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Old 12.02.2020, 15:44
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Re: Tradesman Complaint: Sunshades

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Of course time is expenditure as time is generally charged to a client (and the tradesman could have charged time to another client instead), causing a loss of income.
Or imagine the tradesman would have subcontracted someone to do the job.
Of course time is money. However, in law, time is not viewed as reimbursable expenditure. Expenditure as a legal construct is money spent, for which receipts need to be shown.

This is probably a poor example as insurance would come into play but let's say your car is totalled by a drunk driver and you need to sue him to recover your expenditure in replacing it. You would receive nothing for the extra five hours per week that you had to spend on public transport to commute to and from work. Nothing for the ten hours of research and phoning around, or the half day spent going out to the dealership and collecting your new car... see what I mean?
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And yet many people do, in fact, have an hourly rate for their work. Then, time definitely equates to Francs. Plus materials and transport costs, in Francs.
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Although the website has been removed from the title, somehow this post still contains the website. Don't know whta to do about this. Have written to the team for help.
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Although the website has been removed from the title, somehow this post still contains the website. Don't know whta to do about this. Have written to the team for help.
Don't worry, the links are gone. what you see is your computer being friendly and remembering things to speed up loading webpages you've visited before.
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Re: Tradesman Complaint: Sunshades

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He came to do some measurements on the Terrace and make an offer for what it would cost to have new sunshades installed.
After pondering back and forth I confirmed that the offer was OK. He came back to me and said that he would need a signed contract before he orders anything.
Some thoughts:
- yes oral agreements are generally valid. However, if the parties agree on a form requirement (i.e. a written, signed agreement) then they are not bound unless the contract is actually signed. https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classifi...index.html#a16
- the Swiss Unfair Competition Act prohibits the unauthorized use of the work results of someone else (i.e. offers, calculations, plans).
https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi.../index.html#a5 (German only).

In summary, if the tradesman did not want to be bound before having a written agreement in place, then he cannot really complain if the OP walked away before signing the dotted line.
However, if the OP took the measurements (and any plans) that the tradesmen made, and simply gave them to a different tradesman to order the materials and install the shades, then tradesman might have a legitimate complaint.
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Links are not completely gone. I see one just below your username and stars in your last post The line in bold formatting...
AH lol, never noticed. Well who ever reads those lines :P
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