Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Living in Switzerland > Complaints corner  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #81  
Old 03.01.2017, 00:49
Tilia's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: ZH
Posts: 2,724
Groaned at 79 Times in 43 Posts
Thanked 2,566 Times in 1,161 Posts
Tilia has a reputation beyond reputeTilia has a reputation beyond reputeTilia has a reputation beyond reputeTilia has a reputation beyond reputeTilia has a reputation beyond reputeTilia has a reputation beyond repute
Re: How to deal with difficult co-worker

How is your r German? If she is Swiss, maybe she just dislikes you because you are a foreigner that still hasnt learned German.

Or as I said before, often cases like this stem from how female perceive that older men talk incorrectly to/about women.


Quote:
View Post
Thanks again.. I can rule out the jealously part because I might have taken a position she wanted.. my job requires English as mother language - she is native Swiss with mediocre English skills, plus I work for a tech company, and she has no technical background (I have a BS in engineering). She is literally an office administrator, answering the phone, generating invoices, managing the CRM. I will know more soon... I can't see ignoring her forever as a viable solution. Anyway, we have the company ski weekend in 2 weeks... she will be there, lots of booze...
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Tilia for this useful post:
  #82  
Old 03.01.2017, 01:20
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Küsnacht, Switzerland
Posts: 3,944
Groaned at 81 Times in 76 Posts
Thanked 7,732 Times in 3,610 Posts
Blueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond repute
Re: How to deal with difficult co-worker

By pure coincidence, a friend / former colleague in Michigan posted this on fb tonight
Attached Thumbnails
how-deal-difficult-co-worker-workplace.jpg  
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Blueangel for this useful post:
  #83  
Old 03.01.2017, 09:07
bigblue2's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Glarus
Posts: 7,905
Groaned at 476 Times in 398 Posts
Thanked 13,689 Times in 5,451 Posts
bigblue2 has a reputation beyond reputebigblue2 has a reputation beyond reputebigblue2 has a reputation beyond reputebigblue2 has a reputation beyond reputebigblue2 has a reputation beyond reputebigblue2 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: How to deal with difficult co-worker

Quote:
View Post
Ha ha ha.

Crashed and burned. The heros answer to the problem. Be a man. Intimidate her. Yeah.

Wow you are really a tough person.

If you do that your situation will go from bad to worse.

What to do?

Get yourself a protector. Or become a slave to the woman. Or quit. Those are your only choices.

Man up. Really. Have you ever worked in an office?

???? did you read my post in your angry voice?

Intimidate her?? where did I say that??? I said ask her whats wrong, plain, simple, problem solved in a couple of seconds.

Yes, I've worked in offices for what now, ermm 30 years nearly, and yes the few times workmates have had issues with me I've asked them outright whats up, and you know what, the issue went away there and then, an explanation, an apology (maybe) and job done.

Get yourself a protector ?? wtf are people on???? that's it, GANG up on someone because you think they have an issue with you, it could be something totally stupid like you left an unwashed mug in the kitchen, but hey, get your gang together and take the bitch out

seriously, I wonder about the sanity of some of the people on here, I'd really not like to work with some of you.
Reply With Quote
The following 13 users would like to thank bigblue2 for this useful post:
  #84  
Old 03.01.2017, 13:33
Karl's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Here
Posts: 1,861
Groaned at 174 Times in 78 Posts
Thanked 2,721 Times in 882 Posts
Karl has a reputation beyond reputeKarl has a reputation beyond reputeKarl has a reputation beyond reputeKarl has a reputation beyond reputeKarl has a reputation beyond reputeKarl has a reputation beyond repute
Re: How to deal with difficult co-worker

Quote:
View Post
How is your r German? If she is Swiss, maybe she just dislikes you because you are a foreigner that still hasnt learned German.

Or as I said before, often cases like this stem from how female perceive that older men talk incorrectly to/about women.

My high German is fluent. Dialect... not so much. I don't speak Swiss German, but understand most of it. She makes a point of speaking it with everyone though, it automatically shuts me out (I can listen but not participate). On the other hand, this is Switzerland and it's their native language so I don't have much of a leg to stand on.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Karl for this useful post:
  #85  
Old 03.01.2017, 14:01
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Küsnacht, Switzerland
Posts: 3,944
Groaned at 81 Times in 76 Posts
Thanked 7,732 Times in 3,610 Posts
Blueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond repute
Re: How to deal with difficult co-worker

Quote:
View Post
She makes a point of speaking it with everyone though, it automatically shuts me out (I can listen but not participate).
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Swiss German people I know say they learn high German from about 5yrs old, so if you understand what this person is saying in Swiss German, there should be nothing to stop you answering, and being understood, in high German.

Just saying because my OH's family are bi-lingual, whilst my OH and his brothers are tri-lingual. When the brothers are talking amongst themselves, they often use all three languages in one conversation, so perhaps you're colleagues could include you in a conversation in the same manner.
Reply With Quote
The following 5 users would like to thank Blueangel for this useful post:
  #86  
Old 03.01.2017, 14:58
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Ostschweiz
Posts: 7,463
Groaned at 248 Times in 211 Posts
Thanked 8,986 Times in 4,706 Posts
Urs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond repute
Re: How to deal with difficult co-worker

Quote:
View Post
My high German is fluent. Dialect... not so much. I don't speak Swiss German, but understand most of it. She makes a point of speaking it with everyone though, it automatically shuts me out (I can listen but not participate). On the other hand, this is Switzerland and it's their native language so I don't have much of a leg to stand on.
Yes you could easily be singled out by not using dialict, but that would apply even if you did. In fact what you describe is the standard situation. So why do you think it shuts you out?
Reply With Quote
  #87  
Old 03.01.2017, 15:10
curley's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: canton ZH
Posts: 9,234
Groaned at 131 Times in 112 Posts
Thanked 9,886 Times in 5,271 Posts
curley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond repute
Re: How to deal with difficult co-worker

Quote:
View Post
My high German is fluent. Dialect... not so much. I don't speak Swiss German, but understand most of it. She makes a point of speaking it with everyone though, it automatically shuts me out (I can listen but not participate). On the other hand, this is Switzerland and it's their native language so I don't have much of a leg to stand on.
posted 13.33h ..... are you still on holidays? Maybe she doesn't like you hangig out on EF during work hours .....
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank curley for this useful post:
  #88  
Old 03.01.2017, 16:00
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Zurich
Posts: 11,620
Groaned at 654 Times in 479 Posts
Thanked 15,522 Times in 6,092 Posts
Chuff has a reputation beyond reputeChuff has a reputation beyond reputeChuff has a reputation beyond reputeChuff has a reputation beyond reputeChuff has a reputation beyond reputeChuff has a reputation beyond repute
Re: How to deal with difficult co-worker

Quote:
View Post
posted 13.33h ..... are you still on holidays? Maybe she doesn't like you hangig out on EF during work hours .....
...maybe she's on EF and knows his username.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Chuff for this useful post:
  #89  
Old 03.01.2017, 16:13
curley's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: canton ZH
Posts: 9,234
Groaned at 131 Times in 112 Posts
Thanked 9,886 Times in 5,271 Posts
curley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond repute
Re: How to deal with difficult co-worker

Quote:
View Post
...maybe she's on EF and knows his username.
That might solve the problem all together
Reply With Quote
  #90  
Old 03.01.2017, 16:15
Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Zug
Posts: 181
Groaned at 14 Times in 10 Posts
Thanked 87 Times in 52 Posts
mike_n has annoyed a few people around heremike_n has annoyed a few people around here
Re: How to deal with difficult co-worker

Quote:
View Post

For my actual duties, I have very little to do with her as she has a basic admin function.

I had this situation many times and I think you don't have an issue. There will be always people who don't like me. So what?

Someone doesn't greet? Set the ignore bit to True. Next time just don't greet and pretend she doesn't exist.

A bigger issue would be if you have a lot to do with her. You cannot simply ignore the situation and you have to something. In this case the common wisdom of being nice usually doesn't help. Gather intelligence and see how you can get back to her. "you can get much further with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone"
Reply With Quote
The following 5 users would like to thank mike_n for this useful post:
  #91  
Old 03.01.2017, 16:26
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Küsnacht, Switzerland
Posts: 3,944
Groaned at 81 Times in 76 Posts
Thanked 7,732 Times in 3,610 Posts
Blueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond repute
Re: How to deal with difficult co-worker

Quote:
View Post
Someone doesn't greet? Set the ignore bit to True. Next time just don't greet and pretend she doesn't exist.
...and always remember that the minute you walk out of the door, she don't exist.

Problems outside of work should be left at the front door of your workplace, and workplace clashes of personality should be left behind when you walk out of the door. Sometimes it's very difficult to do, but you'll be a lot happier in yourself when you make that division.
Reply With Quote
The following 7 users would like to thank Blueangel for this useful post:
  #92  
Old 03.01.2017, 16:35
Dougal's Breakfast's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Ostschweiz
Posts: 17,851
Groaned at 1,115 Times in 867 Posts
Thanked 48,137 Times in 14,849 Posts
Dougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond reputeDougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond reputeDougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond reputeDougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond reputeDougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond reputeDougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond repute
Re: How to deal with difficult co-worker

Quote:
View Post
...and always remember that the minute you walk out of the door, she don't exist.

Problems outside of work should be left at the front door of your workplace, and workplace clashes of personality should be left behind when you walk out of the door. Sometimes it's very difficult to do, but you'll be a lot happier in yourself when you make that division.
Very true. And if you find it difficult, it's helpful to have an actual physical marker after which you are no longer at work: a railway tunnel, a bridge over a river, a particular station... whatever.

I used to have a very emotionally challenging job and I found that it used to eat me up day and night to the extent that it was actually affecting the quality of my work. I sought advice and this is exactly what I was advised to do. I've tried to do it ever since (in fact, it's one of the reasons I live so far away from where I work) and it isn't always 100% effective, but it still serves as a helpful reminder.
Reply With Quote
The following 4 users would like to thank Dougal's Breakfast for this useful post:
  #93  
Old 03.01.2017, 16:36
audiodruid's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Dicken, St Gallen
Posts: 216
Groaned at 4 Times in 1 Post
Thanked 143 Times in 59 Posts
audiodruid has earned the respect of manyaudiodruid has earned the respect of manyaudiodruid has earned the respect of many
Re: How to deal with difficult co-worker

Quote:
View Post
My high German is fluent. Dialect... not so much. I don't speak Swiss German, but understand most of it. She makes a point of speaking it with everyone though, it automatically shuts me out (I can listen but not participate). On the other hand, this is Switzerland and it's their native language so I don't have much of a leg to stand on.
Native Language?
No thats Rätoromanish ..isn't it?
Theres as much Italian & French here, Swiss German isn't a language it's a dialect.

If you understand the dialect just give em German back or learn some handy Dialect phrases ( i'm sure people here will help you out ) in particular then make sure to use them in all the wrong places and meanings just to make the point.

Last edited by audiodruid; 03.01.2017 at 16:38. Reason: missed out the word WRONG ....
Reply With Quote
  #94  
Old 03.01.2017, 16:40
Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Zug
Posts: 181
Groaned at 14 Times in 10 Posts
Thanked 87 Times in 52 Posts
mike_n has annoyed a few people around heremike_n has annoyed a few people around here
Re: How to deal with difficult co-worker

Quote:
View Post
...and always remember that the minute you walk out of the door, she don't exist.

Problems outside of work should be left at the front door of your workplace, and workplace clashes of personality should be left behind when you walk out of the door. Sometimes it's very difficult to do, but you'll be a lot happier in yourself when you make that division.
Additionally, you'll probably move to a new job in a couple of months or years. And put everything behind you. Why bother so much?
Reply With Quote
  #95  
Old 03.01.2017, 16:46
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Küsnacht, Switzerland
Posts: 3,944
Groaned at 81 Times in 76 Posts
Thanked 7,732 Times in 3,610 Posts
Blueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond repute
Re: How to deal with difficult co-worker

Quote:
View Post
Very true. And if you find it difficult, it's helpful to have an actual physical marker after which you are no longer at work: a railway tunnel, a bridge over a river, a particular station... whatever.
100% agree! Jct 14 of the M25, Manchester Piccadilly station, etc...and breathe
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Blueangel for this useful post:
  #96  
Old 03.01.2017, 19:30
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Albisrieden
Posts: 4,621
Groaned at 101 Times in 70 Posts
Thanked 6,690 Times in 2,497 Posts
nickatbasel has a reputation beyond reputenickatbasel has a reputation beyond reputenickatbasel has a reputation beyond reputenickatbasel has a reputation beyond reputenickatbasel has a reputation beyond reputenickatbasel has a reputation beyond repute
Re: How to deal with difficult co-worker

And as Mike Harding once said, if someone is giving you grief, you need to picture what they look like sitting on the lav with their trolleys around their ankles. You'll never take them seriously again after that.

Quote:
View Post
Very true. And if you find it difficult, it's helpful to have an actual physical marker after which you are no longer at work: a railway tunnel, a bridge over a river, a particular station... whatever.

I used to have a very emotionally challenging job and I found that it used to eat me up day and night to the extent that it was actually affecting the quality of my work. I sought advice and this is exactly what I was advised to do. I've tried to do it ever since (in fact, it's one of the reasons I live so far away from where I work) and it isn't always 100% effective, but it still serves as a helpful reminder.
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank nickatbasel for this useful post:
  #97  
Old 03.01.2017, 19:35
curley's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: canton ZH
Posts: 9,234
Groaned at 131 Times in 112 Posts
Thanked 9,886 Times in 5,271 Posts
curley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond repute
Re: How to deal with difficult co-worker

Quote:
View Post
And as Mike Harding once said, if someone is giving you grief, you need to picture what they look like sitting on the lav with their trolleys around their ankles. You'll never take them seriously again after that.
That can cause you nightmares, beware.
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank curley for this useful post:
  #98  
Old 04.01.2017, 10:20
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CH
Posts: 7,971
Groaned at 258 Times in 209 Posts
Thanked 10,116 Times in 5,418 Posts
greenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond repute
Re: How to deal with difficult co-worker

Quote:
View Post
My high German is fluent. Dialect... not so much. I don't speak Swiss German, but understand most of it. She makes a point of speaking it with everyone though, it automatically shuts me out (I can listen but not participate). On the other hand, this is Switzerland and it's their native language so I don't have much of a leg to stand on.
Try to speak with her in High German and see what happens. She'll come around.. If this sort of situations scare/unsettle you I don't know what to say..
Reply With Quote
  #99  
Old 05.01.2017, 15:37
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Basel
Posts: 49
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 42 Times in 19 Posts
London2010 has earned some respectLondon2010 has earned some respect
Re: How to deal with difficult co-worker

Sometimes people hold on to things for way too long. i can smypathize with you not easy being around negative fibes.

best way to cope is to be yourself around her act normal and radiant positive vibes. Always be professional with her and try doing subtle nice things for her cause believe it or not that will make you feel better. but i wouldnt go out of my way and invite her to lunch, but i would hold the door or elevator for her for example.

we cant control other peoples reactions but only ours. so make sure that you are smiling, talking with other coworkers and going to work social events.

you need to have the attitude of not everyone is going to like me, but I am not here to win a popularity contest.

you seem like a nice guy wanting to resolve it and give her a chance to like you, but let it go my friend, your just not her cup of tea, but again go back to my advice...you dont give a shit what she thinks

all the best
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank London2010 for this useful post:
  #100  
Old 06.01.2017, 04:12
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Zurich
Posts: 693
Groaned at 14 Times in 10 Posts
Thanked 538 Times in 281 Posts
tooki has an excellent reputationtooki has an excellent reputationtooki has an excellent reputationtooki has an excellent reputation
Re: How to deal with difficult co-worker

Quote:
View Post
… Swiss German isn't a language it's a dialect.
...
It's colloquially called a dialect, but from a linguistic standpoint Swiss German easily meets the basic criteria for being considered a distinct language. (Linguistics is one of the things I studied.)
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank tooki for this useful post:
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How to deal with a Blackbird's nest? Slaphead Daily life 28 28.04.2015 09:51
How difficult it is to get apartment in Zurich, with PhD salary? Leonidas05 Housing in general 18 03.06.2013 12:53
How to deal with a complaining neighbour? i_like_turtles Housing in general 18 28.04.2011 16:17
how to deal with Gerance Anthony1406 Housing in general 4 16.03.2010 23:08
How to deal with telemarketers AbFab Jokes/funnies 4 30.10.2006 01:23


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 03:06.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0