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Thanks for curing me!

I joined this forum just to say Thank You. You guys here cured me of my Switzerland obsession.

For about 4 or 5 months now I was totally obsessed with Switzerland and was contemplating relocating there with my 8 year old daughter from the USA. I watched a TON of VLOGS on YouTube and read countless articles, and even started job hunting. I was convinced by all my research that Switzerland was like a Utopia from the way they make it seem. Man was I wrong!

For a week now I have started reading various forums online for Switzerland, and this forum in particular helped me to remove those rose colored glasses and see that Switzerland is not a Utopia or the Promised Land.

I have read threads in different sections here all the way back to 2014, and once I read what people here talk about, I realized that all the VLOGS and articles online that paint this pretty picture of Switzerland are flat out wrong. This amazing “Quality of life” and “Great work / life balance” that everyone speaks of in Switzerland is not really better than what we have in the US. Now I realize that not everyone in the US can say that, but I would think that most would though.

I don’t have to deal with hardly any of the issues that you guys speak of here. I could give a ton of examples, but I think reading this forum speaks for itself.

Don't get me wrong, the USA has many issues as well, and I am not trying to diss Switzerland, I just wanted to say that it doesn’t appear to be as awesome as the internet makes it out to be. It was my dream to move there for this "Better quality of life" they keep talking about, but in the end, my dream was utterly shattered and I come to realize my Quality of life I have right now is better than what I would have in Switzerland.

If anyone gets offended, I deeply apologize. It's just not easy to have your dream get taken away like that.

Oh, and since you guys are also here to practice your English skills, what you refer to as a CV is called a Resume in English.
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Yeah, so your 'lifelong dream' for living in a country you have, erm, never visited, was shattered by the subjective opinions of random people on the internet?

3/10, must troll harder..
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Oh, and since you guys are also here to practice your English skills, what you refer to as a CV is called a Resume in English.
In American English maybe....but there is more than one kind of English.
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Re: Thanks for curing me!

Please by aware that this site is owned by the federal government with the main purpose to control the size of the English speaking expat population. Most of the accounts are robot accounts that post fake issues.

In reality, it really is Utopia.
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Oh, and since you guys are also here to practice your English skills, what you refer to as a CV is called a Resume in English.
I'm not and no, it isn't. As Snoop Dogg once said: eat a dick.
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Yeah, so your 'lifelong dream' for living in a country you have, erm, never visited, was shattered by the subjective opinions of random people on the internet?

3/10, must troll harder..
I think it is a good attempt, I do absolutely adore the remark about CV at the end, there must be some members who would just forget about the whole thing and don't care and in the end still get upset by such utterly dumb remark.

I mean come on, the insulting Switzerland is done a bit immature, but he tried to make a story out of it, he even brought a little kid in and it is asking for different groups of people to respond.

I'd give it a 7/10
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Yeah, so your 'lifelong dream' for living in a country you have, erm, never visited, was shattered by the subjective opinions of random people on the internet?

3/10, must troll harder..
Troll? Ha....I love when people have nothing better or constructive to say so they call people a troll. If I was a troll I wouldn't waste my time to actually create an account and spend time and thought to make a post like I did.

Where did I say this was a "lifelong dream"? I said 4 or 5 months I have been thinking about this.

As far as "Random people on the internet", you guys here are every day people talking about every days things. That is the best way to really hear what it's like. It's compared to reading a review of a product you want to buy. The reviews might make it sound awesome, but when you read what people who actually used that product say, you get a much better picture of what it's really like.
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Re: Thanks for curing me!

I do not know your situation in the US, but I fully believe that you might had a wrong perception what live in Switzerland really is. Just had similar experience last week: had to drive to some places just after 5 during rush hour, holly that really makes one happy about the place they live.

If I need to be reminded where the real Bünzlies live I read some HOA horror stories from the USA.
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I think it is a good attempt, I do absolutely adore the remark about CV at the end, there must be some members who would just forget about the whole thing and don't care and in the end still get upset by such utterly dumb remark.

I mean come on, the insulting Switzerland is done a bit immature, but he tried to make a story out of it, he even brought a little kid in and it is asking for different groups of people to respond.

I'd give it a 7/10
I would probably say that most of my good friends are all foreign from all over the world, and none of them I have ever heard call a resume a CV. I had no idea what a CV was and had to look it up. I was mainly trying to make the point that a lot of people would get confused and not know what a CV was, especially Americans.
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I would probably say that most of my good friends are all foreign from all over the world, and none of them I have ever heard call a resume a CV.
They're probably just dumbing down their conversation when speaking with you.
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They're probably just dumbing down their conversation when speaking with you.
Please, don't you ever type such again when I have coffee in my mouth.
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Re: Thanks for curing me!

Phew! thank goodness you realised before it was too late, no, really, that really was a close one!


You are so right, this country is terrible, you should stay well away from it...in fact, we poor bastards suffering here would thank you to please warn everyone you know who may have the slightest inkling to venture here to stay well away! In fact, this place is not even worth coming to for your holidays (that would be vacation in your form of English, like your version of CV being resume, which in fact should be spelt résumé being it comes from French...)
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I had no idea what a CV was and had to look it up.
Oh my, you had to look it up. How dystopian.

Good job you spotted what a chimera Switzerland is, the place has a surfeit of things to learn - the cathexis might have been too strenuous for you.
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Phew! thank goodness you realised before it was too late, no, really, that really was a close one!


You are so right, this country is terrible, you should stay well away from it...in fact, we poor bastards suffering here would thank you to please warn everyone you know who may have the slightest inkling to venture here to stay well away! In fact, this place is not even worth coming to for your holidays (that would be vacation in your form of English, like your version of CV being resume, which in fact should be spelt résumé being it comes from French...)
Thank you. You proved my point with your reply.

I was hoping some people on here would prove me wrong, but so far the attitude hasn't helped.

Looking back, sure I suppose I should have worded my original post differently, but I was just trying to show a point between what VLOGS and articles say seems different than what every day people say.
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Switzerland is definitely not a utopia. I'll save that list for another day. (Hint: I refer to Switzerland as the Stepford Wife of Countries. Meant to appear perfect on the surface...but peel back the layers and, uh-oh.) But it is much better than most countries to live. Great place to raise children. It has its warts, like all countries. But it is clean, very clean. Great social services. Very low rate of violent crimes. Healthy lifestyle with all the outdoor activities and walking. If the child qualifies in lower schools, essentially free university. America can't touch a stick to these things. I'm an American. Switzerland is most certainly better than the America of the last 10-20 years.

This forum in particular has some rather aggressive, condescending posters; more so than the several sports blogs I frequent, which I find upside down. Even so, we're talking about at most 5 people. Not a particular large N for a country. But there is great info here if you can avoid or not react to the nasty posts. Remember this forum is largely designed to help when people are having issues in a country they are not familiar with; therefore, the majority of the threads will sound negative.

You'd be well advised not to base your opinion of a country on an expat forum. Maybe check the overwhelming number of expat polls that list Switzerland high on the places to live list. But sure, people bitch and complain.....its human nature.
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I would probably say that most of my good friends are all foreign from all over the world, and none of them I have ever heard call a resume a CV. I had no idea what a CV was and had to look it up. I was mainly trying to make the point that a lot of people would get confused and not know what a CV was, especially Americans.
A CV is an English abbreviation of Curriculum Vitae. Résumé is French.

But really. Switzerland is as amazing as all the Vblogs you have been watching. The complaints you read here are by a few random people who just need to vent sometimes about some of the odd ways of doing things here. Ignore them and move here, you will love it.

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I would probably say that most of my good friends are all foreign from all over the world, and none of them I have ever heard call a resume a CV. I had no idea what a CV was and had to look it up. I was mainly trying to make the point that a lot of people would get confused and not know what a CV was, especially Americans.

Absolutely amazing the benefits of education.....
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I was hoping some people on here would prove me wrong, but so far the attitude hasn't helped.
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People hate when you confront what they like. In fact Switzerland is full of people having that attitude and worse, there's a culture against any form of contestation/confrontation here.

So you can't expect people to appreciate your opinion. They can't comprehend because they are right and you are not.

I think you are extremely lucky and wise to have make realization that what you have is great and that you don't need to cross the world to find it. And let's not forget brown sugar, easily available where you are

Sure, there are some good things here too, but it's not easy and comes at a cost. Like having to deal with numerous petty things and dumb issues created by local anal psychos who have nothing better to do than to report you for a paper on a mailbox or because you took a dump after hours. Hey in fact it's even legal to flush anytime, but it seems that some people have problems with actually reading the regulations and prefer to be dumb about it rather than reasonable.

Let's face it, while nature is beautiful around here, it comes at the great cost of compromise and it's certainly not for everyone.

And look, [humour]in the US if someone annoys you, there's always the possibility to shoot them. In here you have laws and it's badly perceived to deal with the problem yourself [/humor]
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f I was a troll I wouldn't waste my time to actually create an account and spend time and thought to make a post like I did.
There have been many troll attempts on this forum far longer and more eloquent than yours.
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A CV is an English abbreviation of Curriculum Vitae. Résumé is French.

But really. Switzerland is as amazing as all the Vblogs you have been watching. The complaints you read here are by a few random people who just need to vent sometimes about some of the odd ways of doing things here. Ignore them and move here, you will love it.
...Uuuh! Would that not be... latin...?

At the end of the day OP it all nulls it´s self out, the first time I went to the US I had this Hollywood created travel brochure utopian vision in my mind, my oh my how was I surprised to see that the US has day to day dreary drudge just like everywhere else. No exception.
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