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Sada, have you drawn this Schabziger online shop to the attention of Dougal's Breakfast?
I hear he's a big fan........

Oh, and that recipe page is lovely!!
yes, I remember DB's reaction to Schabziger, that was just tooooo funny!!!

But RolandRB wants a special Swiss food experience. If this one isn't one, he just can't be helped
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Old 22.06.2009, 16:45
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Sada, have you drawn this Schabziger online shop to the attention of Dougal's Breakfast?
I hear he's a big fan........

Oh, and that recipe page is lovely!!
get bussi and make it RC And I bring the wine or better the MOSCHT Thanks sada
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get bussi and make it RC And I bring the wine or better the MOSCHT Thanks sada
You are welcome! You won't believe this, but I bought some Schabziger today. I quite like it on hot potatoes and a bottle of wine

EDIT: igitt igitt ... I somehow had a lovely memory about having eaten this in the past but I can't get it down my throat anymore nor even smell it

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Old 24.06.2009, 23:40
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Re: Food in Switzerland

Ch-Expat.... you sound a bit homesick for the lovely shores of the lac léman.
Looks like we'll have a beautiful summer, and the café du raisin is still there
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Old 25.06.2009, 10:16
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Ch-Expat.... you sound a bit homesick for the lovely shores of the lac léman.
Looks like we'll have a beautiful summer, and the café du raisin is still there
You bet! The last time I went they were closed!
We do have an interesting/odd Swiss place in the San Francisco Bay Area. It is called Pasta grotto and is located in Foster City (close to the San Francisco airport) in a strip mall in a 100% asian neighborhood.
The owner cooks, serves, does everything. You even see him run to the next door supermarket if he is out of some ingredient. He is from the Davos area and went to the Ecole Hoteliere in Lausanne.
He definitely has Swiss dishes on his menu but after many years spent in the states, his dishes do not look like the original. It is very good though.

http://www.boorah.com/restaurants/CA...98CF9D068.html
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Old 27.06.2009, 00:19
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Re: Food in Switzerland

How about starting a Swiss restaurant yourself ? People in San Fransisco tend to be quite international with a penchant for different cultures. If there are none, then you just might have a niche. That could be fun.

This past month (until today !) the weather was rather amazing and the lake looked like a painted postcard, very calm and pleasant. Just a gentle breeze and that incredible fresh smell that you sense in the very early morning close to the shore. It makes one want to stay still and just feel the environment, or have a coffee sitting outside and watch the day float by.
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Old 27.06.2009, 14:22
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That restaurants in Switzerland, mostly so in urban areas, are expensive, is no secret. Swiss people generally eat at home, to put it simply. Whenever there are some regional specialities, there cannot be a "Swiss cuisine" really. In majority German-speaking Switzerland, you can profit from the point that people are used to Italian, German and French cuisine. Spices ? In many countries, in decent restaurants, they offer you a range of spices like Aromat, HP1, Salt, Pepper, Vinegar, Olive Oil, etc on the table so that you can do the spicing up to your own taste. Beer ? I do not know what kind of beer you like. In most decent places in Switzerland, you also have some alternatives at hand. Try Kronenbourg, or some Irish beers, or Italian beers.
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Old 27.06.2009, 14:26
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I've had a Rösti here in Basel, served in a pan. Lots of potato roasted with fat and onions. I got sick later as I was unable to digest all that grease but I would have to say that it was the best meal I have had in Basel since my arrival here six months ago.
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THIS shows that you have not yet had anything good since your arrival. And as you are in Basel, ever having been over to Mulhouse and other places in the Alsace, with that quite superior food there ?
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Old 27.06.2009, 15:54
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Re: Food in Switzerland

I think we might be able to crown a new 'Defender of the Helvetii'...
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Old 27.06.2009, 20:57
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How about starting a Swiss restaurant yourself ? People in San Fransisco tend to be quite international with a penchant for different cultures. If there are none, then you just might have a niche. That could be fun.

This past month (until today !) the weather was rather amazing and the lake looked like a painted postcard, very calm and pleasant. Just a gentle breeze and that incredible fresh smell that you sense in the very early morning close to the shore. It makes one want to stay still and just feel the environment, or have a coffee sitting outside and watch the day float by.
There was one at Fisherman's Wharf. I am not sure how they were doing.
Fondue in the US was popular in the 70s but now is so passe. People choke at the amount of calories and fat. Even our veal and cream dish wouldn't really fly here.
I have been thinking about a chichi pastry shop like "Mojonnier" in Lausanne. That could do very well.
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Old 27.06.2009, 23:43
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Re: Food in Switzerland

There has been a restaurant, Matterhorn, near Fishermen's Wharf (on Van Ness), for close to 2 decades. Beautiful place that does fondues and other Swiss specialties. I lived near there for about 10 years.

And everyone had a fondue pot in the '70's. Not so popular these days, but I think the Matterhorn is still going. Need to check.

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There was one at Fisherman's Wharf. I am not sure how they were doing.
Fondue in the US was popular in the 70s but now is so passe. People choke at the amount of calories and fat. Even our veal and cream dish wouldn't really fly here.
I have been thinking about a chichi pastry shop like "Mojonnier" in Lausanne. That could do very well.
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There has been a restaurant, Matterhorn, near Fishermen's Wharf (on Van Ness), for close to 2 decades. Beautiful place that does fondues and other Swiss specialties. I lived near there for about 10 years.

And everyone had a fondue pot in the '70's. Not so popular these days, but I think the Matterhorn is still going. Need to check.

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Yes you find those fondue pots at garage sales. In a beautiful olive green color to match your 70s Kenmore refrigerator.
I didn't know of Matterhorn. The one I remember was on Pier 39 in the 90s.
I see that you are from PA. It is 100F today in downtown PA. We had gelatos on University avenue and played with the new Iphone 3GS at the Apple store!
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I hope the haters are at least aware that you have to mix this with butter and that the colour and taste are due to the plant that is used for making this cheese, blue fenugreek (Zigerkraut):

http://www.uni-graz.at/~katzer/engl/Trig_cae.html

Even then I'm willing to admit this cheese is for professionals only

Schabziger and Appenzeller Surchoix are some of my favourite cheeses but I'm certainly not going to limit myself to any region or country for my cheese eating habits so I don't get discussions like french cheese is better than swiss or something like that.

Regarding quality of restaurants, 7 restaurants in Switzerland are awarded with 19 Gault-Milliau points

http://www.help.ch/toplisten.cfm?art=BesteRestaurants

If that's not good enough then I don't know what is. Only two restaurants in the world get 20 points.
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Old 03.07.2009, 10:09
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Re: Food in Switzerland

i have to say most of you seem go to the wrong restaurants. i cant name even a single one i go to in zurich that has said AROMAT on the table.

can you give me an example in what restaurant you have seen that?
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Bier-Falken‎, Löwenstrasse; Johanniter‎, Wolf, Rheinfelder in niederdorfstrasse leap instantly to mind.
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i have to say most of you seem go to the wrong restaurants. i cant name even a single one i go to in zurich that has said AROMAT on the table.

can you give me an example in what restaurant you have seen that?
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...and possibly the Blindekuh.
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Re: Food in Switzerland

ok, read enough. i dunno who of Zurich locals(?) ever considers to go out eating in the Niederdorf and thinks honest this has anything to do with swiss/cuisine/quality? are you going to Venice thinking: oh, i am soooo disappointed to find it that different from Las Vegas Venetian hotel...? Niederdorf/kreis 1/city is a tourist trap. there are some exceptions, but mainly better stay away...if you wanna try city places what about taos lounge? hiltl? bärengasse? brasserie lipp? widder restaurant? i even liked the zeughauskeller. its idle to list more...

btw: interesting to see the argument Krakow has a good price/performance ratio. easy shot when the average income in Poland is 950USD/month and Switzerland is minimum 3times as high.
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ok, read enough. i dunno who of Zurich locals(?) ever considers to go out eating in the Niederdorf and thinks honest this has anything to do with swiss/cuisine/quality? are you going to Venice thinking: oh, i am soooo disappointed to find it that different from Las Vegas Venetian hotel...? Niederdorf/kreis 1/city is a tourist trap. there are some exceptions, but mainly better stay away...if you wanna try city places what about taos lounge? hiltl? bärengasse? brasserie lipp? widder restaurant? i even liked the zeughauskeller. its idle to list more...

btw: interesting to see the argument Krakow has a good price/performance ratio. easy shot when the average income in Poland is 950USD/month and Switzerland is minimum 3times as high.

Typical German and typical German response. Bringing up income difference between your neigbour to the East and CH..what a cheap and desperate shot.
Not sure who brought up price/performance bit here...a few of the bits of discussion which compared Polish and Swiss cuisine had to do with selection and general variety and taste...Zeughauskeller is the best Swiss restaurant I've visited so far and yes it is decent but far to make me rave about how great Swiss food is.
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Re: Food in Switzerland

He was merely mentioning that Aromat isn't available in good restaurants, which I think is true as I can't remember the last time I've seen it.
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