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The double standards are acknowledging that Trump and the EU handled it badly, by inaction and underplaying the seriousness of it all etc. etc., then implying that China is deserving of special condemnation for exactly that. Namely inaction and underplaying the seriousness of it all.
Again, I don't think anybody has defended Trump or the EU. They both made a mess of it and deserve condemnation as their inaction has put all their citizens at more risk.

China also deserves condemnation, because their government covered up the truth about the virus and their inaction dishonesty and deceit allowed the virus to spread globally, putting the whole world at risk.
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Old 22.03.2020, 12:19
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In hindsight, we're all smarter.
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Old 22.03.2020, 18:57
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Again, I don't think anybody has defended Trump or the EU. They both made a mess of it and deserve condemnation as their inaction has put all their citizens at more risk.

China also deserves condemnation, because their government covered up the truth about the virus and their inaction dishonesty and deceit allowed the virus to spread globally, putting the whole world at risk.
The view point which is persistently attempted to be projected here is indeed the one quoted by this source: https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-...-up?ref=scroll . I suppose, because of the guidance contained there in, we are going to suffer more of it being parroted on this forum.
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The view point which is persistently attempted to be projected here is indeed the one quoted by this source: https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-...-up?ref=scroll . I suppose, because of the guidance contained there in, we are going to suffer more of it being parroted on this forum.
The article doesn't even refute that China covered it up. It just implies it's bad because Trump is publicizing it.
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Old 22.03.2020, 19:36
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The article doesn't even refute that China covered it up. It just implies it's bad because Trump is publicizing it.
Of course it doesn't refute such claims. It is a recently issued communications guideline from the the Whitehouse to its agencies and officials, coaching them with talking points as to how they should focus on China's alleged coverup and blame in this whole matter (and the US's exemplary humanitarian record). It is these talking points which are persistently appearing in this thread.

Here is a simplified version covering the same material: https://www.joemygod.com/2020/03/wh-...nese-cover-up/
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Of course it doesn't refute such claims. It is a recently issued communications guideline from the the Whitehouse to its agencies and officials, coaching them with talking points as to how they should focus on China's alleged coverup and blame in this whole matter (and the US's exemplary humanitarian record). It is these talking points which are persistently appearing in this thread.

Here is a simplified version covering the same material: https://www.joemygod.com/2020/03/wh-...nese-cover-up/
Whether or not this is a talking point for Trump is irrelevant, it's what happened.
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Old 22.03.2020, 19:58
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In hindsight, we're all smarter.
It doesn't take much to be smarter in hindsight after you weld people in buildings.

China (and scientists and governments in the entire world) lost 2 months due to the persecussions/secrecy. It translates to a lot of loss.
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China (and scientists and governments in the entire world) lost 2 months due to the persecussions/secrecy. It translates to a lot of loss.
That’s the point. For some strange reason in the times we live in all roads lead to President Trump
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Old 22.03.2020, 20:56
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Am I the only one waiting till the hordes from China roam our country again?

Would for me be about the best sign that things have returned to normal again.
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Re: Chinese tourist invasion

Truly distasteful hick from texas has a point of view about yellow color people she calls Chinese, as rightly pointed out :how do you know theyre Chinese? moron , as a Swiss, I am disgusted by so called racist expats on this forum. Go home if you don't like it.
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Truly distasteful hick from texas has a point of view about yellow color people she calls Chinese, as rightly pointed out :how do you know theyre Chinese? moron , as a Swiss, I am disgusted by so called racist expats on this forum. Go home if you don't like it.
She can't, most travel has been postponed because of the Chinese coronavirus.
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most travel has been postponed because of the Chinese coronavirus.
I had no idea Trump is contributing to EF too..
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It doesn't take much to be smarter in hindsight after you weld people in buildings.

China (and scientists and governments in the entire world) lost 2 months due to the persecussions/secrecy. It translates to a lot of loss.
Now it wasn't 2 months but rather about one week (maximum) that could have been gained had local level authorities not tried to keep it low, with the little known about it at that time. We aren't the White House here, you can't make up your own facts, thank you.

Check the timeline yourself on how much was covered up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeli...020#1_December

Remind me what the western world did with months (now we are really talking about months!) to prepare for it? Absolutely nothing!

Or as SpongeBob would say:

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Old 23.03.2020, 09:33
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I would laugh, but what is Western? As in western movie?
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I would laugh, but what is Western? As in western movie?
It's an omelet!
https://www.wikihow.com/Cook-a-Western-Omelet
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Now it wasn't 2 months but rather about one week (maximum) that could have been gained had local level authorities not tried to keep it low, with the little known about it at that time. We aren't the White House here, you can't make up your own facts, thank you.

Check the timeline yourself on how much was covered up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeli...020#1_December

Remind me what the western world did with months (now we are really talking about months!) to prepare for it? Absolutely nothing!

Or as SpongeBob would say:

So just to be sure, in your logic pointing to the Chinese is racist but posting a cartoon about "western countries" is not?
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Western!


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I suppose someone will say this is racist as well?
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Old 23.03.2020, 10:06
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I suppose someone will say this is racist as well?
That's Mexico, is it Western?
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That's Mexico, is it Western?
Spaghetti western I think.
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