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Old 27.01.2020, 14:14
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Swedish food is BORING!

Norwegian is far more varied and better, but after a week it gets tiring, and wine prices in restaurants are absurd to the point that I feel bad about having the company pay it!

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It's not just the prices. Coming from Switzerland I guess there is very little that can shock me price-wise. It's that the Swedes seem to have a bit of a fixation on Chardonnays, which can get very boring after a while.
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Swedish food is BORING!

Norwegian is far more varied and better, but after a week it gets tiring, and wine prices in restaurants are absurd to the point that I feel bad about having the company pay it!

Tom
This.

I've spend 3 years in hotels, motels and B&B's for work, in the beginning it is great eating at a restaurant every day, after some time it gets bored as hell and you just pay a local small bar some extra money to serve some normal average household food, or if you have a kitchen of your own just start cooking yourself besides bringing homemade microwave dishes.

As for Swedish food being boring, my wife's Swedish family cooks most of the time Danish...
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Old 27.01.2020, 14:16
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It's not just the prices. Coming from Switzerland I guess there is very little that can shock me price-wise. It's that the Swedes seem to have a bit of a fixation on Chardonnays, which can get very boring after a while.
The also have a fixation with sauces on their meat.

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Old 27.01.2020, 14:19
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I've spend 3 years in hotels, motels and B&B's for work, in the beginning it is great eating at a restaurant every day, after some time it gets bored as hell and you just pay a local small bar some extra money to serve some normal average household food, or if you have a kitchen of your own just start cooking yourself besides bringing homemade microwave dishes.
Or, I'd buy some nice beef (or fish) and make tartare or albese and wash it down with a nice bottle!

No need to actually cook.

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The also have a fixation with sauces on their meat.

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And not just simply watery sauces like we often see here, they love 'em just as fatty as can be.

(I do like their sauces tho, but like always I prefer sauces served separately)
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Or, I'd buy some nice beef (or fish) and make tartare or albese and wash it down with a nice bottle!

No need to actually cook.

Tom
Often not that easy in the Netherlands to buy proper beef (Or whatever meat) at reasonable distance

I'm amazed with the quality of the average Dutch meat, it often is so bad that becoming vegetarian is not to save the animals, but more to save yourself
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Old 27.01.2020, 14:25
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How many hotel rooms have a kitchen??
They often bring their own.
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Old 27.01.2020, 14:27
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And not just simply watery sauces like we often see here, they love 'em just as fatty as can be.

(I do like their sauces tho, but like always I prefer sauces served separately)
The stuff they marinate their herrings in can be excellent, if you go to the right places.

But i always thought of herrings as being more a breakfast thing, or as a snack in between. Not really a main course.
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They often bring their own.
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Old 27.01.2020, 14:35
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You should really look at understanding the hotel star rating system.

It's mainly based on facilities such as lifts, gyms, restaurants, spas etc and not the quality of the food.

Not at the other end of the market that evidently you are used to


PS. What are "restaurants" used for in hotels ?
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The stuff they marinate their herrings in can be excellent, if you go to the right places.

But i always thought of herrings as being more a breakfast thing, or as a snack in between. Not really a main course.
Ha! That brings back memories - pickled herring was a craving of mine when I was preggers. Must have eaten my way through an entire trawler boat of it during those months. Maybe I have some Scandi-blood in me.
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The stuff they marinate their herrings in can be excellent, if you go to the right places.

But i always thought of herrings as being more a breakfast thing, or as a snack in between. Not really a main course.
My OH's mum can make the most amazing oven dishes with ansjovis and/or herring. As for all those jars with marinated herring for breakfast... I skip. I tried a bunch of them and had enough for life.
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Old 27.01.2020, 14:41
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Not at the other end of the market that evidently you are used to
For me the quality of the food is more important than the number of stars unlike those people who are more concerned with how many stars it has so they can bore their friends and colleagues with how important they think they are (ring any bells Today only?)

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Sometimes I really wonder.

At least in some it's just an extra earner and guests are "encouraged" to eat in the hotels's restaurant.
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Btw, I see nobody addressed the issue of hotel rooms having kitchens.

I don't think I've even ever been in a hotel room with a microwave. Airbnb for sure, but never a hotel room.
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Old 27.01.2020, 14:53
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Btw, I see nobody addressed the issue of hotel rooms having kitchens.

I don't think I've even ever been in a hotel room with a microwave. Airbnb for sure, but never a hotel room.
You can easily put an induction stove in a suitcase.

There's the bathroom basin for washing up. You can cook quite a complex Indian meal on a one-ring induction stove. I've done it (but not in a hotel room).
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For me the quality of the food is more important than the number of stars unlike those people who are more concerned with how many stars it has so they can bore their friends and colleagues with how important they think they are (ring any bells Today only?)
In fairness, Stars should be a guide of quality. In Europe, they generally are - I've had a few shockers (less than 5%) but on the whole you get what the star rating suggests.

Asia was a whole different kettle of fish for me - Japan, yes, fair enough, it seems consistent, but Hong Kong and Macau were hugely overstarred - presumably Michelin is getting a few kickbacks to fund their expansion program.
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Old 27.01.2020, 14:58
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In fairness, Stars should be a guide of quality. In Europe, they generally are - I've had a few shockers (less than 5%) but on the whole you get what the star rating suggests.

Asia was a whole different kettle of fish for me - Japan, yes, fair enough, it seems consistent, but Hong Kong and Macau were hugely overstarred - presumably Michelin is getting a few kickbacks to fund their expansion program.
I've never chosen a place to eat based on a hotel star rating.

You have to be wary of Michelin too. The Normal star system they use is fine but they also use a local system based on local guides who could rate a place well because it cooks the dishes well that they like to eat. The problem with this is that it doesn't take into account the tastes and palate of the local guides.
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My OH's mum can make the most amazing oven dishes with ansjovis and/or herring. As for all those jars with marinated herring for breakfast... I skip. I tried a bunch of them and had enough for life.
I love them.

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Ha! That brings back memories - pickled herring was a craving of mine when I was preggers. Must have eaten my way through an entire trawler boat of it during those months. Maybe I have some Scandi-blood in me.
Ha, another one. Don't know if it's about blood, they're delicious.
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The pharmacies say the chinese have bought up all the Swiss mouth masks and they are all sold out
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You have to be wary of Michelin too. The Normal star system they use is fine but they also use a local system based on local guides who could rate a place well because it cooks the dishes well that they like to eat. The problem with this is that it doesn't take into account the tastes and palate of the local guides.
Sounds like the local guides keep the standard of the local food high through a local rating system. If they "cook the dishes well that they like to eat", that sounds like a plus. I don't mind eating local stuff made by locals when I'm travelling.

Where do they do this kind of rating system? I've never heard of it before.
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