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Old 26.01.2020, 19:54
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Next question: are there any groups of tourists that are not annoying?
Yes. Anyone who isn't me or my family. We're 'visitors'. Everyone else is a bloody tourist.
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Old 26.01.2020, 20:08
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Thing is, that 10k or 12k average yearly salary isn't really an average salary like we think of it in Switzerland, where indeed most people will earn "roughly" around 60k-120k, ie a relatively small band of just x2.
I used Median salary which is something completely different than the average salary.

The difference: (with random numbers)

10 People earn 10K
10 people earn 20K
10 People earn 100K

Median is 20K
Average is 43.3K

Which is why the Median is good to make a rough estimate of the income of the average working class Joe and why Average income is just a statistical thing that tells us sort of nothing about income distribution.
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Yes. Anyone who isn't me or my family. We're 'visitors'. Everyone else is a bloody tourist.


Those are my favorites: the pretentious tourist that want authentic places that are not touristic.
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Those are my favorites: the pretentious tourist that want authentic places that are not touristic.
Entirely possible. You can even spot lovely gems that way. BUT.. you've got to improvise, to find your own way, often to places where language might be an issue..

I've travelled (as a tourist ) to plenty of spots were I'd assume none or hardly any tourist (foreign or even domestic) have been - and enjoyed them a lot. But they're not in a book, and pictures taken wouldn't show something "famous". Not many tourists enjoy that kind of travel/activity.
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Old 26.01.2020, 21:23
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Have any of you been to China recently ?


It really will open your eyes to the potential spending power
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Old 26.01.2020, 21:34
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Next question: are there any groups of tourists that are not annoying?
Yes.
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Old 27.01.2020, 12:53
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Those are my favorites: the pretentious tourist that want authentic places that are not touristic.
For you we have exquisite trips to Chernobyl and Wuhan......
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Old 27.01.2020, 13:20
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Re: Chinese tourist invasion

While we're at it...

Because of the smell of curry being cooked by Indian guests in their hotel rooms, many hoteliers would rather not have Indian tourist groups at their accommodation.
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While we're at it...

Because of the smell of curry being cooked by Indian guests in their hotel rooms, many hoteliers would rather not have Indian tourist groups at their accommodation.
How many hotel rooms have a kitchen??
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Old 27.01.2020, 13:46
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Hmmm - well this is interesting, all group tours stopped from China due to the virus, still doesn’t stop over tourism
So long as there are empty hotel rooms, there is no 'over tourism'.

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Old 27.01.2020, 13:49
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While we're at it...

Because of the smell of curry being cooked by Indian guests in their hotel rooms, many hoteliers would rather not have Indian tourist groups at their accommodation.
While we're at it...

Maybe if the hotels served more decent food, the guests wouldn't have to resort to cooking for themselves in their rooms.
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Old 27.01.2020, 13:53
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While we're at it...

Maybe if the hotels served more decent food, the guests wouldn't have to resort to cooking for themselves in their rooms.
Wouldn't work. People microwave stuff in their rooms because they are cheapskates. The people interested in fine dining are a totally different demographic, you know, people who understand you can (and should) wander a little bit further than the hotel lobby to find good food.
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Old 27.01.2020, 13:54
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While we're at it...

Maybe if the hotels served more decent food, the guests wouldn't have to resort to cooking for themselves in their rooms.
I've only resorted to doing that in Norway and Sweden.

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People microwave stuff in their rooms because they are cheapskates.
Actually, I was on expenses so it it wasn't due to being cheap.

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Old 27.01.2020, 13:54
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Wouldn't work. People microwave stuff in their rooms because they are cheapskates. The people interested in fine dining are a totally different demographic, you know, people who understand you can (and should) wander a little bit further than the hotel lobby to find good food.
Understatement of the year.
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Maybe if the hotels served more decent food, the guests wouldn't have to resort to cooking for themselves in their rooms.
Works the other way, too. Mr and Mrs NeverBeenOutOfNorfolk are too afraid to try the "foreign muck" on their anniversary city break to Paris/Rome/Berlin so tuck into Pot Noodles and tins of beans in their room, smuggled into the country in the rolled up socks packed in their suitcase.
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Old 27.01.2020, 14:01
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I've only resorted to doing that in Norway and Sweden.
I've had excellent food in Sweden.

Perhaps you're one of those people who should wander a little bit further than the hotel lobby to find good food?
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Maybe if the hotels served more decent food, the guests wouldn't have to resort to cooking for themselves in their rooms.



You should really look at reserving above your usual 1 star hotels Tom
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You should really look at understanding the hotel star rating system.

It's mainly based on facilities such as lifts, gyms, restaurants, spas etc and not the quality of the food.
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Old 27.01.2020, 14:10
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I've had excellent food in Sweden.

Perhaps you're one of those people who should wander a little bit further than the hotel lobby to find good food?
Swedish food is BORING!

Norwegian is far more varied and better, but after a week it gets tiring, and wine prices in restaurants are absurd to the point that I feel bad about having the company pay it!

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Wouldn't work. People microwave stuff in their rooms because they are cheapskates. The people interested in fine dining are a totally different demographic, you know, people who understand you can (and should) wander a little bit further than the hotel lobby to find good food.
Fine dining may need to walk beyond the hotel lobby, but fine drinking is a whole other challenge. I've traveled with 2 or 3 wine bottles in the suitcase just in case there's nothing to drink at the vacation place. Sometimes the bar is closed, sometimes the hotel runs out of beer (it happens ), sometimes it's more expensive than Switzerland, sometimes just walk along the beach until you find a nice spot...
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