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Cheating spouse

Dear all,

First off,
I wanna wish everyone a happy holidays!

I just wanna ask for some infos/advice/tips/opinion on this matter.
Is there a law that governs a cheating spouse? I am living in the canton of vaud, if this would help as I know each canton has different/varying laws on certain matters.

Also, is there a law that governs when a spouse uses your personal belongings like your personal computer and checks your personal mails and all and send those conversations to everyone back home to wreck your reputation?

When a spouse kicked the other out of the flat, changed entirely the lock, what law is the spouse breaking under?

Thank you very much!
Serious responses are highly appreciated.
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Old 29.12.2017, 13:46
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Re: Cheating spouse

Many probably, it's ultimately called divorce.

But there is this for a start.

https://www.englishforum.ch/daily-li...-s-emails.html

Report your spouse to the police.

More info on divorce in general here:

https://www.ch.ch/en/divorce/

Be aware that your permit is under threat if you go this route.
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Old 29.12.2017, 13:48
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Dear all,

First off,
I wanna wish everyone a happy holidays!

I just wanna ask for some infos/advice/tips/opinion on this matter.
Is there a law that governs a cheating spouse? I am living in the canton of vaud, if this would help as I know each canton has different/varying laws on certain matters.

Also, is there a law that governs when a spouse uses your personal belongings like your personal computer and checks your personal mails and all and send those conversations to everyone back home to wreck your reputation?

When a spouse kicked the other out of the flat, changed entirely the lock, what law is the spouse breaking under?
Is there a law that governs a cheating spouse? Depends on what he/she does.

is there a law that governs when a spouse uses your personal belongings like your personal computer and checks your personal mails and all and send those conversations to everyone back home to wreck your reputation? Yes, check the thread on that

When a spouse kicked the other out of the flat, changed entirely the lock, what law is the spouse breaking under? Depends, who rents the flat?

Advice: get a lawyer
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Old 29.12.2017, 13:55
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Dear all,

First off,
I wanna wish everyone a happy holidays!

Thank you! You too!

I just wanna ask for some infos/advice/tips/opinion on this matter.
Is there a law that governs a cheating spouse? I am living in the canton of vaud, if this would help as I know each canton has different/varying laws on certain matters.

No.

Also, is there a law that governs when a spouse uses your personal belongings like your personal computer and checks your personal mails and all and send those conversations to everyone back home to wreck your reputation?

Yes. It's illegal and your spouse can be fined. There was a case just like this in the papers a few weeks ago.

When a spouse kicked the other out of the flat, changed entirely the lock, what law is the spouse breaking under?

It's against the law but I don't know if there are any legal repercussions.

https://www.ch.ch/en/divorce/

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Thank you very much!
Serious responses are highly appreciated.
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Old 29.12.2017, 14:03
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Happy Friday everyone, the last of the year!

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Old 29.12.2017, 14:11
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I just wanna ask for some infos/advice/tips/opinion on this matter.
Is there a law that governs a cheating spouse? I am living in the canton of vaud, if this would help as I know each canton has different/varying laws on certain matters.
The Swiss Criminal Law and Civil Code are the same in all cantons. I am not aware of any law on that mater which would be canton specific.

If you mean by "cheating" having sexual intercourse with an other person while being married, then there is nothing illegal about it according Swiss law.
At least not since 1989 (Was Art. 214 Criminal Code) https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classifi...ndex.html#a214
https://www.amtsdruckschriften.bar.a...do?id=10033486

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Also, is there a law that governs when a spouse uses your personal belongings like your personal computer and checks your personal mails and all and send those conversations to everyone back home to wreck your reputation?
Swiss Criminal Code Art. 143bis https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classifi...x.html#a143bis Please also see link provided by Medea.
In your case may be as well Art. 173 Swiss Criminal Code https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classifi...ndex.html#a173

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When a spouse kicked the other out of the flat, changed entirely the lock, what law is the spouse breaking under?
If there is no court approved separation agreement maybe Art. 181 Swiss Criminal Code https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classifi...ndex.html#a181
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Re: Cheating spouse

Second the get a lawyer advice. Why? Because if you've been locked out of the property you're no longer living there. And under family reunification which I assume you came here on part of the conditions for keeping your permit is that you live together.

So yeah, arrange to see a lawyer early next week after the holidays to find out exactly where you stand.
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When a spouse kicked the other out of the flat, changed entirely the lock, what law is the spouse breaking under? Depends, who rents the flat?
If it was the family flat (Art. 162 Civil Code https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classifi...ndex.html#a162), both spouses have the same rights (Art. 169 Civil Code https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classifi...ndex.html#a169). The court may assign the flat to one of the spouses (Art. 176 https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...ndex.html#a176 and Art. 121 Civil Code https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classifi...ndex.html#a121).
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Thank you for your serious response! Well-appreciated.

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Many probably, it's ultimately called divorce.

But there is this for a start.

https://www.englishforum.ch/daily-li...-s-emails.html

Report your spouse to the police.

More info on divorce in general here:

https://www.ch.ch/en/divorce/

Be aware that your permit is under threat if you go this route.

Hi! Thank you for your response. I'll take a look on your forwarded links.

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Is there a law that governs a cheating spouse? Depends on what he/she does.

is there a law that governs when a spouse uses your personal belongings like your personal computer and checks your personal mails and all and send those conversations to everyone back home to wreck your reputation? Yes, check the thread on that

When a spouse kicked the other out of the flat, changed entirely the lock, what law is the spouse breaking under? Depends, who rents the flat?

Advice: get a lawyer
Hi!
Thank you for your response! well-appreciated!

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Old 29.12.2017, 16:34
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Re: Cheating spouse

Aren't you the one who was cheating? Or well at least "exchanging flirty messages".

Of course there's no law governing cheating. It's not a crime.

Plenty of advice in your other thread already. Cheating and checking personal emails is the least of your concerns.
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Old 29.12.2017, 17:11
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Aren't you the one who was cheating? Or well at least "exchanging flirty messages".

Unless otherwise you personally know the people involved, you wouldn’t dare assume. 🤔
We are not stupid, the problem with liars is they generally don't have a good memory of what they said.

https://www.englishforum.ch/complain...-b-holder.html
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Old 29.12.2017, 17:30
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We are not stupid, the problem with liars is they generally don't have a good memory of what they said.

https://www.englishforum.ch/complain...-b-holder.html
Or what they posted on the internet.
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Re: Cheating spouse

Well for sure if you came from Aargau they would fine YOU for even asking this question. So I advise you to keep such questions to yourself.
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Dear all,

First off,
I wanna wish everyone a happy holidays!

I just wanna ask for some infos/advice/tips/opinion on this matter.
Is there a law that governs a cheating spouse? I am living in the canton of vaud, if this would help as I know each canton has different/varying laws on certain matters.

Also, is there a law that governs when a spouse uses your personal belongings like your personal computer and checks your personal mails and all and send those conversations to everyone back home to wreck your reputation?

When a spouse kicked the other out of the flat, changed entirely the lock, what law is the spouse breaking under?

Thank you very much!
Serious responses are highly appreciated.
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Re: Cheating spouse

First of all, reading your personal emails and sending them to others is definitely illegal (recently was in the media) - that is where YOU got some power, at least if you can prove it. (From the looks, it seems so)

Second, changing the locks and basically throwing you out is another point which is clearly illegal and where you got some power too.

Everything else, not so much.

You've been working illegally, this will not leave a good mark if he decides to go public about it (which I guess he will if you start the legal way)

His "bad habits" like playing video games will have exactly no influence. Unless he beat you (physically), which apparently didn't happen.

Hiding criminal records will probably also not play much onto your side. Will possibly get you some sympathy, but that's about it. And I doubt he had to - by law - to fully disclose his finances to you. That's what separate accounts are for. Something you should have opted for at the time. Hindsight, I know, but you didn't seemed very close to him before the marriage?

So apparently, quite apparently, you're not a match for each other. I'd definitely go for a divorce at this point (and this can be fairly fast if both agree) - if you can't provide your own funding after he kicked you out, you'll be able to claim social benefits till the divorce is through. The state won't let you sleep on the street.. But I'd expect your permit to be gone the day the divorce is through, since you pretty clearly can't provide for yourself in a legal matter (if you get those 2 years time, I'd work on that with highest priority, since this WILL be a game changer if you can provide for yourself - it won't guarantee anything, but at least opens a realistic option. I know of someone in a similar situation who had no trouble on holding on to her permit, but she was the main bread earner anyway in that family, with him basically being the one on social benefits after the divorce..)

So, in short: Fix your "black work" situation, since he'll definitely play that card. Get a lawyer (as others suggested), and if you want to stay in Switzerland, try to find a legal job. But also and already prepare yourself to have your permit revoked just in case.
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First of all, reading your personal emails and sending them to others is definitely illegal (recently was in the media) - that is where YOU got some power, at least if you can prove it. (From the looks, it seems so)

Second, changing the locks and basically throwing you out is another point which is clearly illegal and where you got some power too.
Unless SHE read HIS emails, and kicked him out.

It's not clear from the fairy tale story.

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Dear all,

First off,
I wanna wish everyone a happy holidays!

I just wanna ask for some infos/advice/tips/opinion on this matter.
Is there a law that governs a cheating spouse? I am living in the canton of vaud, if this would help as I know each canton has different/varying laws on certain matters.

Also, is there a law that governs when a spouse uses your personal belongings like your personal computer and checks your personal mails and all and send those conversations to everyone back home to wreck your reputation?

When a spouse kicked the other out of the flat, changed entirely the lock, what law is the spouse breaking under?

Thank you very much!
Serious responses are highly appreciated.



I had a very similar situation mid last year. To say the least, I got my life back in order and that cheating fella had a hard time deflecting all the evidence I had gathered against him. Feel free to contact me for more on this.
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I had a very similar situation mid last year. To say the least, I got my life back in order and that cheating fella had a hard time deflecting all the evidence I had gathered against him. Feel free to contact me for more on this.
I would recommend a healthy dose of skepticism. For instance, in post linked to by Fatmanfilms in post #11, OP says

"As of writing [Dec 19], I have left the apartment 3 days ago, as he had already asked me to pay for the rent itself but I ignored at first. Few days later, he asked me why Im still staying at his apartment."
Why would the OH have the locks changed if OP did indeed move out? There are multiple likely reasons, none of which speak for OP. And if she didn't actually move out she lied half a year ago. Either way, please be careful.
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Re: Cheating spouse

you're assuming he was the cheater, you can also read it as OP being the cheater, husband caught her and sent her cheating emails to everyone etc etc

ETA and having just read the linked posts from the op - yep - shes the cheater etc
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Re: Cheating spouse

What did you do?!?!?

car damaged and covered with flour, eggs, carrots and potatoes
On Tuesday morning (18.12.2018) was in the period from 09:20 to 11:45 clock a passenger car, which was parked in the parking lot, damaged by an unknown person. The passenger car was scratched on both sides. Next the car was covered with flour, eggs, carrots and potatoes.

In addition, the driver's door was smeared with fecal matter and the air was released from the front left-hand tire.

Persons who can provide information about this damage are requested to contact the police





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Dear all,

First off,
I wanna wish everyone a happy holidays!

I just wanna ask for some infos/advice/tips/opinion on this matter.
Is there a law that governs a cheating spouse? I am living in the canton of vaud, if this would help as I know each canton has different/varying laws on certain matters.

Also, is there a law that governs when a spouse uses your personal belongings like your personal computer and checks your personal mails and all and send those conversations to everyone back home to wreck your reputation?

When a spouse kicked the other out of the flat, changed entirely the lock, what law is the spouse breaking under?

Thank you very much!
Serious responses are highly appreciated.
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car damaged and covered with flour, eggs, carrots and potatoes
On Tuesday morning (18.12.2018) was in the period from 09:20 to 11:45 clock a passenger car, which was parked in the parking lot, damaged by an unknown person. The passenger car was scratched on both sides. Next the car was covered with flour, eggs, carrots and potatoes.

In addition, the driver's door was smeared with fecal matter and the air was released from the front left-hand tire.

Persons who can provide information about this damage are requested to contact the police



What are you on????
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