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Old 21.07.2020, 20:11
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He wishes he could ride that!
She would be a lot leaner if the bike was not electric, having spent most of the last 5 months in the mountains it's amazing how fit serious cyclists are.
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Old 21.07.2020, 20:24
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She would be a lot leaner if the bike was not electric, having spent most of the last 5 months in the mountains it's amazing how fit serious cyclists are.
Usain Bolt : 100m champion - 0.1Km
Chris Froome: Tour de France champion - 3500Km
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Old 21.07.2020, 20:26
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Usain Bolt : 100m champion - 0.1Km
Chris Froome: Tour de France champion - 3500Km
Oh please, let's not start this debate. Go back to the "smokers" thread.
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Old 21.07.2020, 20:32
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Oh please, let's not start this debate. Go back to the "smokers" thread.
Don't worry. It's not a debate.
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Old 21.07.2020, 23:03
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I drove quite a few passes recently and there were very few e-bikes in sight. The annoying thing were the "real" cyclists who were sometimes casually pedaling along side by side. There must be something about braving the pass that makes them think they get a free one too.
Whether the bikes are side by side or single file, you still have to get into the other lane to pass the bikes legally (unless you are on a motorcycle, then I'll give you a pass). Pass the bike/bikes only when it is safe to do so and don't assume that the vehicles coming in the other direction will yield to you just because you are only "a little bit" in their lane.
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Old 21.07.2020, 23:19
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She would be a lot leaner if the bike was not electric, having spent most of the last 5 months in the mountains it's amazing how fit serious cyclists are.
New rant: let's not make this a thread on taking up serious cycling in order to get fit. I've known too many serious cyclists who became addicted to their sport and subsequently let their narcissistic traits get the better of them.

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Old 21.07.2020, 23:31
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Whether the bikes are side by side or single file, you still have to get into the other lane to pass the bikes legally (unless you are on a motorcycle, then I'll give you a pass). Pass the bike/bikes only when it is safe to do so and don't assume that the vehicles coming in the other direction will yield to you just because you are only "a little bit" in their lane.
No I don't. That's what we used tons and tons of yellow colour for - to mark the part that solely belongs to cyclists. And it's not meant/large enough for couples to hold hands while pedalling through life.
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No I don't. That's what we used tons and tons of yellow colour for - to mark the part that solely belongs to cyclists. And it's not meant/large enough for couples to hold hands while pedalling through life.
If it's a dedicated bike lane, then I am in complete agreement. However, the "passes" that Kittster was referring to typically do not have a bike lane; bikes share the road with autos.
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Old 22.07.2020, 00:06
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No I don't. That's what we used tons and tons of yellow colour for - to mark the part that solely belongs to cyclists. And it's not meant/large enough for couples to hold hands while pedalling through life.
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If it's a dedicated bike lane, then I am in complete agreement. However, the "passes" that Kittster was referring to typically do not have a bike lane; bikes share the road with autos.
Agreed, within reason. If you still double block the lane when I have the opportunity to pass, I will pass while honking at you. Probably closer than necessary but not dangerously so.

The worst is when the road is basically just wide enough for a car and a bike and they refuse to move until a car comes the other way and it all becomes rather confusing for them *facepalm*
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Old 22.07.2020, 08:34
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...I will pass while honking at you. Probably closer than necessary but not dangerously so.
That's just being an ass
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Old 22.07.2020, 08:53
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New rant: let's not make this a thread on taking up serious cycling in order to get fit. I've known too many serious cyclists who became addicted to their sport and subsequently let their narcissistic traits get the better of them.
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But that's not a reason not to take up cycling. You could say the same about any sport.

Anyway, around where we are, there are a lot of older people with E-bikes who, because of the hills, would not be out cycling if E-bikes didn't exist.
They all appear to be really enjoying themselves and for every couple out on their bike, there's one less car on the road.
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Old 22.07.2020, 09:01
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That's just being an ass
So is intentionally blocking the road for other users. As mentioned, I cycle to work. I make a conscious effort to minimise the space I use on the road. I don't whizz through red lights and I indicate when I change directions - after having checked that it is safe to do so. My ears are not covered by headphones and my phone is never in my hand while cycling. Courtesy is a two-way street.

Furthermore, while I would never overtake unless it was safe for everyone to do so, I have on occasion been overtaken in a dangerous place while stuck behind cyclists. So if you are intentionally blocking the road, you may encourage the more impatient driver to opt for an unsafe manoeuvre.

To be clear, I don't think it's big or clever to get drawn into road rage. I don't really do it as a habit, maybe once or twice after spending a good five minutes stuck behind cyclists that refused to move even when I gave a soft pip to indicate my presence. But I definitely see it done quite often, so even if you are free to crucify me on mount EF, you will make very little difference to the reality on the road.
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Old 22.07.2020, 09:53
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Re: E-bike too heavy to load onto the train

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Cyclists riding parallel drives me bonkers too and I've been known to honk at them in my car while waiting to form a single file again.

However, I would never try to teach them a lesson by dangerously passing them. If anything were to happen, I would be responsible and that's not worth trying to teach them a lesson.
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Cyclists riding parallel drives me bonkers too and I've been known to honk at them in my car while waiting to form a single file again.

However, I would never try to teach them a lesson by dangerously passing them. If anything were to happen, I would be responsible and that's not worth trying to teach them a lesson.
That is why I specified "not dangerously close". Usually, I give them a good two meter berth, in these cases it was probably more like 1.50.

Anyway, Article 46 of the Swiss Road Traffic Act clearly states that cyclists are not allowed the cycle next to each other. The federal council may allow for exceptions but to my knowledge those apply to things like organised races or other large groups cycling together, not Hans-Ueli and Koni straining up the Furka dressed like fluorescent sausages.
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Usain Bolt : 100m champion - 0.1Km
Chris Froome: Tour de France champion - 3500Km
I don't think either of those 'sports' are good examples of fitness, drug taking yes.
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Old 22.07.2020, 17:36
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I don't think either of those 'sports' are good examples of fitness, drug taking yes.
Perhaps snooker, or darts then?
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Agreed.

Agreed, within reason. If you still double block the lane when I have the opportunity to pass, I will pass while honking at you. Probably closer than necessary but not dangerously so.

The worst is when the road is basically just wide enough for a car and a bike and they refuse to move until a car comes the other way and it all becomes rather confusing for them *facepalm*
This is a good reason why anyone driving up a pass that is prone to being easily frustrated should try cycling up it first. Some countries in S America stage things like this for bus drivers to experience what it's like from the cyclist's perspective. What's worse, having to wait a few extra seconds or experiencing a close pass. Usually a friendly beep of the horn while you wait is all you need but most cyclists are aware of cars approaching.
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Old 23.07.2020, 23:04
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Usually a friendly beep of the horn while you wait is all you need but most cyclists are aware of cars approaching.
And that is exactly what I do. Some cyclists still don't move. A few seconds I am fine with but when "Stairway to Heaven" starts playing as you get stuck behind them and you are still there during the banging instrumental guitar solo bit, that is more than a few seconds.

As mentioned before, by law you have to cycle in single file anyway so you should not need reminding in the first place.
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