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Old 06.01.2020, 22:00
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Re: People not offering their seat to elderly, injured or heavily pregnant ladies

I admit I conceded defeat without asking today...again. And no one offered, despite me quite visibly not being as mobile as others. But I'm not really offended, as I didn't speak up.

The platform was already packed by the time I got up there, and I didn't have the energy to try and battle to the front of the queue. By the time I got on, only one seat was left in that carriage and a young man took it and glared at me as if to dare me to ask him to give it up. I walked past him to the end of the carriage and stood in the corner where there's some support when the train speed changes quickly (the stairs were already full).

You might wonder why I didn't confront him or ask anyone else. We're all tired and grumpy and want to get home. My ride is only about 15 mins. I pick my battles and yet again I only wanted to get home without much fuss.
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Old 06.01.2020, 22:04
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I admit I conceded defeat without asking today...again. And no one offered, despite me quite visibly not being as mobile as others. But I'm not really offended, as I didn't speak up.

The platform was already packed by the time I got up there, and I didn't have the energy to try and battle to the front of the queue. By the time I got on, only one seat was left in that carriage and a young man took it and glared at me as if to dare me to ask him to give it up. I walked past him to the end of the carriage and stood in the corner where there's some support when the train speed changes quickly (the stairs were already full).

You might wonder why I didn't confront him or ask anyone else. We're all tired and grumpy and want to get home. My ride is only about 15 mins. I pick my battles and yet again I only wanted to get home without much fuss.
I thought there were always a set number of seats in each carriage designated for persons with disability?
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Old 06.01.2020, 22:10
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I thought there were always a set number of seats in each carriage designated for persons with disability?
I think it's more of a polite request as opposed to a designation. The signage says "please give up these seats to individuals with reduced mobility" but in my experience, those seats are often the first to get occupied - particularly by people with tons of luggage since there's a bit more space there.
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I thought there were always a set number of seats in each carriage designated for persons with disability?
Or pregnant.

Usually occupied by the abled-bodied....
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I think it's more of a polite request as opposed to a designation. The signage says "please give up these seats to individuals with reduced mobility" but in my experience, those seats are often the first to get occupied - particularly by people with tons of luggage since there's a bit more space there.
Then one should ask them to move? Their luggage is not your problem. On long distance trains one simply has to threaten to report them to the ticket control. That gets them off their fat arse!
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Then one should ask them to move? Their luggage is not your problem. On long distance trains one simply has to threaten to report them to the ticket control. That gets them off their fat arse!
Yes, but then there would be nothing to complain about on this forum.
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Re: People not offering their seat to elderly, injured or heavily pregnant ladies

I just wish that people will be more AWARE - of others etc.. But sadly, mobile devices make my wish almost implausible! Let's not even go into those who drive and text...
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Old 09.01.2020, 21:00
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Re: People not offering their seat to elderly, injured or heavily pregnant ladies

I don't know whether its true or not but Zürichs trams seem to be the slowest in Europe. They just lumber around the city at a snails pace.
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I don't know whether its true or not but Zürichs trams seem to be the slowest in Europe. They just lumber around the city at a snails pace.
It's positive discrimination towards the people with mobility issues.

Anyhow, they may be the slowest, but given the city size it is like 40 mins end-to-end. And they really reach the end of the world (Stettbach anyone? beautiful stairs from underground rail station to ... grass with cows?)
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It's positive discrimination towards the people with mobility issues.

Anyhow, they may be the slowest, but given the city size it is like 40 mins end-to-end. And they really reach the end of the world (Stettbach anyone? beautiful stairs from underground rail station to ... grass with cows?)
The grass and the cows there are rapidly becoming a distant memory as the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuppie take over
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