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Hi Folks, how do you manage working with very Swiss people, I.e. very narrow minded, not inclusive and not particularly friendly. I am not saying that being very Swiss necessarily mean very rude. Itís just my experience. Thanks for your answers!
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Re: Working with very Swiss people

If they seem narrow minded, you can be more open minded instead. And also if you think about it enough, you would ultimately realize that it makes more sense doing things the Swiss way.
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Is Monday the new Friday?
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Have you tried turning them off and on again?
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Old 05.01.2021, 10:32
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Hi Folks, how do you manage working with very Swiss people, I.e. very narrow minded, not inclusive and not particularly friendly.
Sounds more like foreigners to me than Swiss!

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Re: Working with very Swiss people

It takes two to tango.
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Sounds more like foreigners to me than Swiss!
Have you tried EasyJet?

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It takes two to tango.
I find Fanta is more popular in Swiss.
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Hi Folks, how do you manage working with very Swiss people, I.e. very narrow minded, not inclusive and not particularly friendly. I am not saying that being very Swiss necessarily mean very rude. Itís just my experience. Thanks for your answers!
I think you should just try to be thankful that you're not one of them. i.e. That you're not "very narrow minded, not inclusive and not particularly friendly."

I'm sure there are probably people like that in all cultures, but even my Swiss husband says that Swiss culture is very "robotic." Just be thankful you only have to deal with them at work.
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Old 05.01.2021, 11:25
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I think you should just try to be thankful that you're not one of them. i.e. That you're not "very narrow minded, not inclusive and not particularly friendly."

I'm sure there are probably people like that in all cultures, but even my Swiss husband says that Swiss culture is very "robotic." Just be thankful you only have to deal with them at work.
It could be that the country is run by the robots. After all, Swiss made the quantum leap in area of AI and machine learning. They must be watching their beloved country from far away while sipping on Pina Colada’s and laughing somewhere on exotic beaches.
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Old 05.01.2021, 11:33
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Hi Folks, how do you manage working with very Swiss people, I.e. very narrow minded, not inclusive and not particularly friendly. I am not saying that being very Swiss necessarily mean very rude. It’s just my experience. Thanks for your answers!
OP - anyone can do what you just did. Thinking you bring a better way than the local one, which probably explains their reaction to you. "How do I work with very .... people", insert nationality. Why do you think that that is friendly on your part?

How about taking a step out of this and feel maybe a bit grateful that "no, it's not me" if it in fact seems to be cultural and taking that gratious energy to open up to differences and working with them? Things are very formal here, that's all. The opposite of chummy and that part is the same at home. Personal responsibility prevails, maybe think why particularly you need them to be inclusive and why they aren't into it immediately? You need them, they might not need you? Go the extra mile. Or don't but be ok with it.
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Old 05.01.2021, 11:34
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If they're customers, not much to do besides a career change
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Re: Working with very Swiss people

Hi Folks, how do you manage working with very non-Swiss people, I.e. very narrow minded, not inclusive and not particularly friendly.

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Hi Folks, how do you manage working with very non-Swiss people, I.e. very narrow minded, not inclusive and not particularly friendly.

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Luckily, I happen not to work with the EFís people.
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Luckily, I happen not to work with the EFís people.
Lol. Elaborate?
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Re: Working with very Swiss people

Come on guys ... give the OP a break and please keep in mind that things are quite different on this side of the rosti graben.

Is your company mainly full of Swiss-German people? I have worked in international companies with diverse nationalities since living here, and I do notice that the Swiss are quite separate/defensive, primarily because they feel like they have to be among so many foreigners. They relish in the opportunity to speak their dialect and will sometimes do so when they perhaps shouldn't, as an act of rebellion to the situation. Try to look at it a bit from their perspective... They are also more formal - which can seem stuffy/boring in comparison to where you are from. I somehow like being different than everybody, so I am just happy the way I am and they can be whoever they want to be...I have to respect their culture & hopefully they respect mine.

If you are working with mainly Swiss-German people, they are not gregarious types and easy to make friends with. You do have to make an effort, and I appreciate it once my efforts pay off, as I've made a genuine friend. The Swiss are not fake half hearted friends...they have been the best ones I've made here in comparison to other expats/immigrants & will show a more "fun and open" side once you get to know them better.

Hang in there...best wishes!
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Old 05.01.2021, 11:59
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Come on guys ... give the OP a break and please keep in mind that things are quite different on this side of the rosti graben.
Then OP should complain about Swiss in his little bubble, and not Swiss in general.

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Hi Folks, how do you manage working with very Swiss people, I.e. very narrow minded, not inclusive and not particularly friendly. I am not saying that being very Swiss necessarily mean very rude. Itís just my experience. Thanks for your answers!
I will go against the grain and try to help you rather than say it is your fault
but you will need to give more information on the problems you are facing (if you ever come back and answer)

Is it about the way you do your job?
Is it about the communication?
Is it the lack of social contact with colleagues? (don't expect much)
Are you being hassled with constant criticism?

Maybe you shouldn't expect some of the things that you take for granted in your country. You cannot change the behaviour of your colleagues but you can change yours, so working with them becomes easier, more harmonious and tolerable.

Sometimes the place is just not good for you as an environment although the work you do is enjoyable. Then you have to decide whether it is worth staying.
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Then OP should complain about Swiss in his little bubble, and not Swiss in general.

Tom
Quite probably first time OP leaves home, so take the complain as an expression of nostalgia, not an anthropological study of CH's society.
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Your basic misunderstanding: Your not at work to socialize, make friends or be popular, you're there to get the job done. Keep that in mind and the Swiss will suddenly seem very normal.
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Your basic misunderstanding: Your not at work to socialize, make friends or be popular, you're there to get the job done. Keep that in mind and the Swiss will suddenly seem very normal.
Maybe it is not so simple, as they always preach: “You must enjoy your job and do in life what you like the most”

The OP enjoys interaction with people and has her own ways.

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