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Mmm Fleischkäse.


Mmm Schwartenmagen

Kalbskopf/Tete de Vaux, Kutteln, Saucisson Vaudvois or Fribourgois, Appenzeller Siedwurst, Glarner Schüblig, Cholera, Mac and minced meat with apple sauce
Don't know about others but this thread has had an effect on me:
A couple of days ago we ordered a slice of Schwartenmagen from Farmy (it's already eaten, it had less pork fat than I remembered but quite close to the one we eat back home), a casserole with Kalbsraet and a big piece of Schinkli Nuss ohne Schwarte both to be baked.

So the weekend is set, easy peasy and not much to cook. What would you propose as a side dish, beside mashed potatoes or any kind of potatoes?

I should probably stop reading these threads because as soon as EFers reveal how much they hate something...I WANT.
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Old 19.02.2021, 08:48
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Don't know about others but this thread has had an effect on me:
A couple of days ago we ordered a slice from Farmy (it's already eaten, it had less pork fat than I remembered but quite close to the one we eat back home), a casserole with Kalbsraet and a big piece of Schinkli Nuss ohne Schwarte both to be baked.

So the weekend is set, easy peasy and not much to cook. What would you propose as a side dish, beside mashed potatoes or any kind of potatoes?

I should probably stop reading these threads because as soon as EFers reveal how much they hate something...I WANT.
i would eat the Schinkli Nuss (which i tried cooking last month too for the first time) i ate it with sauerkraut but i was told to try green beans or dörrbohnen (i love dörrbohnen but have never made it)

i've not tried Schwartenmagen but i am up for it. good luck with your swiss meals, post a pic!
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i would eat the Schinkli Nuss (which i tried cooking last month too for the first time) i ate it with sauerkraut but i was told to try green beans or dörrbohnen (i love dörrbohnen but have never made it)

i've not tried Schwartenmagen but i am up for it. good luck with your swiss meals, post a pic!
Thanks. Luckily we have both frozen green beans and sauerkraut. Btw, it looks like it's pre-cooked though (or smoked), for how long have you baked it and at which temperature? I have to ask because I tend to overcook everything....
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Re: Switzerland Food is.....

About two hours simmering.

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Old 19.02.2021, 13:25
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Thanks. Luckily we have both frozen green beans and sauerkraut. Btw, it looks like it's pre-cooked though (or smoked), for how long have you baked it and at which temperature? I have to ask because I tend to overcook everything....
like what tom said - simmering in the bag - no baking AFAIK. i didn't simmer for 2 hrs - an hour or so - it depends on the size of ham you have
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Old 19.02.2021, 13:32
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Re: Switzerland Food is.....

can anyone recommend any good swiss restaurants in zürich that serve starter and main for chf 50?
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like what tom said - simmering in the bag - no baking AFAIK. i didn't simmer for 2 hrs - an hour or so - it depends on the size of ham you have
OK, sorry for not posting photos here but it wasn't really something special.
I had a piece of one kilo or so and it took less that 2 hours. It is tasty but very salty! I don't eat that salty. Even for my OH was salty, and he's usually adding a lot of salt on his plate. I combined it with mashed potatoes and sautéed carrots (which are rather sweet) to balance things out.
So I don't know what to say, it was OK but it's not something I'd choose if I have more options.
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Old 23.02.2021, 20:55
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I had a piece of one kilo or so and it took less that 2 hours. It is tasty but very salty! I don't eat that salty.
Remove it from the bag then, and simmer in fresh water after a few soakings.

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Old 23.02.2021, 21:03
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OK, sorry for not posting photos here but it wasn't really something special.
I had a piece of one kilo or so and it took less that 2 hours. It is tasty but very salty! I don't eat that salty. Even for my OH was salty, and he's usually adding a lot of salt on his plate. I combined it with mashed potatoes and sautéed carrots (which are rather sweet) to balance things out.
So I don't know what to say, it was OK but it's not something I'd choose if I have more options.
Was that a "Rollschinkli"? And was it "Aktion"?

Over the years I noticed each time they were on "Aktion" they were too salty (and I too add salt anywhere, can't live without it).

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Remove it from the bag then, and simmer in fresh water after a few soakings.
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A few soakings .... hmmm, I might give it an another (one more ) chance.
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Old 24.02.2021, 13:09
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OK, sorry for not posting photos here but it wasn't really something special.
I had a piece of one kilo or so and it took less that 2 hours. It is tasty but very salty! I don't eat that salty. Even for my OH was salty, and he's usually adding a lot of salt on his plate. I combined it with mashed potatoes and sautéed carrots (which are rather sweet) to balance things out.
So I don't know what to say, it was OK but it's not something I'd choose if I have more options.
Not sure why Tom says 2 hours, maybe he's talking about self-smoked, which would probably be not pre-cooked at all? The packaging should contain instructions, it's usually 60-70 minutes for 1kg, plus or minus 10 minutes for each 100grams difference.

The result shouldn't be particularly salty, maybe not taking it out of the plastic makes the difference. Sour can be used to hide salty, but that shouldn't be the reason to serve Sauerkraut alongside, perhaps cut it up and add to a (undersalted) veggie soup instead.
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OK, sorry for not posting photos here but it wasn't really something special.
I had a piece of one kilo or so and it took less that 2 hours. It is tasty but very salty! I don't eat that salty. Even for my OH was salty, and he's usually adding a lot of salt on his plate. I combined it with mashed potatoes and sautéed carrots (which are rather sweet) to balance things out.
So I don't know what to say, it was OK but it's not something I'd choose if I have more options.
it is just boiled ham afterall...i think it's ok too...but i prefer to have bratwurst or to cook a pork chop...
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it is just boiled ham afterall...i think it's ok too...but i prefer to have bratwurst or to cook a pork chop...
I agree. But I used to know someone who made cooked ham in bread dough. I loved it.
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Was that a "Rollschinkli"? And was it "Aktion"?

Over the years I noticed each time they were on "Aktion" they were too salty (and I too add salt anywhere, can't live without it).


A few soakings .... hmmm, I might give it an another (one more ) chance.
No, I checked again their site and it was Nuss-Schinkli ohne Schwarte. No Aktion.
There were no instructions on the packing that's why I asked.

Maybe I should have soaked it before. Anyways, as I said, it's not bad and it's probably even better if you know how to prepare it.
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I have to say, having lived here for 6 months the food quality in restaurants are quite bad. I used to live in Hong Kong and New York, and the gastronomy experience in Switzerland has been firstly EXPENSIVE, and then disappointing.

I don't understand how a country this wealthy lacks something as simple as good food and good restaurants. And I mean this from fine dining restaurants to regular casual ones.

The best food I've had here are Indian curry from this Kiosk which costs about 12 CHF, when there are restaurants who have the audacity to charge 35 CHF for a small curry without rice.

Oh not to mention, cooking for yourself saves some money, but if you want any $meat$ in your dish, you might as well convince yourself to go vegan or go broke.
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Re: Switzerland Food is.....

Wow, I just posted the same thing before seeing this thread. I wont hold switzerland to the standards of some food meccas such as New York, Hong Kong, Tokyo, but the most infuriating part is that you cant even get good food even if you're willing to pay.

In general, food here is expensive, and disappointing. Normally I would be okay settling for one of them, and it also gets quite comedic when people try to defend the food here...Maybe that is why the food standards are the way it is now?
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can anyone recommend any good swiss restaurants in zürich that serve starter and main for chf 50?
Yes. See my post on page 4. Most of them will if you exclude the gourmet and Hato.

I tricked by the language when I first moved here when I saw a Fleischkäseweggli for sale. Hmmm thinks I, meat (probably ham) and cheese pasty. Sounds great. Blurgh. Horrible stuff that is nothing like Mortadella. The Wurstweggli from Coop is a good approximation of a Greggs sausage roll though.

On lard, I remember being given lard spread on bread as a bar snack with beer in Wroclaw. Nice stuff, but a bit heavy going. I had to politely decline a second round (of food).

I have no idea why anyone would want to eat tripe through choice. The smell seems to drive dogs wild though.
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Old 25.02.2021, 16:05
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I have no idea why anyone would want to eat tripe through choice.
We LOVE it!

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Oh not to mention, cooking for yourself saves some money, but if you want any $meat$ in your dish, you might as well convince yourself to go vegan or go broke.
We eat meat with pretty much every meal!

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Re: Switzerland Food is.....

So, after an elaborate rant by the OP, a few inconclusive follow ups and careful avoidance of naming those two (mildly exciting) restaurants which probably serve to illustrate a SRFR (Swiss restaurant failure rate) of 98 %, we are none the wiser.

On the other hand, some of us have been introduced to the Oat-Meal-Conundrum (Porridge/Gersten- and Schleimsuppe) while others could posit their aversion to Fleischkäse (luncheon meat in its various guises) and their ignorance of what it was made of. Sadly, the discussion has degenerated into devious praise of Schwartenmagen/head cheese, an even worse misnomer than Fleischkäse and personally, I have absolutely no inclination of delving into this abomination’s composition…

While I cannot confirm the SRFR of 98 %, I would generally agree with the OP that the higher the price, the risk of disappointment often increases exponentially. I suspect that this is the OP’s main issue, apart from being a person who refuses to disclose their “taste” in culinary matters and is therefore clearly a suspect individual
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The best food I've had here are Indian curry from this Kiosk which costs about 12 CHF, when there are restaurants who have the audacity to charge 35 CHF for a small curry without rice.
I'll see your Kiosk curry and raise a Knorr Asia Noodle...
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