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Old 28.05.2020, 20:05
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Ugh...rude shop owners. Don't they need business right now?

I had a really terrible confrontation with a super rude shop owner where he went out of his way to personally harass me on the street. Instead of doing something horrible back to him which my my initial reaction, I just left him a good review (of course documenting EXACTLY what happened) and recommended that people go visit his shop because he's probably just hurting and having a bad time like many small businesses right now.

Also...anyway he slices this short of a public apology on the business review site, it's not going to look good for him.

Here's the review I left if you're curious:

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This shop needs more business and is likely hurting right now like most small business this year.

I recently had a very jarring experience with the store owner. I was late to an appointment and jumped out of my car to pay the meter in front of the store. In my hurry, I hadn’t realized I didn’t fully turn the motor off, which is when he came out of his store and told me. He intimidated me and would not let me pay for the meter until I complied with his order to turn off the motor even though I was already standing at the meter with coins in hand. Unfortunately, after this unpleasant confrontation I realized I did not have the right coins for the meter and seeing that his bike shop was the only shop in sight, I went into his store to ask him for change even trying to offer a bit more change for any inconvenience or grief I might have caused him. However, he just told me he could not help me and then ignored me. Luckily a kind stranger walking by on the street after hearing what happened, went into the store on my behalf and got the right coins for me.

I think this store owner is not in a good place right now and needs a bit more kindness during these uncertain times. He probably just had a bad day when he met me, because his last bad reviews about his customer service/people skills was 3 years ago so he has clearly been working on this.

It looked like a nice store with quality high-end bikes and accessories. Go give his wares a look and support local small businesses.
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Old 28.05.2020, 20:11
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I had a really terrible confrontation with a super rude shop owner where he went out of his way to personally harass me on the street. Instead of doing something horrible back to him which my my initial reaction, I just left him a good review (of course documenting EXACTLY what happened) and recommended that people go visit his shop because he's probably just hurting and having a bad time like many small businesses right now.

Also...anyway he slices this short of a public apology on the business review site, it's not going to look good for him.

Here's the review I left if you're curious:
And what is your problem? Because he didn´t give you change?
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Typical one of those reviews where people do not realise that they themselves are the biggest fool in the story.
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Old 28.05.2020, 20:38
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Re: Ugh...rude shop owners. Don't they need business right now?

How does „not fully turn the motor off“ work? Is it possible to partly turn it off??
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From your post, you had no intention to go into the store and give him the business he needed- did you? But taking a space that customers would have required to go into the shop.
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Old 28.05.2020, 20:44
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<<In my hurry, I hadn’t realized I didn’t fully turn the motor off,>>
right, happens all the time

Well, if your car has a manual gearbox it either jumped forward and you would have paid for the wrong parking space or it rolled off and you didn't need a parking space at all. Ergo: No need for change. Thank God for bikers, huh?
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Old 28.05.2020, 21:10
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What a nasty and mean spirited thing for you to do. Reviews are supposed to be about the quality of service and/or goods that you receive from the store and not for spiteful and petty revenge from someone who has no intention of being a customer. Shame on you for posting it and double shame for coming onto a forum to whine and brag about what you have done
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I had a really terrible confrontation with a super rude shop owner where he went out of his way to personally harass me on the street. Instead of doing something horrible back to him which my my initial reaction, I just left him a good review (of course documenting EXACTLY what happened) and recommended that people go visit his shop because he's probably just hurting and having a bad time like many small businesses right now.

Also...anyway he slices this short of a public apology on the business review site, it's not going to look good for him.

Here's the review I left if you're curious:

Great post but keep in mind that Friday is joke-day here.
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Old 28.05.2020, 21:45
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Re: Ugh...rude shop owners. Don't they need business right now?

You clearly wanted to write a bad review about this guy and wrapped it up in niceties to make yourself look/feel better..... I believe we call it a shit sandwich, a way of giving negative feedback but making people feel better whilst doing it.

Either leave a bad review because you think he deserves it, or don't bother writing anything.
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Old 28.05.2020, 21:46
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Re: Ugh...rude shop owners. Don't they need business right now?

If some of you would read the entire post provided by OP, they state, that the shop owner prevented them from paying the meter and from a legal standpoint, he had no right to do so.

Letting the car idle at length is a misdemeanor, if anything, but it has to be proven.
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Old 28.05.2020, 22:01
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I had a really terrible confrontation with a super rude shop owner where he went out of his way to personally harass me on the street. Instead of doing something horrible back to him which my my initial reaction, I just left him a good review (of course documenting EXACTLY what happened) and recommended that people go visit his shop because he's probably just hurting and having a bad time like many small businesses right now.

Also...anyway he slices this short of a public apology on the business review site, it's not going to look good for him.

Here's the review I left if you're curious:
Absolutely despicable, but hi you have now demonstrated to the world twice, just what you are. well done.
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Old 28.05.2020, 22:16
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If some of you would read the entire post provided by OP, they state, that the shop owner prevented them from paying the meter and from a legal standpoint, he had no right to do so.

Letting the car idle at length is a misdemeanor, if anything, but it has to be proven.
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Old 28.05.2020, 22:18
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Letting the car idle at length is a misdemeanor, if anything, but it has to be proven.
... or admitted to, freely, which OP has done, in writing, both on whatever place he/she first posted the review, and here, again.
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Old 28.05.2020, 22:19
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Re: Ugh...rude shop owners. Don't they need business right now?

There's crazy people everywhere.

A few weeks ago I drove to a nearby farm for greens and eggs. The farm has a gravel parking for a dozen cars, albeit no markings at all. I arrived there and simply parked.

I was reaching my wallet when a couple arrived in another car and parked next to me.....in a damned empty large parking during the COVID time. I was about to leave my car when the passenger started to gesticulate and move her arms, trying to say something. I more or less understood that the front bumper of my car was not enough close to the shrubs delimiting the parking, therefore I was not properly parked.

I drive an sporty car, not an SUV, therefore I need to be careful of not denting the low front bumper. Of course I did not move and stayed in my car just to see what happened.

The man went into the farm shop and returned 5 min later. The woman also stayed in her car but she never stopped doing funny faces and pointing how I was not properly parked in an empty large parking with no markings. I just waited in my car until they left with a face of disgust.

Sometimes it's just better to ignore crazy people. What can I do if I leave the car and the crazy woman starts to shout at me and then complain about my inappropriate behavior? I'm a magnet for this type of problems. If she was crazy enough to start arguing out of nothing, sadly everything can happen

I appreciate the rules and order in Switzerland, but sometimes people break the order in serious way only to avoid a minor disruption to their perceived order, FAIL!

OP, crazy people doesn't need any kind of punishment, but forgiveness. Their mental health issues, anxiety and manias are more than enough as punishment for them and their loved ones.
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Old 28.05.2020, 22:24
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... or admitted to, freely, which OP has done, in writing, both on whatever place he/she first posted the review, and here, again.
Yeah, OP forgot, that's all. But that's neither here nor there. I don't know the "idling" laws off the top of my head. But IMO, that doesn't constitute an idling violation and even if it does, that's in the range of a parking ticket and who hasn't gotten those before. Preventing somebody's personal movement by intimidation is a whole different story.
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I had a really terrible confrontation with a super rude shop owner where he went out of his way to personally harass me on the street. Instead of doing something horrible back to him which my my initial reaction, I just left him a good review (of course documenting EXACTLY what happened) and recommended that people go visit his shop because he's probably just hurting and having a bad time like many small businesses right now.

Also...anyway he slices this short of a public apology on the business review site, it's not going to look good for him.

Here's the review I left if you're curious:
The funny thing is that you think you've been generous or kind.

Let me tell you something: this sort of shops survive because they have loyal customers or the type of customers who are after their products, come there with a plan i.e. they often know quite well what are they looking for and when they have an appointment they're not late.


IMHO...of course.
He'll survive.

In my experience these specialised shops are run by people with a passion. It's too bad they fail to cater for every client's needs and are not always in the best mood....well, as they say, nobody is perfect.
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The funny thing is that you think you've been generous or kind.

Let me tell you something: this sort of shops survive because they have loyal customers or the type of customers who are after their products, come there with a plan i.e. they often know quite well what are they looking for and when they have an appointment they're not late.


IMHO...of course.
He'll survive.

In my experience these specialised shops are run by people with a passion. It's too bad they fail to cater for every client's needs and are not always in the best mood....well, as they say, nobody is perfect.

Yes, but OP was not a customer or had an appointment at his shop at all, she merely took a parking space directly outside his shop, stopping potential real customers of his from using it.

For someone whose first instinct was to do "something horrible to him", if there had been real harassment and intimidation as she claims, then she seems the type of person to have just called the police. She could hardly have been that harassed or intimidated either or she wouldn't have then gone into his shop asking for change. More likely this is about him, as was his right, not giving her the change she wanted and so she has become childish

I would not be at all surprised if she was the one that was very rude to the poor man. I stand by my earlier post that it was a very juvenile and petty thing to write that review which had nothing to do with her experience of his services and/or goods. In her own words she wanted to do something horrible and so she did and now hopes for a public apology. OP you are the one that should be making apologies
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Yes, but OP was not a customer or had an appointment at his shop at all, she merely took a parking space directly outside his shop, stopping potential real customers of his from using it.

For someone whose first instinct was to do "something horrible to him", if there had been real harassment and intimidation as she claims, then she seems the type of person to have just called the police. She could hardly have been that harassed or intimidated either or she wouldn't have then gone into his shop asking for change. More likely this is about him, as was his right, not giving her the change she wanted and so she has become childish

I would not be at all surprised if she was the one that was very rude to the poor man. I stand by my earlier post that it was a very juvenile and petty thing to write that review which had nothing to do with her experience of his services and/or goods. In her own words she wanted to do something horrible and so she did and now hopes for a public apology. OP you are the one that should be making apologies
Awww, you're right. She/OP didn't have the appointment there...anyways, I'd like to read the other side of the story, it could be way different than what she/OP wrote here...apologies for the misunderstanding.

Just had two appointments at similar shops and all was good. I started to believe some people live somewhere else not CH.
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Nonsense. The metered parking spaces are for everyone, not just for the customers of the shops they are in front of!
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Yeah, OP forgot, that's all. But that's neither here nor there. I don't know the "idling" laws off the top of my head. But IMO, that doesn't constitute an idling violation and even if it does, that's in the range of a parking ticket and who hasn't gotten those before. Preventing somebody's personal movement by intimidation is a whole different story.
I never got two (!) CHF 60 parking ticket at once.

Engine idling OBV No. 326.2 CHF 60 (Art. 33 Bst. a VRV)
Key in ignition when not in car OBV No. 317 CHF 60 (Art. 22 Abs. 1 VRV)
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