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She needed cold water, for a start. Why not just handwash? Probably quicker.
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Beach Hotel Zandvoort Netherlands, And I've seen more.
As I said, I've never been in a hotel with one and there aren't many hotels with them. You've sent a link to a centre parcs, bit of a special case.

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You obviously didn't watch the second video. I also claimed that hotels didn't want Indians staying because of the cooking issue.

Don't stir my words.
No word stirring whatsoever - you were claiming (lots of) hotels didn't want Indians staying (purportedly because of food) then quoted an Airbnb forum asking the question. I still don't see much evidence of hotels (especially lots of) mandating this.
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She needed cold water, for a start. Why not just handwash? Probably quicker.
Turning them inside out is quicker still.
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Old 27.01.2020, 16:00
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You obviously didn't watch the second video. I also claimed that hotels didn't want Indians staying because of the cooking issue.

Don't stir my words.
It would be better not to refer to nationalities and just state '- "No cooking in hotel rooms".

I guess that must be difficult to control/enforce.

Not really sure what the answer is - I like to eat the local food when I'm travelling but in your video, the lady said the children were fussy, and they didn't want to eat out in the evening either.
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Old 27.01.2020, 16:02
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As I said, I've never been in a hotel with one and there aren't many hotels with them. You've sent a link to a centre parcs, bit of a special case.
Lots of hotels in the U.S. have a 'kitchenette' as part of the suite - usually with the minimum of a fridge and a microwave but sometimes a two-ring hob too.
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Old 27.01.2020, 16:08
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I believe your claim was that lots of hotels didn't want Indians staying.

Not AirBNBs.

This was my point.
From my experience there are quite a few hotels in Switzerland that will not take Indian travel groups* and cooking in the rooms is one of the issues.

*unofficially of course.

It's not new, and there are plenty of articles about it also:
https://www.luzernerzeitung.ch/zentr...liebt-ld.23664
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Old 27.01.2020, 16:10
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As I said, I've never been in a hotel with one and there aren't many hotels with them. You've sent a link to a centre parcs, bit of a special case.



No word stirring whatsoever - you were claiming (lots of) hotels didn't want Indians staying (purportedly because of food) then quoted an Airbnb forum asking the question. I still don't see much evidence of hotels (especially lots of) mandating this.
And I can't find anything in German or English to back up my statement. Let's just say I got my info from a hotel owner, which of course isn't a reliable source. If I ever find anything to back up my statement, I'll link it in this thread.
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From my experience there are quite a few hotels in Switzerland that will not take Indian travel groups* and cooking in the rooms is one of the issues.

*unofficially of course.

It's not new, and there are plenty of articles about it also:
https://www.luzernerzeitung.ch/zentr...liebt-ld.23664
I saw that in my research but it's dated from 2010 so a bit out of date. It may be that hoteliers don't want their problems made viral due to bad publicity.
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Old 27.01.2020, 16:30
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I don't think I have ever stayed in a hotel that had even a single Michelin star.
I've stayed in a couple for work. One particular hotel restaurant had 2 Michelin stars but our group dinner in the restaurant was, shall we say, less than successful. What might be the peak of haute cuisine in one country, may be viewed as 'what the hell is that?' by nationals of another country.

I was fine sticking to the vegetable dishes, but some of the meat eaters were more than a little perturbed and very conscious to not offend our hosts. I thoroughly enjoyed seeing some of my colleagues struggling to enjoy their food as it came the day after they'd seen me struggling with a dish described as 'boiled tree fungus' which had the appearance, texture and chewability of bubble wrap in a clear broth.
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And I can't find anything in German or English to back up my statement. Let's just say I got my info from a hotel owner, which of course isn't a reliable source. If I ever find anything to back up my statement, I'll link it in this thread.
Perfect, thank you.
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And I can't find anything in German or English to back up my statement. Let's just say I got my info from a hotel owner, which of course isn't a reliable source. If I ever find anything to back up my statement, I'll link it in this thread.
olygirl and Blueangel, their official titles are the "Queens of Anecdotal Evidence That Can Not Be Substantiated".
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As I said, I've never been in a hotel with one and there aren't many hotels with them. You've sent a link to a centre parcs, bit of a special case.
I've stayed in loads, both through work and independently. A few of the major international hotel chains have specific brands for hotels within their group which have these kind of facilities, and they're often aimed at the long stay or business travellers, such as Hampton by Hilton and Residence by Marriott. Even hotels like The Ampersand in London have kitchenettes, and a lot of high end hotels are going down this route because people inceasingly want all the facilities of a hotel combined with home style independence.

Last week, I booked this place for a trip to London https://www.blueorchid.com/en/hotels...n-tower-suites

Stayed here back in 2014 https://www.hoteldarocha.com/ ... and on work trips, I've stayed at a couple of Park Plaza hotels and the Radisson Mayfair in London which had kitchenettes.
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Old 27.01.2020, 17:09
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Where I can proffer evidence, I do. However, I haven't spent my life walking around with a gopro permanently attached to my forehead. Have you?
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Last week, I booked this place for a trip to London https://www.blueorchid.com/en/hotels...n-tower-suites
Not to nitpick (ok, to nitpick!) but again this isn't really a hotel - even on their website they don't list it as such, but as "Suites" next to their "real" hotels like the Rochester. Looks similar on the Portuguese page - Hotel rooms have nowt and "Suites" have a microwave.
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And now look how the Chinese treat our hospitality. They have bought up nearly all face masks in Switzerland with this Coronavirus epidemic. And if tomorrow a real epidemic hits Switzerland then we are left totally defenceless. Total selfishness.

Also blame the pharmacies. They just want their quick buck. They have sold us out to the Chinese.( its nothing new). Now whatever face masks are left are rationed. So who gets these?


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And I can't find anything in German or English to back up my statement. Let's just say I got my info from a hotel owner, which of course isn't a reliable source. If I ever find anything to back up my statement, I'll link it in this thread.
You won't find it anywhere as it would be illegal as it discriminates based upon race.

Still happens a lot though.
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Old 27.01.2020, 17:40
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Not to nitpick (ok, to nitpick!) but again this isn't really a hotel - even on their website they don't list it as such, but as "Suites" next to their "real" hotels like the Rochester. Looks similar on the Portuguese page - Hotel rooms have nowt and "Suites" have a microwave.
Yes, you're nitpicking. The Tower Suites only opened in December and chose their business model based upon current market trends. However, my sis-in-law has booked the Leonardo St Paul's for the same weekend and also has a microwave in their room. I chose the Tower Suites purely based upon it's transport connections to 3 set locations we have to be at, and not on the room facilities.

The point I'm trying (and clearly failing) to make is that, many business class hotels had such facilities in their higher category rooms, club, suites, etc. Due to demand, some chains have set up the suite model as a separate brand within their 'family', whilst others are rolling out the concept through more of their room categorys. After years of being in meetings with brand reps who asked what room facilities our clients were requesting, the commonest answers we gave were kettle, coffee machine, fridge (particularly for diabetic clients), desk, LAN internet connections for government clients who were forbidden from using wi-fi, microwaves for shift workers, 24hr access to a printer, gym, etc...
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Yes, you're nitpicking. The Tower Suites only opened in December and chose their business model based upon current market trends. However, my sis-in-law has booked the Leonardo St Paul's for the same weekend and also has a microwave in their room.

The point I'm trying (and clearly failing) to make is that, many business class hotels had such facilities in their higher category rooms, club, suites, etc. Due to demand, some chains have set up the suite model as a separate brand within their 'family', whilst others are rolling out the concept through more of their room categorys. After years of being in meetings with brand reps who asked what room facilities our clients were requesting, the commonest answers we gave were kettle, coffee machine, fridge (particularly for diabetic clients), desk, LAN internet connections for government clients who were forbidden from using wi-fi, microwaves for shift workers, 24hr access to a printer, gym, etc...
Microwave in room is one thing, but a full on kitchen / kitchenette with hobs etc? You could reheat a curry in the microwave and it might whiff a bit for an hour or two, but you certainly couldn't cook one in it.
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And I can't find anything in German or English to back up my statement. Let's just say I got my info from a hotel owner, which of course isn't a reliable source. If I ever find anything to back up my statement, I'll link it in this thread.
I heard the same. From a hotel owner in Zermatt.

She was vague on the reasons though, and when I tried to find out what she meant she back-pedalled and said she hadn't meant it "like that".
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Microwave in room is one thing, but a full on kitchen / kitchenette with hobs etc? You could reheat a curry in the microwave and it might whiff a bit for an hour or two, but you certainly couldn't cook one in it.
From scratch? Raw ingredients? Easy if you're veggie as many Indians are I can knock one up in about 15mins using only a microwave if it's just for me, but need the hob if it's for OH too. Sorry.
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