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Old 28.05.2009, 15:03
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Oddly enough, One of the strongest if not the strongest beer in the world, Samichlaus, is brewed right here in Switzerland. Its batches vary between 12.5 and 15 % alcohol by volume. The flavor of this monstrosity is definitely an acquired taste.

Czech pilseners are in truth no stronger (4.5 to 5%) than 90% of the beers found anywhere else in the world to include that stuff we Americans drink. (*Macro brews such as Budweiser, Coors, and Miller. American Microbrews, which are gaining in market strength are right up there with the Belgians on flavor as well as strength.)


What I do love about Czech beer is going to Prague and drinking as much as I like without spending a fortune, with most Bars and restaurants charging the equivalent of 1 or 2 Swiss francs. I can't afford not to drink when I go there.
Yeah, CZ Pilsener at Manor is pricey, so is the CZ Budweiser..
We stock up when we go to Czech, my husband loves the local production (he ain't even Czech, it's funny..). So we truck Zlatopramen and Breznak back with us everytime we go. It is about half the price of Pilsener Urquell and Czech Budweiser. You should try it! They sell them in Prague too, since the breweries are not far from Prague.
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Old 28.05.2009, 15:32
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Looks like it was actually Hürliman, which sounds right to my memory.
Hürliman did brew it, but it was under the ownership of Feldschlösschen that it was no longer brewed. Feldschlösschen are and continue to be evil .
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Hürliman did brew it, but it was under the ownership of Feldschlösschen that it was no longer brewed. Feldschlösschen are and continue to be evil .
Never has a truer word been spoken (never mind their slave masters Carlsberk)

At least some new and smaller breweries have popped up since then, still a long way to go.
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Old 28.05.2009, 15:43
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Re: Food in Switzerland

The beauty of strong beer like that referred to here is simple.....you can get off your head with a relatively small volume.....Then go to bed for an uninterupted night sleep...
With the weaker beers you are up all night...well I am (TOP TIP)
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Hürliman did brew it, but it was under the ownership of Feldschlösschen that it was no longer brewed. Feldschlösschen are and continue to be evil .
That's some of the history that obviously escaped my notice. I'm saddened by what "Swiss beer" has apparently become (I'm going based largely on what has been posted in this and other EF threads). While they may never have been spectacular, I remember enjoying what I considered a particularly refreshing and distinct "Swiss" hop signature in the lagers of Feldschlösschen and Löwenbräu-Zürich — but that was decades ago. Sounds like those memories are all that's left of that era.
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That's some of the history that obviously escaped my notice. I'm saddened by what "Swiss beer" has apparently become (I'm going based largely on what has been posted in this and other EF threads). While they may never have been spectacular, I remember enjoying what I considered a particularly refreshing and distinct "Swiss" hop signature in the lagers of Feldschlösschen and Löwenbräu-Zürich — but that was decades ago. Sounds like those memories are all that's left of that era.
Don't dispair, there are some fabulous Swiss beers (Maisgold, Einsiedler, Dinkelbier, Quollfrisch to name a handful). The mass produced Feldschlosschen and Eichof are pretty nasty but you can still get a cracking beer here.

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^^what she said - plus i like ittinger
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^^what she said - plus i like ittinger
Thanks! With tentative plans to drag Mrs Texaner across the pond to see my favorite country later this year, I'll use these suggestions to seed a list of brews to sample during our stay.
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Thanks! With tentative plans to drag Mrs Texaner across the pond to see my favorite country later this year, I'll use these suggestions to seed a list of brews to sample during our stay.
Work your way down this list but not all at once...
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I am amazed at how few of these I have seen here in Geneva. At almost all bars and restaurants here you just order a biere. You don't ask what kind because you don't really want to know the answer. (feldschlossen or Cardinal).
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Re: Food in Switzerland

No, no, no. Work your way through this thread...

Beer Beer Beer
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Re: Food in Switzerland

I have to say that much of the original post I agree with, except:
- Beef : C'mon, this is pretty tasteless. Whenever i go to UK, US or Aus I order a delicious steak. The steaks here just don't rate it for taste!
- White wine : Again...are you on drugs? I live in the so-called swiss riviera where the supposedly best white wine is and most of the white wine tastes like cats ****! Even the ones that are "drinkable" are not preferable to any other reasonable wine-making country (I'm excluding places like malaysia and china from this wine-making list for the record). Its not just hard to find a good white wine...its near impossible and bloody expensive! Go the french, italian, portuguese, American, Australian, NZ or delicious Sth American.

I normally wouldn't dis the swiss for these but since you put it out there....
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Re: Food in Switzerland

Though it, too, may not have been all that spectacular, am I right right in thinking Haldengut is history (even though the website is still up)?
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Though it, too, may not have been all that spectacular, am I right right in thinking Haldengut is history (even though the website is still up)?
They belong to the other evil beer conglomerate, Heineken - still brewing albeit now in Chur afaik.
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They belong to the other evil beer conglomerate, Heineken - still brewing albeit now in Chur afaik.
Chur?!

Sure enough, and then apparently trucked back "home" to Winterthur for distribution.
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Re: Food in Switzerland

Is this Food thread or Beer?

When I see complaint about Switzerland and food, it makes me similarize Switzerland and Mcdonald. Everybody complains about or makes fun of Mcdonald, but there is almost always queue to get into it
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Re: Food in Switzerland

Beer is food!
just had a 5 courser
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Beer is food!
just had a 5 courser
Any proper beer belly showing yet ?
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Have any of you had Älpler Macaron? It is just like homemade Mac & Cheese in the states (if you leave the apples on the side and eat them as a dessert). How about "Knöpflipfanne" (or at least that is what I know it as) -- knöpfli or spätzli (it is called spätzli in the US as well) with cheese, bacon, cream and onions. A beautiful heart-attack dream. Züri Gschnetzelts are absolutely great with either chicken or veal (traditional, but more expensive) and loads of mushrooms.

I was exposed to a wide-range of dishes with Italian and Greek influences loaded with vegitables and pasta. I have had the best homemade tzatziki here, lovely baked peppers stuffed with feta, superb pasta dishes and all sorts of other international dishes. I also was introduced to dishes with curry here (as well as in the UK), whereas no one in my large extended family would have likely ever cooked with the stuff in their lives.

I was a bit confused by what everyone has said about Rösti. It is such a diverse dish!! Have you had Rösti pizza? Throw some cheese, bacon, and veggies on it! How about Rösti with some eggs too? It is like eating a big Sunday breakfast in the US. Normally rösti is cooked as a side dish, but when you add additional ingredients it can occasionally be used as a main.
Pretty much summarizes for me what I like about eating in Switzerland. I do, however, agree that the average quality in Restaurants is ok at best. But I think that's also due to the fact that most Swiss don't eat out very often, and many Restaurants are only visited for business lunches, by tourists or people who don't (like to) cook! I find Swiss home-cooking superior to Germany, England, France, the US and most other western countries, but far inferior to Italy. Most Swiss mums cook a very wide range of foods, typically Swiss food is only eaten occasionally in the middle class that I grew up in. And yes, growing up in Switzerland you get to taste the food in a lot of families cooking. Asian food is mostly horrible in Switzerland, and I am a huge fan of Asian food. You really, really have to know your restaurants to get something great I believe. Walking into a random restaurant and eating something random off the menu rarely results in a great meal.
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Is this Food thread or Beer?

When I see complaint about Switzerland and food, it makes me similarize Switzerland and Mcdonald. Everybody complains about or makes fun of Mcdonald, but there is almost always queue to get into it
I hate to break this to you but the people complaining about McDonalds really aren't the same people who are queuing to get in
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