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Old 08.12.2016, 18:37
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Re: 9 months in Switzerland - a honest report.

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Is that like the soggy cracker game?

I want a thread about people being much friendlier in Switzerland than they are in Surrey, UK.
In my experience they are.

When I lived in Surrey I only discovered some time afterwards that my next door neighbour had died when my milkman informed me.
Now they do not have milkmen anymore I wonder how news gets around
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Re: 9 months in Switzerland - a honest report.

Rule N 997: Kill the ennemy by posting information longer than the Great Wall of China, in order to create physical implosion for the weak reader



It almost worked, luckily I skipped the 2nd and 3rd post and avoid terrible tragedy.
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Old 08.12.2016, 18:42
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Re: 9 months in Switzerland - a honest report.

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Ready copy and pasting?
Whatever it is it's a complete waste of time. Does s/he really think anyone is going to bother to read all that?
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Old 08.12.2016, 18:47
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Re: 9 months in Switzerland - a honest report.

How dare you to actually use this forum for your ugly anti-Russian propaganda?? I am Russian and I have never ever never ever seen a child being beaten by his parents in public! Moreover child-beating is absolutely extremely rare in our countries (I mean RU, Belarus, Ukraine, etc). Moreover I have to tell you, I have seen quite many swiss women being very unpatient with the children, agressively unpatient, beating on their hands, pushing children back into their chairs, etc. including the day-care facilities employees. Hence they grow up many psychologically ill children in this country. The result is a sick population that likes to stare. It happened to my kid a few times already to be attacked by a swiss mom. This swiss staring is to me also like an expression of this hidden agression, or depression that swiss people carry in them.. I just saw it in 20 Min today and was curious to see what people think, then I see you writing this crap... Sorry, you are a liar.
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Re: 9 months in Switzerland - a honest report.

oops. I deleted the quote. My reply was to Ariaz and alikes for his ugly anti-russian propaganda..
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Re: 9 months in Switzerland - a honest report.

This thread just keeps on giving!
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Old 08.12.2016, 19:07
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Re: 9 months in Switzerland - a honest report.

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sorry, just came across an article in 20min... And this is not the only thread about same old issue right..
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Old 08.12.2016, 19:16
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To anyone who cares, here is an exhaustive guide to the odd behavior you see on this forum.
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Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation

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you'd be better off by now, if you invested half of the time you wasted on those posts in genuinely understanding swiss culture. Here is another free advice: pessimists discover every day that the world is not perfect, optimist just know it.
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Old 08.12.2016, 19:20
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Whatever it is it's a complete waste of time. Does s/he really think anyone is going to bother to read all that?
Luckily this is internet, I scrolled past it having a laugh. As us nasty Swiss say, this is one "who likes to hear herself talk" in RL.

But how do you all know it's a she?
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Old 08.12.2016, 19:50
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Hm... I wonder why the Swiss have a reputation for being cold and unwelcoming.....

Because Julia Andres is English and we hate the song edelweiss
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Old 08.12.2016, 21:04
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But how do you all know it's a she?
I thought it was a he actually, I just wrote s/he to be on the safe side in case it was a she.
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Old 08.12.2016, 21:39
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Sorry for not having the "right" opinion, but honestly, let newcomers vent in peace.
It's not a right or wrong opinion. You just have a writing style that fizzes with tension. I'm all rainbows, fairy dust and puppy dogs...but underneath, I haven't punched anyone since 1988 so god help whoever is next. Thankfully, Swiss people rank very low on my punchability scale, and I've only been tempted 4 times in the last year (none of whom were Swiss).

My Swiss friends and neighbours are incredibly generous, thoughtful and considerate. Three times I've had a box of chocolates left on my doorstep by different Swiss friends as a 'thank you'. It's my Swiss neighbours who we had weekly bbqs with in summer, and stayed up til 3 and 4am playing rock music and having a good laugh. Strangely, my friends and neighbours in the UK are quite similar to my Swiss ones.

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optimist just know it.
Eternal optimist here, but I hide it well
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Old 08.12.2016, 22:40
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Is that like the soggy cracker game?

I want a thread about people being much friendlier in Switzerland than they are in Surrey, UK.
Still waiting
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Old 08.12.2016, 22:45
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It's not a right or wrong opinion. You just have a writing style that fizzes with tension.
So what? There's a lot more aggressiveness here than the one coming from newbies, I'd say. To each, their own.
But I personally think most of them have a wrong/"idealistic" idea about an expat forum. (not talking about OP as he was obviously trolling big time)

Edit: oh yeah, too bad some pearls of wisdom are often lost in all these fights. These posts are really good, maybe some newbies who complain about Switzerland should read them more carefully.
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Many people have it one way, they like it that way, and cannot consider or accept it any other way. Some would consider it pride, and best practices, others would consider it arrogant and short sighted.


In the end, perhaps not very aligned with the modern/multicultural/globalized/politically correct world, but it seems to work very well here so it will probably continue.
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I wanted the anecdotal story to convey that constructive criticism or conflict can be ok. When there is a problem, it's good to bring it up, and all parties should try to resolve it . That's how things, ideas, people become better.

If the problem can not be resolved for whatever reason, for example one side refuses to admit they've done anything wrong, then a good alternative is to change one's own thoughts, actions, or behavior. However, it's not always easy to shift your opinions, feelings, or behavior.

There is a Japanese saying, 'Shouganai' that means "it cannot be helped" or "nothing can be done about it" or " what can you do about it ".

Sometimes in life you just have to say Shouganai, let go of stress, and be happy.
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Old 09.12.2016, 21:05
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Re: 9 months in Switzerland - a honest report.

I was beginning to think every forum legend / veteran and similar glitter sticker holders all had same views: almost a common agenda to sing praises of this xenophobic country and constantly preach any 'deviants' to 'integrate' Writing anything here on EF felt like going to SVP events. However, it was refreshing to read some unexpected balanced opinions particularly on page 44.

Immigration is often compared to visiting someone else's home as a guest. While the guest always needs to keep in mind that things will be different here, if a guest is uncomfortable for any reason, the host too needs make reasonable effort to alleviate the discomfort; not tell him to go back to your own land.
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Old 09.12.2016, 21:13
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Immigration is often compared to visiting someone else's home as a guest. While the guest always needs to keep in mind that things will be different here, if a guest is uncomfortable for any reason, the host too needs make reasonable effort to alleviate the discomfort;
Why? This is not a house visit where you invite people. Sorry to be so blunt but I came here by my own choice
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Immigration is often compared to visiting someone else's home as a guest. While the guest always needs to keep in mind that things will be different here, if a guest is uncomfortable for any reason, the host too needs make reasonable effort to alleviate the discomfort; not tell him to go back to your own land.
Depends how big a dickhead the guest is. Also, whether the guest was invited by the host or the squatters in the cellar.
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Old 09.12.2016, 22:30
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I was beginning to think every forum legend / veteran and similar glitter sticker holders all had same views: almost a common agenda to sing praises of this xenophobic country and constantly preach any 'deviants' to 'integrate' Writing anything here on EF felt like going to SVP events. However, it was refreshing to read some unexpected balanced opinions particularly on page 44.
Serious question now... Is there any other country in the Western World where 25% of the population are immigrants? There are towns in my part of the UK where people complain about feeling "swamped with foreigners" if there are half a dozen immigrant families in a town of 80,000 people.

Many years ago, I rented a flat close to my workplace in my home town. For 8yrs, I was an outcast amongst 90% of the neighbours. I didn't know why at first, but was soon told that the small housing estate I'd moved to was mainly inhabited by 4 families and their extended relatives. For 8yrs, I had "You shouldn't be here. You're not one of us." "Our Susan applied for that flat and should have got it over you." That was in my home town, approximately 3 miles from where I was born.

I've lived in banjo country. I've lived in a couple of places that were like a Jeremy Kyle wet dream. Compared to those places, Switzerland is bloody luxury! And if you think Swiss people are xenophobic, can I kindly suggest you spend a long weekend in a place called Padiham, Lancashire or Penmaenmawr in North Wales to get some perspective. In Penmaenmawr, they deliberately change language when you walk in the pub or shop. That's true xenophobia.
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Re: 9 months in Switzerland - a honest report.

Great post, Blueangel - and I come from a very similar kind of place - with the exception of the bit about Wales: regardless of context, Welsh people are totally entitled to speak their own language in their own country, especially given the shit they've had to put up with over the last several centuries for daring to do exactly that.

Otherwise, well said.
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Old 09.12.2016, 22:48
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Thanks. It was my housemate back in the late 80's, Penmaenmawr born and bred, who told me. Her friends all laughed about it when they came to stay.
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