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Old 04.06.2019, 20:32
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Re: Bye bye Billag [Welcome our new overlord Serafe]

A friend of mine hasn't gotten any letters from Serafe. After binning the first few letters from Billag, years ago, he hasn't heard anything since.
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Re: Bye bye Billag [Welcome our new overlord Serafe]

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On our invoice it is written, jointly and severally liable with 2 of our neighbours names
Does it mean that I have to pay the full amount of my invoice or is it shared between the neighbours ?
Or it only means that if I dont pay they will go after my neighbours ?


But why my poor neighbours ?


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If you live in premises separate from your neighbours (as is usual!), it's most probably a cock-up, probably by your local Gemeinde/commune from whom Serafe get their billing information. The best course of action is to call Serafe and give them the correct details. You will then receive your own invoice.
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To make your point:
Mark the names and write "Nachbarn" (neighbours) on the bill, return the bill to Serafe (keep a copy of what you're sending).

As you no longer will have a bill they will solve the problem at an impressive speed

..and if you just pay the bill as it is, will they let all of you (including the neighbors) alone?
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Re: Bye bye Billag [Welcome our new overlord Serafe]

Do you know if it's planned by SRF to close Serafe in the next years and start charging directly by Tax?


In my case I am opting out at the end of the year because I cancelled my internet contracts 3 months ago, I don't have TV, radio, tablet, computer or smarphone. And when I want to check something online I use my girlfriends laptop (it's by her) or at work in the pause.

I have to say that my life has changed dramatically without internet. I sleep much better and have more energy. I have started playing my piano again and I feel like more awake in my head. I cannot explain but it feels just great.

I hope it's not aproblem for Serafe having electronic keyboards (piano workstation) and a big HIFI equipment (no radio, no internet connectivity), isn't it?

Last question: Are Ebook-Readers allowed? It has wifi....
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Old 02.08.2019, 15:45
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Re: Bye bye Billag [Welcome our new overlord Serafe]

For device categories, see:

https://www.serafe.ch/en/exemption-f...or-television/
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Old 02.08.2019, 16:15
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Re: Bye bye Billag [Welcome our new overlord Serafe]

The SWISS were so dumb that they voted to continue paying for this shit. More money than sense the SWISS! They get off on giving their money away for senseless things!
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Old 02.08.2019, 16:29
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The SWISS were so dumb that they voted to continue paying for this shit. More money than sense the SWISS! They get off on giving their money away for senseless things!
Sorry to hear you're having a bad day. Please go out and get some fresh air and sunshine, it's a beautiful day!
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Old 02.08.2019, 16:37
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Sorry to hear you're having a bad day. Please go out and get some fresh air and sunshine, it's a beautiful day!
Well actually I just got back. From IKea! Maybe that explains it!
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Re: Bye bye Billag [Welcome our new overlord Serafe]

We mostly watch Swiss TV, the rest is crap.

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Re: Bye bye Billag [Welcome our new overlord Serafe]

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The SWISS were so dumb that they voted to continue paying for this shit. More money than sense the SWISS! They get off on giving their money away for senseless things!
That's why Swiss people don't matter paying +3x what a dentist in Germany costs and why Swiss people take so much drugs.... I know that this is not political correct but it's the truth.
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Old 02.08.2019, 18:13
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why Swiss people take so much drugs.... I know that this is not political correct but it's the truth.
Really? where do you hang out all the time?
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Re: Bye bye Billag [Welcome our new overlord Serafe]

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No, as everybody has to pay.
Wrong! Many people are still exempt.
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Re: Bye bye Billag [Welcome our new overlord Serafe]

Does anyone know did the switch away from Billag have anything to do with the Champions League coverage being cut from Tues & Weds to Weds only?
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Does anyone know did the switch away from Billag have anything to do with the Champions League coverage being cut from Tues & Weds to Weds only?
No connection.
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Old 03.12.2019, 11:41
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Re: Bye bye Billag [Welcome our new overlord Serafe]

I've moved in my new house in February and still haven't received the Serafe bill to pay.

I called them and the lady told me - quite surprised - "But Mr. haven't you heard the news? We have/the Communes have made a mess and a lot of people like you are not receiving the bill because they are registered at the wrong address". (I read "20 minutes" every morning on the bus and never read anything about this)

So basically according to Serafe in my apartment instead of me and my wife other people live there and they have already paid Serafe (nice by them). They are not the previous inhabitants of the house and, after a check on the letterboxes, not even living in the building.

The solution the lady suggested was to contact the Commune and ask them to communicate to Serafe that I'm living in that apartment. Being in Geneva (Canton), my Commune told me that here all this stuff is managed at cantonal-level so I had to contact the OCPM.

They had a form on their site and an email address to send it to to rectify who lives where specifically for the TV License.

I sent this out a month ago and no reply from the OCPM, I do really would like to avoid to go there as the queue is always annoyingly long.

Today I wrote them to ask for updates, then maybe I will try to call Serafe to check if the thing has been solved and the canton never notified me (sometimes they do).

I would really hope Serafe doesn't make me pay some fine/late fee as I'm doing everything they said to fix this issue considering that their website states that - in theory - people should not worry about this as they should automatically send you the bills.

Anyone else had this issue?
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Old 03.12.2019, 12:10
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Re: Bye bye Billag [Welcome our new overlord Serafe]

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Anyone else had this issue?
If I had, I would lean back in my chair and wait for the bill. Sooner or later it always arrives.

As with the new system, every household has to pay, obviously nobody has to register with Serafe anymore - as one had to with Billag. No bill, no debt, no blame, no fine.

One day the list of the commune will be correct and have you on it (probably even with "arrived at xx date) and that's when you get your eagerly anticipated bill.

In the mean time, got something fun to do?
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If I had, I would lean back in my chair and wait for the bill. Sooner or later it always arrives.

As with the new system, every household has to pay, obviously nobody has to register with Serafe anymore - as one had to with Billag. No bill, no debt, no blame, no fine.

One day the list of the commune will be correct and have you on it (probably even with "arrived at xx date) and that's when you get your eagerly anticipated bill.

In the mean time, got something fun to do?
I would like to be a law-abiding immigrant to avoid to perpetrate nasty stereotypes and send the UDC-SVP to 50%

I was worried about a possible fine that's why I inquired about this with Serafe.

Quick update: the OCPM replied and I will receive the bill in January from Serafe.
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2-year Serafe bill?!

I just received a bill for this and next year's Serafe, in total almost 700 francs in one single instalment, and I don't even watch TV or listen to the radio! This is ridiculous
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Old 05.12.2019, 13:27
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I just received a bill for this and next year's Serafe, in total almost 700 francs in one single instalment, and I don't even watch TV or listen to the radio! This is ridiculous
Unfortunately, even if you don't watch telly or listen to the radio, you will have to pay. Unless, you can prove that you do not own at all, a device that would allow you to receive any programmes...e.g. no cell phone, car radio,TV-Set, PC, Laptop, Tablet whatever...

Also the law has been changed not long ago, to that EVERY household in CH has to pay the licence fee unless.....



Click on this link https://www.serafe.ch/en/

and then ....exemption from the fee.
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I just received a bill for this and next year's Serafe, in total almost 700 francs in one single instalment, and I don't even watch TV or listen to the radio! This is ridiculous
That's why, not listening to Swiss news etc. costs double.

Joke aside:
As EE wrote: Everybody has to pay it now.
  • Check the date mentioned on the bill. Is it for last year too maybe? And did you not get a bill last year? (They messed up big time when they took over - actually not them but the communes, so let's not blame them for it) and they're bound to sort it out now.
  • If the bill is for two years ahead: It is wrong. Return it with a remark on it (copy that before you send it off!!).
  • If the bill is dated for one year it is obviously wrong. Do the same as above.
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That's why, not listening to Swiss news etc. costs double
Priceless
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