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op give up, no one agrees with you
By the looks of it everyone on this forum is absolutely delighted to have this thread, they haven't had so much fun since News of the World shut down. Don't be a spoilsport.
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Old 06.03.2020, 16:17
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By the looks of it everyone on this forum is absolutely delighted to have this thread, they haven't had so much fun since News of the World shut down. Don't be a spoilsport.
Na, just the regular Friday thread fun
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Old 06.03.2020, 16:42
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I had the privilege of visiting their base at Zurich Airport, including seeing the insides of one of the jets and the helicopters. They are one of the few rescue services in the world that is trained to rescue from a sheer cliff face, they have a 200 metre line to do it with. Anyone who has ever done a bit more than travel on a commercial aircraft will know what that means. They saved a family member's life when she became seriously ill while working for the UN in Burkina Faso. This was in the 70ies, they deployed a jet to go and fetch her within hours if being alerted that she was ill.

The REGA having your back if you are in medical peril is one of the most comforting aspects of living in Switzerland. The important thing is that you respect their limited resources by taking personal responsibility for your safety and well-being.
I agree, and saw them in action on a 180m dam where some climbers got into trouble midway. They bought some mountain rescue people who abseiled down, secured the two climbers who were then lifted off the dam by the copter and lowered to the dam's base. The Rega team then put them in the helicopter and took them to hospital. One of the climber's circulation was cut as he was hanging and he was in a bad way. All very impressive and well worth the premium I pay each year.
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Old 06.03.2020, 17:05
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Perhaps OP should trying hiking in Scotland next time...the rescue would be a lot cheaper



https://www.itv.com/news/2020-02-12/...nd-chocolates/
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Re: Complaint on Rega

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As in would I really enquire about the costs before accepting the help? In OP's circumstances, absolutely. And in fact, in any call to an emergency service, ever, outside of my country of residence... unless, of course, the emergency is so accute that I'm unable to pose the question, or if doing so would waste precious life-saving minutes and in such a case I probably would not or could not care about the costs.

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If you call 1414 or 144 you are declaring an emergency...
I'm not so sure that that's an absolute given. In such a call, one might be enquiring about whether or not the circumstances in which one finds yourself are dangerous, or what to do next, which might include being referred to someone else.

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Oh and to the OP....do you have the slightest idea just how much a rescue helicopter plus 3 highly trained personnel costs? Thought not.
This is a very good point!
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Old 06.03.2020, 17:40
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Perhaps OP should trying hiking in Scotland next time...the rescue would be a lot cheaper

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-02-12/...nd-chocolates/
Notably, in that article, it states that the mountain rescue team said the men, who were visiting Scotland from abroad, had admitted a “significant error of judgement and are extremely sorry for the results of their actions”.
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, however I cant believe he is that dumb to think someone would come on foot to find him.
The evidence is, however, mounting that the really is that stupid. I mean, he's continuing to argue his case, even though literally no-one is supporting him.

The important fact that he's not aware of is that 30 minutes after he and his family were rescued, as alpine storm swept by the location, and there was a major landslide. If the rescuers had adopted the OP's plan - well, let's just say it wouldn't have ended well.
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Old 06.03.2020, 18:39
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Re: Complaint on Rega

Well, I'm beginning to see the OP's point that he was incorrectly advised by the Alpine Rescue Team. There may have been a language problem, or the OP and the Rescue agent may evaluated the situation differently. Hard to tell.

Good luck with getting a price reduction. I had to give you a greenie for your determination and not becoming aggressive towards all the horse-beaters. We're extremely proud and appreciative of our Rega and rescue team but they are fallible as well.
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Na, just the regular Friday thread fun
It's taken a significant effort to keep it going into, and now nearly all the way through Friday. Well done everybody.
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Old 06.03.2020, 20:00
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As in would I really enquire about the costs before accepting the help? In OP's circumstances, absolutely. And in fact, in any call to an emergency service, ever, outside of my country of residence... unless, of course, the emergency is so accute that I'm unable to pose the question, or if doing so would waste precious life-saving minutes and in such a case I probably would not or could not care about the costs.
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I would never have thought about the costs involved. Probably it would be the last thing on my mind.

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Notably, in that article, it states that the mountain rescue team said the men, who were visiting Scotland from abroad, had admitted a “significant error of judgement and are extremely sorry for the results of their actions”.
I would probably do that though. And then pay because its only my own fault that someone had to come rescue me.
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I think I read somewhere that Rega accept co-ordinates from What3Words now also .. No idea where i i think i read that.
Yes they do, in fact I think they rather like it as it is easier/shorter than trying to give a long grid reference and more friendly to unfamiliar map users. No chance of getting a digit mixed up or log/lat the wrong way around.

In fact I think it is what our guide used when he needed to call a heli.
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Re: Complaint on Rega

@jarbonik: Out of interest which cafe where you aiming to get to? Where and when did you start from?
Do you know the locations where you were when you called the MR?
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Old 07.03.2020, 13:41
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It's taken a significant effort to keep it going into, and now nearly all the way through Friday. Well done everybody.
Even though it often seems so, Friday is NOT a daily occurrence!

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Yes they do, in fact I think they rather like it as it is easier/shorter than trying to give a long grid reference and more friendly to unfamiliar map users. No chance of getting a digit mixed up or log/lat the wrong way around.

In fact I think it is what our guide used when he needed to call a heli.
If you have the REGA app it sends your exact location to their Control centre.

What3Words will differ by language though.
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Re: Complaint on Rega

just to resurrect this rather funny thread,


2 hikers were killed a couple of weeks ago just over from where the OP's misadventure happened, nice hot clear day, no one knows what actually happened but the theory is a snow shelf gave way and they fell 120m,
we saw the rega looking for them, then bringing the bodies down



https://www.glarus24.ch/artikel/toed...n-elm-2431402/


even experienced hikers get caught out
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Then why bother with the panic? You should have just hunkered down for the night...

Anyway, it’s not like you can choose who rescues you. Switzerland is divided amongst the various rescue organizations. Most of the Valais, for example, is handled by Air Glaciers.

If I were you, rather than making myself look like a total ingrate and demonstrate a striking inability to take responsibility for your own lack of planning and the fact that you put both your child and your wife at risk, I would just accept the fact that you screwed up, pay the bill and be grateful that someone hauled your asses off a mountain in the dead of night.
For 5000 CHF on a July night.... I think i'd be sleeping out. Well i'd like to think I wouldn't be so stupid in the first place.

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Re: Complaint on Rega

No excuse, none. The mountains are much more dangerous than the poulders, but still, you always, always, always need to be prepared.

No excuses, none.
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