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Don't forget, you have a freaking motor on that thing. Practice on a set of stairs just standing next to your bike; you just need to point it in the right direction and lift the front wheel up the first step. Once you master that, you can progress to just riding your bike onto the train.
That's not how ebikes work (or at least not mine). It is pedal *assist* - not a freaking scooter
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Old 21.07.2020, 13:01
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That's not how ebikes work (or at least not mine). It is pedal *assist* - not a freaking scooter
True. So is mine, yet it has that magic button.*
It did cross my mind though: Mine has a button * to make the front wheel move by itself (meant for helping when pushing the e-bike uphill - they are heavy, they are ) so if it were only one step, olygirl could lift the front wheel into the train, then have the rest pulled up with that power, lifting the back a little in the process.

I'm sure the way I explained that, only people with e-bikes will get it. Sorry.

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Re: E-bike too heavy to load onto the train

Is there no way of knowing when a train with the proper setup will be running? After all, someone with a wheelchair would have no chance of getting on if you can't do it with your bike. I know the Zurich network shows when a Cobra tram will arrive and I believe it has to be every other one that is a Cobra if I remember correctly. So there must be equivalent information available for trains, no?
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Old 21.07.2020, 13:37
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True. So is mine, yet it has that magic button.*
It did cross my mind though: Mine has a button * to make the front wheel move by itself (meant for helping when pushing the e-bike uphill - they are heavy, they are )
Many ebike controllers come with the option of a thumb throttle, although I suspect these are not generally fitted on new purpose-built ebikes, as they completely bypass the pedal sensor.

The other, 'walk' option, which I assume is what you're referring to, is not always so obvious, being a function of the controller itself, so is only available to people that have actually RTFM.
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What does an e-bike weigh? Just out of interest, only have a "normal" bicycle
20 to 30 Kilo's depending on the bike.
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Old 21.07.2020, 16:50
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Is there no way of knowing when a train with the proper setup will be running? After all, someone with a wheelchair would have no chance of getting on if you can't do it with your bike. I know the Zurich network shows when a Cobra tram will arrive and I believe it has to be every other one that is a Cobra if I remember correctly. So there must be equivalent information available for trains, no?
There is a way to find out what kind of train you're about to embark on.

In the SBB app, go to your train connection and swipe to the left. You'll find lots of info including:

- if the train has level access
- if you need to reserve a spot for a bike (at a cost)
- where the sectors for the bike carriages are (available one hour before arrival)

All well and good but sometimes you just don't have a choice. I had gone to the train station before boarding to ask specifically which trains I should take where I don't have to lift my bike. There were no connections available without having to use those darn steep stairs. The clerk advised me to find someone to help me for those situations.

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Old 21.07.2020, 16:51
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Many ebike controllers come with the option of a thumb throttle, although I suspect these are not generally fitted on new purpose-built ebikes, as they completely bypass the pedal sensor.

The other, 'walk' option, which I assume is what you're referring to, is not always so obvious, being a function of the controller itself, so is only available to people that have actually RTFM.
My bike has a "Schieb" function, where I push the button and it will assist me in pushing my bike. That's not a help though when going up those steep and narrow steps.
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Ebikes are a great way to pretend to get back into shape while pissing off everyone on countryside roads
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Ebikes are a great way to pretend to get back into shape while pissing off everyone on countryside roads
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<<Ebikes are a great way to pretend being in shape>>
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I love my ebike, yet I've always been honest about it. Once I overtook some woman who had an impressive speed in the forest and said to her "I got an ebike, that's the only reason I'm overtaking". She laughed.
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Old 21.07.2020, 17:11
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<<Ebikes are a great way to pretend being in shape>>
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I love my ebike, yet I've always been honest about it. Once I overtook some woman who had an impressive speed in the forest and said to her "I got an ebike, that's the only reason I'm overtaking". She laughed.
Here's an article about achieving fitness through e-biking

https://electrek.co/2019/08/11/elect...than-cyclists/
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ftfy: Ebikes are a great way to pretend to get back into shape while pissing off everyone on countryside roads
There is a guy with one of these on our trail system. I see him every 2-3 days just buzzing along at 25+MPH. I mean - what is the point?




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Here's an article about achieving fitness through e-biking

https://electrek.co/2019/08/11/elect...than-cyclists/
LOL LOL LOL from a site that promotes ebikes

don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they are a bad thing, I'm saying 99.999% of riders are kidding/lying to themselves. if you wanted to get fit you'd buy a normal bike then ride the mountain passes when you where fit enough to do so, not buy a 5k carbon fiber mountain e-bike and wobble all the way up and down the mountain with no clue of the chaos behind you putting zero effort into the ride on the way up.
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Old 21.07.2020, 17:33
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LOL LOL LOL from a site that promotes ebikes

don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they are a bad thing, I'm saying 99.999% of riders are kidding/lying to themselves. if you wanted to get fit you'd buy a normal bike then ride the mountain passes when you where fit enough to do so, not buy a 5k carbon fiber mountain e-bike and wobble all the way up and down the mountain with no clue of the chaos behind you putting zero effort into the ride on the way up.
Hereís more evidence, albeit in German: https://www.unibas.ch/de/Aktuell/New...er-Wochen.html

I have every respect for cyclists who brave the passes successfully. However, I donít want to be one of them and I donít enjoy cycling on main roads. I know my fitness increases the more I ride my bike. Of course I could work out in a gym or go jogging, but I enjoy seeing the countryside, exploring and doing something for my fitness, all st the same time.

Iím not a spring chicken anymore but my bike helps me to stay young. The bike is pedal assist, meaning I have to use my own energy to move forward. This isnít a motor bike where I melt inside my protective gear.
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Re: E-bike too heavy to load onto the train

I resisted a long time in getting an ebike. But Dan enjoys cycling and wanted me to join him. I am not nearly as fit as he is (and quite honestly, don't expect to ever be) so we decided that if I got an ebike, at least I could ride with him.

Personally I'd still rather take the motorcycle out and enjoy the countryside. But there IS something to be said for cruising along silently on the empty roads that are forbidden to non-farm vehicles.

What it comes down to is that everyone has their own reasons for getting (or not getting) and ebike.
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Hereís more evidence, albeit in German: https://www.unibas.ch/de/Aktuell/New...er-Wochen.html

I have every respect for cyclists who brave the passes successfully. However, I donít want to be one of them and I donít enjoy cycling on main roads. I know my fitness increases the more I ride my bike. Of course I could work out in a gym or go jogging, but I enjoy seeing the countryside, exploring and doing something for my fitness, all st the same time.

Iím not a spring chicken anymore but my bike helps me to stay young. The bike is pedal assist, meaning I have to use my own energy to move forward. This isnít a motor bike where I melt inside my protective gear.
Hey, whatever floats your boat. It seems like it fits your general needs and despite me personally not being a fan of Ebikes, because of the great danger the pose in everyday traffic, you don't have to justify yourself to us for using one.
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if you wanted to get fit you'd buy a normal bike then ride the mountain passes when you where fit enough to do so, not buy a 5k carbon fiber mountain e-bike and wobble all the way up and down the mountain with no clue of the chaos behind you putting zero effort into the ride on the way up.
I drove quite a few passes recently and there were very few e-bikes in sight. The annoying thing were the "real" cyclists who were sometimes casually pedaling along side by side. There must be something about braving the pass that makes them think they get a free one too.

As for getting fit on a normal bike, that is what I am currently trying to achieve by occasionally cycling to work (started with once a week, now upping it to twice, the goal by the end of August is three times). Thankfully, my current job allows me to dress comfortably and if I were to really get super sweaty, we have a shower at our disposal. My old workplace would not have allowed the casual look, there was no shower and I did not have room to store an outfit change as well as having to take my laptop and desk equipment with me. So I understand those constrained by corporate standards with a hill on their commute choosing to avoid getting sweaty.
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Here's an article about achieving fitness through e-biking

https://electrek.co/2019/08/11/elect...than-cyclists/
Yea, I guess if you do three times the kilomters you get one third more exercise if you have 50% pedal-support. Or something like that ..... let me check with McTavge on that off-hand calculation.

Reading the article, I shall never reveal what I paid for my Flyer.

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There is a guy with one of these on our trail system. I see him every 2-3 days just buzzing along at 25+MPH. I mean - what is the point?

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/00...g?v=1553458297
The point is that bicycle riding is fun. You get places you don't by car. Not everybody does things for the sake of doing sport. So ebikes are great for us lazy people who just want to have some fun.

I doubt anybody claims to be a great cycler using an ebike.
But I believe there are probably more people out in the fresh air or even leaving their car behind to go certain places than before the ebikes.
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There is a guy with one of these on our trail system.
Does he have the bike too?
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He wishes he could ride that!
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