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Hi Guys, we are a couple in Bern. It has been almost a year living in a current apartment. We need your help desperately about a noise issue from an upstairs kid. The boy is 8~9 years old and loves playing football & basketball.. even from 8pm~9pm. As you know apartments are quite old in Switzerland. You can imagine how we hear banging and popping a basketball constantly... It is quite unbearable. We tried to be as nice as can be this whole time because it is a boy and we are adults. Today the noise was intense again from 6:20~ 7:00pm. We went up with easter bunny chocolate we bought for the boy. The boy's father was unhappy and very annoyed. He told us why don't we stay in another room.

It's our apartment. I want to be where I want to be to watch Netflix... Yes..we know it is not easy to be quarantined. We are also working from home these days and bearing this noise.. can't even have a movie time on the weekend now...? Would you help to address this issue?

We will appreciate any of your sincere advice on this matter. Please Help Us.
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Re: Noise from baskeball love neighbor kid

Buy earplugs.

Seriously - and sincerely - these are extraordinary times.

Now is not the time to indulge in Nachbarkrieg. Cut the kid some slack; who knows, you may well need the neighbours' help when the tsunami hits.

While our health care system is struggling, while medical personnel are working tireless while under resourced and without protection, while so many are losing their livelihood, while others must continue to work and expose themselves to the virus in order to keep society going, while people are falling sick and dying, now is not the time for petty complaints.

Social distancing actually requires more social tolerance, if we are all to get somehow through this.

Now go and order those earplugs.
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Hi Guys, we are a couple in Bern. It has been almost a year living in a current apartment. We need your help desperately about a noise issue from an upstairs kid. The boy is 8~9 years old and loves playing football & basketball.. even from 8pm~9pm. As you know apartments are quite old in Switzerland. You can imagine how we hear banging and popping a basketball constantly... It is quite unbearable. We tried to be as nice as can be this whole time because it is a boy and we are adults. Today the noise was intense again from 6:20~ 7:00pm. We went up with easter bunny chocolate we bought for the boy. The boy's father was unhappy and very annoyed. He told us why don't we stay in another room.

It's our apartment. I want to be where I want to be to watch Netflix... Yes..we know it is not easy to be quarantined. We are also working from home these days and bearing this noise.. can't even have a movie time on the weekend now...? Would you help to address this issue?

We will appreciate any of your sincere advice on this matter. Please Help Us.
If it was hours long with his basketball then yes. Tell him stop. But not when its 30-40 min.
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Re: Noise from baskeball love neighbor kid

There is a need for both tolerance and to consider the effects of one's behaviour on others.

I am having trouble imagining basketball indoors for a boy of this age. Is their apartment one with exceptionally high ceilings?

If it is a real ball, the parents should consider switching to a synthetic spongelike ball and maybe some carpets.

I know it is especially tough on kids right now but it is up to their parents to respect the needs of others as well.

Is there somewhere outside where the boy can play? I have rarely seen a basketball hoop installed on a house but I am sure it is possible.
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Re: Noise from baskeball love neighbor kid

I feel for you, having a noisy neighbour. But I agree with the others, that in these exceptional circumstances there is probably not much you can do to get the neighbour to change, so it's best to get on with managing your own time and activities a little differently.

Get earplugs. Get sound-muffling ear protection, if you can find somewhere to order one online.

One strategy that can help is to keep a list of the tasks you have to do, that are tedious or noisy, until the time that your neighbours' noise bothers you. That child upstairs starts thumping a ball? Jump up then and do your vaccuum cleaning, or have your shower then, or use the mixer or blender. Or do some sport, then, in your home. Other activities to put on your list can be things you don't really want to do, but must, such as cleaning the bathroom, changing your bed-linen, doing the dishes, etc., or things that require a skill-set you're not very good at, and need high concentration, such as sewing on a button (especially good for this purpose if you can't sew well), or repairing anything that's broken. Or listen to music, and perhaps sing, which can help to lift your general mood, and where it'll bother you less if you don't catch every word (unlike watching a movie).

Depending on the architecture, it might be possible for you to move rooms during his noisy time and, perhaps, make a phonecall in the other room (if you can still hear the person on the other end of the call).

The basic idea is that any time you can succeed in becoming focussed on your own activites (and tolerating the noise you produce), his noise will not seem quite so bothersome, for those minutes. And by the time he quietens down again, you'll have achieved quite a lot, for yourself.

Another thing that can help is to keep reminding yourself that your attention span is longer than his. Therefore, whatever he is doing, he's unlikely to be able to sustain it for longer than 10 minutes, or if he's really dedicated, pehaps 30 or 40 minutes. Good luck!

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Re: Noise from baskeball love neighbor kid

Seriously and soncerely your comment did not help me at all. Yes people are dying due to the shitty swiss health system. Where Fax is still in use to update new paitent case etc GP system is also.. FYI I'm South Korean from Seoul living here almost 6 years. did not married to swiss. I do speak both French and German. If you want to talk about Covid-19. You would not imagine what kind of social descrimniation I have faced here since last 2 months. Would it be better for you if I would have wrote about it instead of a small noisy kid? I don't think so.
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Hi Guys, we are a couple in Bern. It has been almost a year living in a current apartment. We need your help desperately about a noise issue from an upstairs kid. The boy is 8~9 years old and loves playing football & basketball.. even from 8pm~9pm. As you know apartments are quite old in Switzerland. You can imagine how we hear banging and popping a basketball constantly... It is quite unbearable. We tried to be as nice as can be this whole time because it is a boy and we are adults. Today the noise was intense again from 6:20~ 7:00pm. We went up with easter bunny chocolate we bought for the boy. The boy's father was unhappy and very annoyed. He told us why don't we stay in another room.

It's our apartment. I want to be where I want to be to watch Netflix... Yes..we know it is not easy to be quarantined. We are also working from home these days and bearing this noise.. can't even have a movie time on the weekend now...? Would you help to address this issue?

We will appreciate any of your sincere advice on this matter. Please Help Us.
If the boy is indeed bouncing a basketball on the floor constantly, then complain to the landlord as this is unacceptable.
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Agreed- totally out of order. Covid or no Covid.
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Buy earplugs.

Seriously - and sincerely - these are extraordinary times.

Now is not the time to indulge in Nachbarkrieg. Cut the kid some slack; who knows, you may well need the neighbours' help when the tsunami hits.

While our health care system is struggling, while medical personnel are working tireless while under resourced and without protection, while so many are losing their livelihood, while others must continue to work and expose themselves to the virus in order to keep society going, while people are falling sick and dying, now is not the time for petty complaints.

Social distancing actually requires more social tolerance, if we are all to get somehow through this.

Now go and order those earplugs.
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Re: Noise from baskeball love neighbor kid

Sorry for making this post messy. didn't get yet how can I solve this mess.
Dear Meloncollie, Mrs Doolittle and Doropfiz.
Thank you very much all for your advices. Yes the boy is playing with a real basket and soccer ball ... We will talk to him and discuss this matter with nice cup of tea and cookies. how we can find "a harmonious time table" for all. Personally I am not be able to ask his parents what about you guys get a rug in his room blabla. This is too much. very awkward. We are close to this boy. It is NOT something serious so that we would go against neighbor. I just want to hear some other advices before any actions. Thanks again to all.
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Re: Noise from baskeball love neighbor kid

I think hard ball that is made for outside or gyms shouldn't be used in apartments at all, nor heels on hard parkets or wood. Can somebody here make a hack-n-sack? Crochetted (2" diam)? Rice inside? It is a small crochetted ball, not completely filled (so it is almost round, kinda beanie) that one bounces from one ankle to the other (kinda kozak dance style) or to other people's ankles. We used to call it hacknsack. But it is probably called also something else. I can't find it anywhere online, though have the actual ball still. Or crochetting him 3 juggling softish balls. His parents will probably not be happy....
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I worry about hair dye, because I will look like a skunk from next week as my hairdressers appointment is cancelled. Now, I might be hoarding that in the meantime
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Buy earplugs.

Seriously - and sincerely - these are extraordinary times.

Now is not the time to indulge in Nachbarkrieg. Cut the kid some slack; who knows, you may well need the neighbours' help when the tsunami hits.

While our health care system is struggling, while medical personnel are working tireless while under resourced and without protection, while so many are losing their livelihood, while others must continue to work and expose themselves to the virus in order to keep society going, while people are falling sick and dying, now is not the time for petty complaints.

Social distancing actually requires more social tolerance, if we are all to get somehow through this.

Now go and order those earplugs.
Wow, some of you in this thread really do live in la-la-land. Coronavirus or not, there is zero excuse for a kid playing basketball indoors, knowing that there are people living downstairs. Any parent who allows that, or who gets annoyed at a valid complaint, is simply an inconsiderate person. No one should be made to feel stressed in their own apartment over the noise of someone else, regardless of whether there is a pandemic or not. In fact, a pandemic where people are confined indoors obviously means that we need to be especially considerate of our neighbours. The OP is completely in the right in this situation.

OP you have been extremely slack about this with allowing it to continue so long to the point where you have got yourself into this state. By acting so soft-footed they are clearly not taking you seriously. Next time you or your husband need go back up there and tell them politely but firmly that it is causing you stress and that they need to be more considerate. Otherwise, if that doesn't work you will need to write to the landlord as a last measure.

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I feel for you, having a noisy neighbour. But I agree with the others, that in these exceptional circumstances there is probably not much you can do to get the neighbour to change, so it's best to get on with managing your own time and activities a little differently.

Get earplugs. Get sound-muffling ear protection, if you can find somewhere to order one online.

One strategy that can help is to keep a list of the tasks you have to do, that are tedious or noisy, until the time that your neighbours' noise bothers you. That child upstairs starts thumping a ball? Jump up then and do your vaccuum cleaning, or have your shower then, or use the mixer or blender. Or do some sport, then, in your home. Other activities to put on your list can be things you don't really want to do, but must, such as cleaning the bathroom, changing your bed-linen, doing the dishes, etc., or things that require a skill-set you're not very good at, and need high concentration, such as sewing on a button (especially good for this purpose if you can't sew well), or repairing anything that's broken. Or listen to music, and perhaps sing, which can help to lift your general mood, and where it'll bother you less if you don't catch every word (unlike watching a movie).

Depending on the architecture, it might be possible for you to move rooms during his noisy time and, perhaps, make a phonecall in the other room (if you can still hear the person on the other end of the call).

The basic idea is that any time you can succeed in becoming focussed on your own activites (and tolerating the noise you produce), his noise will not seem quite so bothersome, for those minutes. And by the time he quietens down again, you'll have achieved quite a lot, for yourself.

Another thing that can help is to keep reminding yourself that your attention span is longer than his. Therefore, whatever he is doing, he's unlikely to be able to sustain it for longer than 10 minutes, or if he's really dedicated, pehaps 30 or 40 minutes. Good luck!
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Wow, some of you in this thread really do live in la-la-land. Coronavirus or not, there is zero excuse for a kid playing basketball indoors, knowing that there are people living downstairs. Any parent who allows that, or who gets annoyed at a valid complaint, is an inconsiderate person. No one should be made to feel stressed in their own apartment over the noise of someone else, regardless of whether there is a pandemic or not.

OP you have been extremely slack about this with allowing it to continue so long to the point where you have got yourself into this state. By acting so soft-footed they are clearly not taking you seriously. Next time you or your husband need go back up there and tell them politely but firmly that it is causing you stress and that they need to be more considerate. Otherwise, if that doesn't work you will need to write to the landlord as a last measure.



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...If it is a real ball, the parents should consider switching to a synthetic spongelike ball and maybe some carpets.
This! OP could even buy a softer ball and offer it to the family.
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I don’t think that such posts are necessary during these times. It’s important that we stick together. I haven’t seen a single informative or helpful post from you, although there are several threads available for this. Or a post that can help to keep peoples spirits up. Your red blobs (or groans) are laughable by the way, I don’t care, but it does restrict me from giving green blobs to encourage those that spread good information.
We all have to stick together? This is simply a thread where someone was asking for advice about noise, we are giving it with varying degrees of common sense, it has zero to do with "sticking together" or whatever virtue signalling you want to tack on to it this time. You are a random faceless person on the internet, I feel nothing good or bad towards you or anyone else besides temporary reactions to specific posts, so please don't read too much into any groans or red blobs because in the end it means absolutely nothing of any substance.
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I was going to suggest the same thing! My nephews have a soft sponge football for indoors, something like this:


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I love the idea of softball! although I don't know when I can get balls if I order now

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You can order one online from decathlon for 7chfs. Delivery 4-5 days.
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We all have to stick together? This is simply a thread where someone was asking for advice about noise, we are giving it with varying degrees of common sense, it has zero to do with "sticking together" or whatever virtue signalling you want to tack on to it this time. You are a random faceless person on the internet, I feel nothing good or bad towards you or anyone else besides temporary reactions to specific posts, so please don't read too much into any groans or red blobs because in the end it means absolutely nothing of any substance.
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