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Indecent Behaviour, by Drunk men in Zurich.

It’s hard to say on what exactly happened but, my friend had very bad time today at two main locations of Zurich, Hauft Banhof and oerlikon by drunk men who behaved indecently towards her.
And the surprising part is that an incident like this happened in the world’s best place, Zurich . Though, we consider that there was a foot ball match going on and people were enjoying it, it should not be at the cost of hurting someone.

Is there anything which we could have done, Other than leaving that place, as we hadn’t had a chance to even react to that situation? I felt pretty bad, about my friend who had this bad experience.
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Old 21.06.2008, 01:07
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Re: Indecent Behaviour, by Drunk men in Zurich.

If it got physical, report to the police. If they just shouted inappropriate things... well, remember they were drunk.

It's no excuse, but I guess that's the best you can do.

P.S.: Alcohol is intoxicating here just as much as anywhere else...
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Re: Indecent Behaviour, by Drunk men in Zurich.

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If the idiots were from outside Switzerland then it's not fair to blame the city for it. Police can't be everywhere during the Euro. If something was done physically then report it to the police. You have not explained what happened. If a drunk says something verbally then just try to ignore them and move away (if possible). I am sorry for what happened to you and your friend. Some men are just low life scum.
P.S- I personally would not let my wife go out alone during the Euro period specially at night time.

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Re: Indecent Behaviour, by Drunk men in Zurich.

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Yeah, I know what you mean. If I were you I might worry a bit too. Some of those Dutch boys are H-O-T.
Fortunately I'm not married so can stroll the Limmatquai at will.

Sorry to hear your friend had some trouble, Sid. Here's hoping there won't be a next time - but if there is, and if her accoster is Swiss (see malmostoso's remarks on the universality of alcohol) "Hau ab!" is a good phrase to know. I learned that one 'specially for the Euro.
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Re: Indecent Behaviour, by Drunk men in Zurich.

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It’s hard to say on what exactly happened <snip>
Is there anything which we could have done, <snip>
Sid.
Are you asking for advice on a situation you've disclosed jack **** about?

Is it anything I could have done? Something happened to me tonight.

Please advise.

Duh.
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Re: Indecent Behaviour, by Drunk men in Zurich.

Ze, I certainly don't include all the men from Zurich, as the people were nice and helpful many times and this was something different. So, thought would share with you guys.

Duh, I just wanted to know, if I could have done something else, other than just walking away from there.

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Re: Indecent Behaviour, by Drunk men in Zurich.

But what actually happened. there are drunken fools the world over. It is a universal problem - except in Saudi and it probably happens there too
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Old 21.06.2008, 09:52
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Re: Indecent Behaviour, by Drunk men in Zurich.

sid could you please describe the scenario in a bit more detail. It's impossible to give any concrete feedback with the info you've given.
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Re: Indecent Behaviour, by Drunk men in Zurich.

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P.S- I personally would not let my wife go out alone during the Euro period specially at night time.
Does she have no say in the matter!? Drunkeness can be a problem anywhere in Europe. Normally here it's less of a problem certainly than in the UK. It's a real social problem over there.
But, football, alcohol and loutish behaviour go hand in hand in any European country. If you feel uncomfortable the best you can do is get out of the situation you're in and try to go somewhere away from the drunks.
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Re: Indecent Behaviour, by Drunk men in Zurich.

Sid, without wanting to know the details of what happened.... here comes my two cents worth.

Such occurrences are not uncommon to Zürich (the Euro is NOT an excuse).

More than one of my female colleagues at work have been accosted to some extent or another on evenings out. Inevitably these events have involved inebriated individuals.

Although i would not do it myself, my advice is to just walk away. Getting involved in fisticuffs will lead to many convoluted problems with the coppers. Reporting such events to the coppers will only help if they are within the vicinity and you can identify the individuals in question.

I find going out in a large group of friends seems to provide some sort of deterrent to these things happening.
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Re: Indecent Behaviour, by Drunk men in Zurich.

To be honest I wouldn't offer advice based on no information about the incident. As Shorrick pointed out so eloquently. It is damaging speculation (for the city) and a waste of time.

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Does she have no say in the matter!?
She is chained to the kitchen sink after 5pm (winter time). Chain is long enough to allow free movement inside the flat Is that good enough?

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Yeah, I know what you mean. If I were you I might worry a bit too. Some of those Dutch boys are H-O-T.
Cheeky! Glad the Dutch are out then. Anyway what makes you think that I am not HOT in my own un-HOT way?
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Old 24.06.2008, 10:17
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Re: Indecent Behaviour, by Drunk men in Zurich.

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She is chained to the kitchen sink after 5pm (winter time). Chain is long enough to allow free movement inside the flat Is that good enough?
Hmmm that is not a great solution, as your downstairs neighbor could complain because of the clanging of the chain.
I'd suggest one of these:



See how this goes well with the most sophisticated shoe... perfect for the modern woman!
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Old 24.06.2008, 10:49
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Re: Indecent Behaviour, by Drunk men in Zurich.

"Maybe it has something to do with the football match going on"?

There is a slight possibility that it has something to do with this, yes .

The town is full of males getting sloshed every night, all with different intepretations of what constitutes a good time.

As we have little information, might I suggest that if you and your friend are easily offended, then it is not an appropriate time to be hanging around HB berfore, during, or after a match?
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Re: Indecent Behaviour, by Drunk men in Zurich.

Odd that the original poster hasn't returned to supply details
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Re: Indecent Behaviour, by Drunk men in Zurich.

Like others said, there are too little details to give a meaningful answer. Where did what happen, and how many people were around? Was the confrontation a matter of seconds or minutes?

For this general description I can only give a general advice: Walking away has rarely hurt people.


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The OP has come back but I wouldn't call the answer "supplying details"...
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She is chained to the kitchen sink after 5pm (winter time). Chain is long enough to allow free movement inside the flat Is that good enough?

Cheeky! Glad the Dutch are out then. Anyway what makes you think that I am not HOT in my own un-HOT way?
Devil, you're hot but in a different way!
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P.S- I personally would not let my wife go out alone during the Euro period specially at night time.
1) This thread is pointless without details.

2) I've managed to travel between Oerlikon and the HB pretty much every night of the Eurocup all by my lonesome sometimes and not had any problems. Yeah, I've been approached and chatted up but nothing a little bit of not interested didn't solve.

3) There are literally 10's of thousands of people from all over Europe in Zurich so blaming the city makes no sense.

4) I'm really glad I'm not married to ze Devil's advocate.
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Ze, I certainly don't include all the men from Zurich, as the people were nice and helpful many times and this was something different. So, thought would share with you guys.

Duh, I just wanted to know, if I could have done something else, other than just walking away from there.

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Re: Indecent Behaviour, by Drunk men in Zurich.

Damn some people take stuff literally

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2) I've managed to travel between Oerlikon and the HB pretty much every night of the Eurocup all by my lonesome sometimes and not had any problems. Yeah, I've been approached and chatted up but nothing a little bit of not interested didn't solve.
Good for you but given the choice my wife prefers if I pick her up from areas that might be quiet at night or infested with super drunk people. My wife is not replaceable for me so I take her safety and requests seriously. Btw traveling between Oerlikon and HB is hardly what I would class as typical sexual assault territory.

Luckily the Euro championship have been relatively peaceful but when **** hits the fan things can get out of hand very fast in terms of violence or police charge. My wife hates going to city on weekends due to the crowds let alone on Euro day. What I meant by "I personally would not let my wife go out alone during the Euro period specially at night time" was that if my wife had to go to city out of necessity (as for pleasure she herself would not go near Euro cup area) then I would try my best to accompany her. It's called love and caring for your partner. Most importantly we appreciate each others company so any extra time together is time well spent. End of discussion mum

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3) There are literally 10's of thousands of people from all over Europe in Zurich so blaming the city makes no sense.
When did I blame the city? I did the opposite.

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