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Housing situation in Geneva when single

Hi folks,

I'm currently living in a small 200sqft (19sqm2) studio in Geneva since a year (when I moved to GVA). The studio is brand new but gosh it's small and after a year I feel like I'm "restricted" in there. And it's too small to invite friends.

I'm looking for a new place to live-a real 3rooms apartment: 1 bedroom, 1 main room, an equipped kitchen and a bathroom (something like 650sqft, 65sqm2) but it seems impossible to find in Geneva or Nyon. And something renovated or new. Max price would be CHF1800/1900.-.

I don't want to live in the countryside as I'm only 20 and I want to enjoy the city life.

The apartments that I find are either too old, ugly, too expensive, noisy, or with smoking neighbors and when I finally find the good one and that I apply for it I always get the answer "we are sorry but the apartment was rented to a couple". Even tho my salary is OK to rent the place and that I have a 5yrs EU B Permit and a perfect credit score-and I also speak French fluently.

Is there a way to live decently while single in Geneva (and not with a roommate?)

I'm just fed up of working all week long and living like a uni student.

Or maybe I'm just used to North American condos and Genevan apartments just can't compare to them. Idk.

Thanks!!
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Re: Housing situation in Geneva when single

Perhaps the easy answer to this is to live across the border in France? Annemasse springs to mind - plenty to do there for a 20 year old. So much more variety of apartments and much less expensive than Geneva city. Try it!
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Perhaps the easy answer to this is to live across the border in France? Annemasse springs to mind - plenty to do there for a 20 year old. So much more variety of apartments and much less expensive than Geneva city. Try it!

I've thought about it but no - Annemasse is more like a bedroom community than an actual city. I think I would be bored there. And when I go there for grocery shopping it doesn't seems really safe. And my Swiss friends would hate me for becoming a cross border commuter
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. And my Swiss friends would hate me for becoming a cross border commuter



Really................why?
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Really................why?
Jealousy that he actually had the guts to do it...
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I'm looking for a new place to live-a real 3rooms apartment: 1 bedroom, 1 main room, an equipped kitchen and a bathroom (something like 650sqft, 65sqm2)
That's 2 or 2.5 rooms by the counting standards used around here (no idea about France), subject to kitchen size. Just saying.
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Re: Housing situation in Geneva when single

Not much you can do about it, Swiss landlords prefer couple in a apartments that are build for couples.

You could try more going the "nachmieter" route.
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That's 2 or 2.5 rooms by the counting standards used around here (no idea about France), subject to kitchen size. Just saying.
They include the kitchen in the room count in Geneva so 1 bedroom, 1 living room and a kitchen would be a three room flat.
If the kitchen had space for a dining table or there was an unusually large entrance hall etc there may be an extra .5 added on to that.
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They include the kitchen in the room count in Geneva so 1 bedroom, 1 living room and a kitchen would be a three room flat.
If the kitchen had space for a dining table or there was an unusually large entrance hall etc there may be an extra .5 added on to that.


Does that apply to Geneva only? Or Vaud, say, as well?
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Does that apply to Geneva only? Or Vaud, say, as well?
Only Geneva as far as I know.
Kitchens in Geneva tend to be non fitted (with the exception of a sink) too so the tenant has to furnish it. It is very much like France in that respect.
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I've thought about it but no - Annemasse is more like a bedroom community than an actual city. I think I would be bored there. And when I go there for grocery shopping it doesn't seems really safe. And my Swiss friends would hate me for becoming a cross border commuter
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Really................why?
Sadly the swiss can be pretty nasty about "cross-border workers (frontaliers) coming into their country and taking their jobs"... who then go home at night to a cheaper country to spend a swiss salary.

It's a knee-jerk reaction to foreign workers and has become particularly bad in Geneva in recent years.
The haters completely ignore two fairly obvious facts; a large percentage of frontaliers are swiss nationals who've been unable to find accomodation within the canton so they've been forced to look across the border for somewhere to live. And that Geneva would grind to a halt without the thousands of nurses, shop-assistants, waiters, etc. who work in the city but can't afford swiss rents.
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Re: Housing situation in Geneva when single

Personally, I would not recommend Annemasse, if moving to France, there are indeed much nicer places and closer to GVA as well.

For the OP, you just need to be persistant and make it your second full time job to find the apt. you are looking for. With such low vacancy rates, it will take time and perseverance. But there are apts. out there. Best is word or mouth, someone needing to exit quickly, etc.. Competing with the few adverts on the big sites will still be like 1 in 100. Try GHI? WRS? Glocals? and similar.

Maybe this..https://worldradio.ch/classifieds/ho...2-1202-geneva/
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Personally, I would not recommend Annemasse, if moving to France, there are indeed much nicer places and closer to GVA as well.

For the OP, you just need to be persistant and make it your second full time job to find the apt. you are looking for. With such low vacancy rates, it will take time and perseverance. But there are apts. out there. Best is word or mouth, someone needing to exit quickly, etc.. Competing with the few adverts on the big sites will still be like 1 in 100. Try GHI? WRS? Glocals? and similar.

Maybe this..https://worldradio.ch/classifieds/ho...2-1202-geneva/
Oh wow this flat seems amazing! I've just checked glocals and found hundreds of ads. I did not know they had ads on Glocals.

Thanks for the tip!
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