user would like to thank DerDieDas for this useful post: | | 
01.11.2016, 19:40
| | Re: 9 months in Switzerland - a honest report. | Quote: | |  | | | Well, I actually read all of them in the original. I even read Fanny Burney and Samuel Richardson. Why is that so surprising? | | | | | Yes but did you have fun reading them? Try Terry Pratchett, all will be well.
| 
01.11.2016, 19:42
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Lugano
Posts: 29,611
Groaned at 2,092 Times in 1,561 Posts
Thanked 35,379 Times in 16,775 Posts
| | Re: 9 months in Switzerland - a honest report. | Quote: | |  | | | You are clever but are you also rich? | | | | | Define 'rich'.
Tom
| This user would like to thank st2lemans for this useful post: | | 
01.11.2016, 19:42
| | Re: 9 months in Switzerland - a honest report. | Quote: | |  | | | You are clever but are you also rich? | | | | | I'm rich in laughter and love.
| The following 4 users would like to thank for this useful post: | |
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | Thread Tools | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT +2. The time now is 23:28. | |