Funny because I had always understood that many diseases begin transmission before symptoms show. I quickly checked for flu and seems the CDC agree with me.

Not so different to Covid except that is some 2 days before (which fits in again with the cases I personally know of).

Your link, btw, was a very early study and anyway does not say what you appear to think it does - it actually draws no conclusion at all on pre-symptomatic transmission as there was (then) insufficient data.

Another quote from you, Tony.

If there are more people like you, I do hope they'll introduce fines for not complying with the rules. We'll you be screaming and kicking then?

Under review paper r.e. masks for anyone who's interested...

https://osf.io/preprints/socarxiv/wuk6a/

Ah good old Phos....

Not quite - the asymptomatic positive cases were isolated for 2 weeks until they tested negative. Which would mitigate probability of asymptomatic transmission.

Any more cherries you have picked, lately?

Phos would be holding a gun to protect his rights.....

Yeah, but he's British now, right?

@Clifton - I believe you referred to yourself before as christian? Well Pope Francis is gunning for you!

Pope says anti-maskers stuck in 'their own little world of interests'

On the radio this morning they were discussing about how it's now the "in thing" for train travelers to eat and drink on the train so that they don't have to wear masks, particularly in Zurich.

Tom

Oh goodness. I guess for some it was a shortly lived relief from smelling other people's tuna sandwiches and kebabs.

I'm afraid, I don't think he's that sort of Christian.

More this sort:

	Quote:
	Pastor Kenneth Copeland tries to blow away coronavirus Coronavirus: Televangelist Kenneth Copeland ‘blows wind of God’ at Covid-19 to ‘destroy’ pandemic

Here

It was back in April but still hasn't worked.

That's just....scary stuff.

Don't know what TC is, but (s)he really took pleasure in stirring people up....well, mission accomplished.

If ever someone actually looked like the spawn of Satan, it's Kenneth Copeland in that 'laughing' clip. Creepy as hell! He sets my inner 3yr old screaming "Bad man!"

*waiting for TC's groan*

Another Evangelist group apparently got themselves into a spot of bother with Zurich Stadtpolizei yesterday for this little stunt... https://twitter.com/FraschDennis/sta...03133247299584

TC is groaning a lot these days, isn't he? He got smacked down by the American people when his hero, Donald Trump, got obliterated at the polls, he's been spanked by EFers and scientists disproving his unfounded assertions over the pandemic and masks... I guess he's butthurt, as our American friends say, and just not ready to turn the other cheek.

The apostrophe in "Nazi's" bothers me more than the stunt!

Don't sweat it

Almost everybody here in this very thread turned around about at least point regarding covid and measures. Such is the way humans process new situations.

And some people disregard news and data if it doesn´t fit their view of things.

What does this mean? Good faith enquiry etc etc. Confused.


Lot of that about.

I just ate a waffle. Anything?

Don't sweat it.

Exactly. Though few things have essentially changed since the whole thing has started. We've been told to avoid travelling*, we've been told to keep physical distance, hygiene rules, later on when masks were available - to wear masks..

*some people were protesting against that too.

One can hardly call it "spanked" by Efers when those that don't conform to the "EF" view fall foul of the shameless partisan moderation that plagues these pages. Like our friend Full Circle who appears to have been banned for "repeated insults", they must be the wrong kind of insults compared to those that get hurled in my general direction

I groan when people try to make a discussion personal with the sole purpose of trying to provoke a response. Rather like trying to associate my name with Donald Trump, which by the very act is Trumpian behavior. Repeat a lie often enough and all that.

It's not worth my while to engage on such a level, and I won't be feeding the trolls.