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We invest the money in heating the bridges
How many are there besides the trial one near the Thunersee?
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How many are there besides the trial one near the Thunersee?
No idea, but apparently some of the important road bridges are still mined for detonation in case of invasion! Also, apparently many long stretches of straight motorway are also heated and serve as runways in case of war.
Inferiority complex or just well prepared?
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No idea, but apparently some of the important road bridges are still mined for detonation in case of invasion! Also, apparently many long stretches of straight motorway are also heated and serve as runways in case of war.
Inferiority complex or just well prepared?
Got any more urban legends?
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Got any more urban legends?
Which part? Hundreds of bridges were indeed mined; the last of these was cleared only in 2014. And Switzerland does indeed maintain stretches of motorway as emergency runways, just not heated as far as I know.
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Which part? Hundreds of bridges were indeed mined; the last of these was cleared only in 2014. And Switzerland does indeed maintain stretches of motorway as emergency runways, just not heated as far as I know.
Rachel speaks of the present, most obviously.

AFAIK heating was never used. The backup runway concept itself got dropped in the previous millenium. And yes, the last explosives were removed a couple or few years ago.

In short: Urban myths.
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Rachel speaks of the present, most obviously.

AFAIK heating was never used. The backup runway concept itself got dropped in the previous millenium. And yes, the last explosives were removed a couple or few years ago.

In short: Urban myths.
So, as you state yourself, these things did exist until very recently (the roadways-as-runways still exist, of course). Not urban legends, then, just partially no longer extant. In much the same way as Hitler, free love and the dinosaurs are not urban legends.
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Cat eyes are fun. If you're good, after some practice you can change lanes without hitting em.
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So, as you state yourself, these things did exist until very recently (the roadways-as-runways still exist, of course). Not urban legends, then, just partially no longer extant. In much the same way as Hitler, free love and the dinosaurs are not urban legends.
Well, the heating never existed and the backup runways concept got dropped ages ago.

Easily far enough in the past to qualify as urban myth.
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Rachel speaks of the present, most obviously.

AFAIK heating was never used. The backup runway concept itself got dropped in the previous millenium. And yes, the last explosives were removed a couple or few years ago.

In short: Urban myths.
Thanks for bringing me up to date Urs I shall enjoy correcting people from now on!
However try to understand what an urban legend really is. If something was once fact, regardless whether still in existence or not, they can never become urban legend because these are made up of fictitious information and myths.
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Well, the heating never existed and the backup runways concept got dropped ages ago.

Easily far enough in the past to qualify as urban myth.
Do you know what an urban myth/legend actually is?

None of the examples given above (with the possible exception of the heated motorways) would qualify as one.
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Old 14.11.2017, 13:39
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Far as I know the UK is the only European country that uses them. Never seen them on the French motorways and we could certainly have used some when we came back from the UK a few years ago when it was blowing a blizzard.
They're great in the rain, and give a lovely sci-fy feel late at night. Ireland has them as well, so Ireland probably will be the only country to have them in the EU soon enough.
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Old 14.11.2017, 23:42
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When these first came out in the UK in the early 90s they were called "rumble strips" and were to be found between the inside lane and hard shoulder of a motorway, the idea behind these was to "shake awake drivers who have fallen asleep at the wheel, warn drivers they are too close to the edge when not concentrating or when the road markings are hidden by frost or snow".


Wee FYI, the cats eye (also known as reflective road studs) was invented in the 1930s by Percy Shaw OBE...a Yorkshireman.


The fact that Swiss the motorway system is also completely unlit outside of major urban areas also makes for scary moments, the UK, again, has a great system of colour coding their cats eyes for easier reading and understanding of the motorway layout in the dark...


* White studs mark the lanes or the middle of the road.
* Red studs mark the left edge of the road.
* Amber studs mark the central reservation of a dual carriageway or motorway.
* Green studs mark the edge of the main carriageway at lay-bys and slip roads (called on or off ramps in the US)
* Green/yellow studs indicate temporary adjustments to lane layouts, e.g. where road works are taking place.
* Blue studs can occasionally be seen and are for the use of the emergency services........

Sadly, I don't believe we will see such things on Swiss motorways in the near future , cost being the reason.
I do not remember the highways in England being lit and I usually travelled to England at night several times a year. But only from Denver to Maidstone (not through the whole country) and a long time ago.

The description you give of all the colors of cat-eyes ..... if I wanna join a party I won't do it on the highway


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How many are there besides the trial one near the Thunersee?
I have no idea, I don't rely/expect to be lucky when I hit any bridge by car in winter

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Which part? Hundreds of bridges were indeed mined; the last of these was cleared only in 2014. And Switzerland does indeed maintain stretches of motorway as emergency runways, just not heated as far as I know.
All not a bad idea, is it

There is also this story that when the Swiss demonstrated their air-force, they just circled around the mountains to make the fleet appear bigger than it was. No idea if that is an other myth but again ..... not a bad idea.

If you can't convince them, confuse them. I'm all for that.
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I do not remember the highways in England being lit and I usually travelled to England at night several times a year. But only from Denver to Maidstone
wow...would that be Denver in Norfolk...or Denver Colorado??
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Re: Where are the bloody cat's eyes??

I spotted cat's eyes in the Vesennaz tunnel outside Geneva, on the side of the road! So about 300m of them! But they're so posh in Vesennaz that I think they're only using them to remind motorists how expensive to build the tunnel was (the people of Vesennaz did not want frontaliers (cross border commuters) to cross their commune, so got them to go underground, out of sight! )
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wow...would that be Denver in Norfolk...or Denver Colorado??
no wonder the street wasn't lit

I meant Dover - as you probably guessed.

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Well, the heating never existed and the backup runways concept got dropped ages ago.
Two stretches of the not so old autobahn next to Payern Airport are suspiciously straight, and have some very interesting gates leading to them

https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.84556.../data=!3m1!1e3
https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.86892.../data=!3m1!1e3

I would say they are still in a state where they can readily be converted to landing strips.


Germany had or actually has them as well.
https://www.geschichtsspuren.de/arti...aetze-nlp.html
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autobahn-Behelfsflugplatz
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Two stretches of the not so old autobahn next to Payern Airport are suspiciously straight, and have some very interesting gates leading to them

https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.84556.../data=!3m1!1e3

https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.86892.../data=!3m1!1e3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_strip#Switzerland
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Re: Where are the bloody cat's eyes??

any Interstate in Iowa

or Kansas

or South Dakota

or...
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Re: Where are the bloody cat's eyes??

I'm sure I'm not the only one who has noticed that the white posts at the side of unlit roads have two dots on the Left, and a vertical bar on the right.
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