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Old 28.01.2020, 11:44
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Actually it was cruel to have Moses carve all this stuff in stone when he could have just produced it with a snip of his fingers.
Not as cruel as Moses was when he told his troops to kill all women and children of rival tribes… (except of virgin girls…)

Numbers 31: 14 Moses was angry with the officers of the army—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—who returned from the battle. 15 “Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them. 16 “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the LORD in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the LORD’s people. 17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
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Old 28.01.2020, 13:19
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Not as cruel as Moses was when he told his troops to kill all women and children of rival tribes… (except of virgin girls…)

Numbers 31: 14 Moses was angry with the officers of the army—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—who returned from the battle. 15 “Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them. 16 “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the LORD in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the LORD’s people. 17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
Uhh gee! this explains Epstein action , and Weinstein !
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Check the new Testament.
Appendix 3 actually.

"douse the unclean meat in butter and bacon fat and verily the unclean will be purified for consumption. Glory to God. Amen."

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If it's unclean, can't you just give it a quick rinse under the tap? Usual rule of thumb in our house.
You have to blow the fluff off first.
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Old 19.03.2020, 13:24
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I wonder how well Swiss businesses are doing without that tourist "invasion" this year...
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Old 19.03.2020, 13:27
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I wonder how well Swiss businesses are doing without that tourist "invasion" this year...
I should think the Indian and Chinese restaurants in prime (and expensive) locations in Luzern, for example, are struggling.
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I should think the Indian and Chinese restaurants in prime (and expensive) locations in Luzern, for example, are struggling.
Read an article some time ago that some chocolate and souvenir shops in Luzern already lost about 50% to 90% of business when only the Chinese stopped coming.
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Old 19.03.2020, 14:17
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We'll be seeing retail shops closing right and left while a demand for federal financial support will become louder and louder.
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Old 19.03.2020, 16:39
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Read an article some time ago that some chocolate and souvenir shops in Luzern already lost about 50% to 90% of business when only the Chinese stopped coming.
How is Läderach doing?
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How is Läderach doing?
Like all others, less sales.
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Old 19.03.2020, 17:19
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Well, there are no more Chineses tourists, rejoice!!!!
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Old 20.03.2020, 09:30
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As far as I'm concerned they can stay at home for a long while longer! When all this is over, the China needs to be held accountable for what they've unleashed upon the world.

Either the virus originated in a lab in Wuhan experimenting with highly pathogenic microorganisms, or it originated at live animal market in Hubei thanks to Chinese barbaric husbandry.

The origin however could be forgiven were it not for the response afterwards. China covered up the outbreak for weeks, lied about its severity, lied about numbers affected, prevented the WHO from entering Wuhan, lied to the WHO about the virus' ability for human-to-human transmission, attacked smeared and threatened those in China that tried to warn of the danger and "disappeared" journalists and critics of the Party's response.

The world needs to have a long hard look at China when this is all over.
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Old 20.03.2020, 11:16
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Either the virus originated in a lab in Wuhan experimenting with highly pathogenic microorganisms, or it originated at live animal market in Hubei thanks to Chinese barbaric husbandry.
a) this would be the worst biological weapon ever. It mostly kills old and sick people, takes weeks of incubation and months to spread? That theory makes no sense at all.

b) The animal market theory is just another pile of crap with more than just racist undertones. Bats are a potential source for the virus mutation, but far from the only one. Corona viruses have been around forever and mutations happen. (And besides that do dozens of Asian and Pacific countries traditionally eat bats for millenia…)

Maybe its time to take off the tinfoil hat...

If anything is China unfortunately coming out on top so far: Pandemic control in Europe was a complete desaster, every country acted on its own, not coordinated effort whatsoever and an absolute lack of leadership. Only thing worse will be the US with a strong leadership which was actively sabotaging efforts and in denial. This crisis has shown the rest of the world that the undemocratic Chinese system is in many ways more efficient that the Western world. And thats not a good thing.
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a) this would be the worst biological weapon ever. It mostly kills old and sick people, takes weeks of incubation and months to spread? That theory makes no sense at all.
you have to admit that if it would be a biological weapon, it's a pretty effective as the whole world seems to lock down.
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Old 20.03.2020, 12:22
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you have to admit that if it would be a biological weapon, it's a pretty effective as the whole world seems to lock down.
Which is not what you want from a biological weapon… you want a very fast transmission, a very quick outbreak and an as high as possible death rate. So that you can in essence kill a city or small nation without causing a global pandemic.
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a) this would be the worst biological weapon ever. It mostly kills old and sick people, takes weeks of incubation and months to spread? That theory makes no sense at all.

b) The animal market theory is just another pile of crap with more than just racist undertones. Bats are a potential source for the virus mutation, but far from the only one. Corona viruses have been around forever and mutations happen. (And besides that do dozens of Asian and Pacific countries traditionally eat bats for millenia…)

Maybe its time to take off the tinfoil hat...

If anything is China unfortunately coming out on top so far: Pandemic control in Europe was a complete desaster, every country acted on its own, not coordinated effort whatsoever and an absolute lack of leadership. Only thing worse will be the US with a strong leadership which was actively sabotaging efforts and in denial. This crisis has shown the rest of the world that the undemocratic Chinese system is in many ways more efficient that the Western world. And thats not a good thing.
Right so China giving humanity its fourth lethal pandemic is probably tin foil theories?
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Which is not what you want from a biological weapon… you want a very fast transmission, a very quick outbreak and an as high as possible death rate. So that you can in essence kill a city or small nation without causing a global pandemic.
Quick death contradicts wide-spread, that is one of the main reasons why Sars, Mers, Ebola and all such failed to become pandemics but remained small-scale.
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If anything is China unfortunately coming out on top so far: Pandemic control in Europe was a complete desaster, every country acted on its own, not coordinated effort whatsoever and an absolute lack of leadership. Only thing worse will be the US with a strong leadership which was actively sabotaging efforts and in denial. This crisis has shown the rest of the world that the undemocratic Chinese system is in many ways more efficient that the Western world. And thats not a good thing.
Every country acted on its own and it's good in a way, because I can hardly imagine them reaching a middle ground. There are countries that acted from the first cases and there are some which stayed passive even after hundreds of cases were pouring...

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Old 20.03.2020, 12:43
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Right so China giving humanity its fourth lethal pandemic is probably tin foil theories?
Well, yes, blaming it on a country very much is. That viruses exist and that they mutate is not exactly news. We knew that it has happened before many more times than the three you count and that it is just a matter of time till it will happen again. Sars, Mers, swine flu, Ebola to name a few.
1. Blaming the country where the mutation happened is rather senseless. Given population numbers, life standards and climate is it most of the times going to be either Africa or Asia anyways.
2. If you know that it is coming one day should you have a plan in place. Which is why Obama had a dedicated pandemic team working for that exact case in the white house. Too bad Trump fired them two years ago. Europe seems to have relied far too heavily on our otherwise leading health care systems… they simply cannot cope with this case. And the Asians, not just China but also HK, Taiwan, Singapore and others had the best response. Not because they are smarter, but because they had two or three epidemics in the last two decades… so the plans were ready and executed well.

But maybe thats just me and we should all fall back to racism and finger pointing. Because that typically saves lives… right?
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The origin however could be forgiven were it not for the response afterwards. China covered up the outbreak for weeks, lied about its severity, lied about numbers affected, prevented the WHO from entering Wuhan, lied to the WHO about the virus' ability for human-to-human transmission, attacked smeared and threatened those in China that tried to warn of the danger and "disappeared" journalists and critics of the Party's response.
Are we also going to punish Austria for what happened in Ischgl?

Besides that, punishing China will achieve the opposite of what we want to achieve I'd say, it will only cause them to completely shut up next time. They already have been much more open than with Sars, sometimes one should not look to much at the past but try to work out a solution that is best for future.
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