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Old 07.02.2020, 10:12
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It's like you were driving past me and I shout 'your tyre's flat' and you shout back 'prove it' I'm just going to shrug and think 'your funeral.'
Poor analogy, given how easy a tyre is to ascertain one way or another if it's flat.
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The rule about duplicate acconts. MC is thanking these posters, MC is not stupid and knows they are alts or else let her correct me here. So by thanking them she's giving tacit approval to alt accounts.
Rubbish. If she, or any of us, were in a position to say for certain that any given user is a dupe, the account would be immediately banned. If they're still here it's because we don't have the evidence to show to our own satisfaction that it's a duplicate.

Extrapolating from your own unsupported suspicions to accuse her of tacit approval of dupes is just... unpleasant of you.

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Old 07.02.2020, 15:10
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Poor analogy, given how easy a tyre is to ascertain one way or another if it's flat.
'Flat' is not a binary state but the fact you chose to focus on that instead of the point being made says loads but I'll humour you and restate the example in a more generic form. you are involved in an unspecified activity, I warn you there may be an issue of which you are unaware, you say 'prove it' and I shrug. Better?

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Rubbish. If she, or any of us, were in a position to say for certain that any given user is a dupe, the account would be immediately banned. If they're still here it's because we don't have the evidence to show to our own satisfaction that it's a duplicate.

Extrapolating from your own unsupported suspicions to accuse her of tacit approval of dupes is just... unpleasant of you.
<shrugs> your funeral.
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Old 07.02.2020, 15:45
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I'll humour you and restate the example in a more generic form. you are involved in an unspecified activity, I warn you there may be an issue of which you are unaware, you say 'prove it' and I shrug. Better?
Nope. You warn us of a possible issue, we investigate as far as we can, can't find enough evidence to justify any immediate action, but make sure that we continue to monitor the situation and act accordingly. /

As happened with the one I banned last week, who's since been trying all the hacking attempts. Nothing tied it to the original until the posting/thanking/groaning behaviour got similar enough to be sure, at which point I banned it without any further discussions with other mods, given that we'd already discussed it and agreed on this approach.

At no point are we asking anyone else for 'proof', but we're always very glad to receive post Reports pointing out similarities to help us in our activities.

We don't have time to respond individually to each reporter, and can't/mustn't share what we can or cannot find, due to privacy/data protection issues, so I'm sorry if it's not clear enough, but we really do appreciate everyone's efforts in this area - please rest assured that we don't ignore or condone anyone and that we don't need public (even to SDs) discussions about individual cases.
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Old 08.02.2020, 18:04
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You‘d have to be living under a rock not to notice the thanks given to certain ‘suspicious’ users and contentious posts and who they emanate from.
What does it matter?

We have people on the EF who complain when they get an unfair groan . We now get people, apparently, who complain when others get undue thanks .

How about actually taking the conversation at face value and responding to the actual arguments ?

Why this fixation on what buttons people click ?

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Old 08.02.2020, 18:12
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Poor analogy, given how easy a tyre is to ascertain one way or another if it's flat.


Rubbish. If she, or any of us, were in a position to say for certain that any given user is a dupe, the account would be immediately banned. If they're still here it's because we don't have the evidence to show to our own satisfaction that it's a duplicate.

Extrapolating from your own unsupported suspicions to accuse her of tacit approval of dupes is just... unpleasant of you.
Lots of people on the EF have very similar posting styles. Not just the ones that a certain mod thanks , but also those who continuously pour praise on certain other moderators.

Might this be a reason to ban them too
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Old 08.02.2020, 18:48
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Re: Why is nothing being done about Alts?

I can‘t believe that there are thinking people that have actually found their fuel by Dougals Breakfast having been banned.

It‘s quite ridiculous, and I would recommend that you get a life. As no doubt DB already has.
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Old 08.02.2020, 18:50
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I cant believe that there are thinking people that have actually found their fuel by Dougals Breakfast having been banned.

Its quite ridiculous, and Ide recommend yourselves to get a life. As no doubt DB has.
FYI - DB was not banned. He chose to have is account deleted.
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