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Old 25.02.2018, 19:32
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Tradesman drinking while working

The plasterer is working at our house. When they arrived at 7 am that morning they brought all the materials inside yet one of the two men was repeatedly going outside to the van but always re-entering the house empty handed. As it is so cold at the moment and he was not closing the door fully this let a lot of cold air into the house. Initially I thought he was going out to smoke but when I looked outside I saw he was drinking beer. At 10:00 a.m. In fact he had an entire plastic case of beer bottles. I checked to be sure it was not alcohol free beer.

When this was brought to the attention of his boss who owns the company his reply was that the guy has been working for him for over 20 years and this is "not so bad". I replied that no worker has ever been drinking while working at our home and I find this completely unacceptable.
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Old 25.02.2018, 19:39
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Re: Tradesman drinking while working

Not all that unusual in small crews. (not to say that it's ok)
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Re: Tradesman drinking while working

If it does not affect their work, let it go. Hire someone else next time.
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Old 25.02.2018, 20:00
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Re: Tradesman drinking while working

Wow! They still doing that ,very old tradition http://www.englishforum.ch/images/smilies/tongue.gif
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Old 25.02.2018, 20:15
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Re: Tradesman drinking while working

My father was basicaly an alcoholic. And at the same time one of the best flight engineers in the world.

With some people it simply does not adversely affect them.

If the work is good then leave the guy alone.
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Old 25.02.2018, 20:19
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Re: Tradesman drinking while working

Only beer ? It could have been worse. What the quality of his work like ?
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Old 25.02.2018, 20:21
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Re: Tradesman drinking while working

Look on the bright side, he could have been going out for a smoke...
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Old 25.02.2018, 20:23
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Re: Tradesman drinking while working

Tell him to bring the beer inside and stop wasting your heat and your time!
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Re: Tradesman drinking while working

Not that I support this kind of thing, but there are people that just aren't compos mentis without a certain level of alcohol in their system.

My surgeon was an alcoholic. Since he was our next-door neighbor too, I knew his beer consumption (home delivery, four crates a week). When sober, which was very rare, he was a complete jerk and a trembling wreck, and I wouldn't have hopped on his operating table.
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Re: Tradesman drinking while working

The funniest story I ever heard was a 707 boeing captain so drunk he forgot to release the brakes and left a whole lot of black lines on the taxi way before my dad and the first officer had to talk him into sitting that flight out in captains bed. The captain just kept giving it more power until the tyres lost traction. Apparently the noise was horrible.

Lots of funny drunk captain stories. Those were the days.

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Old 25.02.2018, 20:43
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Re: Tradesman drinking while working

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If it does not affect their work, let it go. Hire someone else next time.
We had our roof tiles removed a couple of years ago due to Marder damage.

When the workers had finished, there were beer cans and cigarette ends in the flower beds

With the recent high winds, we were the only ones in the whole street to lose roof tiles.

It's totally unprofessional to drink on the job. If they want to do it in their break they can but not when a customer is paying.
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The plasterer is working at our house. When they arrived at 7 am that morning they brought all the materials inside yet one of the two men was repeatedly going outside to the van but always re-entering the house empty handed. As it is so cold at the moment and he was not closing the door fully this let a lot of cold air into the house. Initially I thought he was going out to smoke but when I looked outside I saw he was drinking beer. At 10:00 a.m. In fact he had an entire plastic case of beer bottles. I checked to be sure it was not alcohol free beer.

When this was brought to the attention of his boss who owns the company his reply was that the guy has been working for him for over 20 years and this is "not so bad". I replied that no worker has ever been drinking while working at our home and I find this completely unacceptable.
The company is leaving itself a bit exposed, I would say. If they do a crap job, they would have a hard time defending it given that there was alcohol being consumed on site. Especially as you already informed the boss about it.

Not saying the job will be crap, nor that alcohol in small amounts would be problematic but I'm surprised that companies don't try to close that loop, purely so it doesn't give customers a foot in the door to pick holes in the workmanship.
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Old 25.02.2018, 21:35
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With some people it simply does not adversely affect them.
... believed every alcoholic everywhere. Likewise, I know I can drive after a few, because it doesn’t affect me the way it does other people, right?

Demand that they work sober or find a new crew. Drinking is for personal time, not work time, unless you’re a consultant.
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Old 25.02.2018, 21:39
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Re: Tradesman drinking while working

The guy obviously knows it's not right. Else he would do it inside.

There's not much you can do, until he has hit rock-bottom. His employer probably shares this view and employs him while he's "functional".

And obviously nobody but himself can force him into detox.

After talking with the boss, the best thing would probably have been to either fire the crew or allow him to bring the beer inside so that at least the house doesn't cool off and he doesn't waste further time commuting between the house and the van...
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Re: Tradesman drinking while working

But nowadays, coke is all the rage with workers, this guy seems quite old fashioned and honest.

Easier intake and no bottles to bring back.You wouldn't even notice. Have noticed deliveries of the white powder right on construction sites. A proper Znüni.
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Re: Tradesman drinking while working

You have concrete evidence of this?

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Easier intake and no bottles to bring back.You wouldn't even notice. Have noticed deliveries of the white powder right on construction sites. A proper Znüni.
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Old 25.02.2018, 22:25
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Re: Tradesman drinking while working

I'm a bit surprised by some of the responses.

So it's okay for him to be drinking on the job because...why exactly? He's "just" a plasterer? What if he was the electrician? How about the banker managing your retirement fund transfer? The doctor treating your cancer? The police officer directing traffic?

I've never had a job in my life where it would be acceptable to drink continually while working. After work, yes. One glass of wine at lunch with clients, maybe. But continually throwing them back? No way.
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Re: Tradesman drinking while working

If he had an accident while working and it was known that he was drinking I can imagine SUVA kicking up a stink about paying for treatment.
And what anyone says about what might have been in the past, it just isn't ok.

Interesting the stories about intoxicated flight crew....what happens now? They get carted off by the police and make headlines.
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Look on the bright side, he could have been going out for a smoke...
Even worse yet, he could have not gone outside to smoke.
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Even worse yet, he could have not gone outside to smoke.
Or even worst, he could have racked a few, lit one up, and slurred out loud that there are no hookers in this baitshack.
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