Really, you finish your shift at 01:00 and some inconsiderate person starts making noise at 05:30 in the morning banging around the kitchen making coffee.

Many years ago, new neighbours to the side of me, had all their internal doors open, plus windows open and loud noises.


It was either a Friday or Saturday night, my work at the time was by an office, Monday to Friday.


In my sleep wear, I tiptoed out and put a very polite note, I thought, under their front door, to let them know they were keeping me awake at whatever am hour it was, I cannot now remember the words I said to request them to lower the noise a bit or if I suggested to shut at least the internal door closest to me


Maybe some say I should have got dressed and rang their bell to complain in front of their guests, that might have also disturbed other flats in my block, as I stated previously it is different how sounds travels.


Due to the disturbing , I was very late up the next day, afternoon.


Next day, some other neighbours, then let me know they had put my note on the Main Notice Board, with a comment something Like why had I not rang their bell and spoke to them face to face. I had not seen the note, as it had been removed by the time I went out the main front door.

Between 22:00 and 07:00 noise should be kept down. I turn the TV down at 22:00 or use headphones to watch TV etc.

If I was the neighbour, I would not have come down, but I would have just banged on the wall, that is the real Swiss way

It's the neighbor above. Presumably there's a thick concrete slab and lots of insulation due to the floor heating. I guess I'm an a**hole, will try to be less of an a**hole in the future.

Makes no difference as he clearly heard you The neighbour above me also has a concrete floor, but I always hear him "come" like a female dog. His woman makes zero noise, but he always moans non-stop! Starting to wonder who is shafting who
Or just visit my upstairs neighbour to sort out your a**hole

move to a stand alone house.

honestly all these neighbourly dispute posts .... don't choose live mingled with other people if you don't want to follow the rules designed to make doing so passable for all....

What did you do, Axa?

Kill them with kindness. There's no point in arguing with an angry person, even if you're in the right. (and you weren't...exactly)

Did you have your brother on a loud speaker and both of you raised voices? I am just asking because these types of conversations have become the norm in public in my area, somehow fashionable..trains, bus stops, you name it. Every time it happens I feel super awkward, but maybe youtubers and TikTokers have different idea of noise, privacy, even intimate life.

I am not saying that it's you. But you pay your rent and it's high in Switzerland. I think one off thing like that is ok. I wouldn't do it every week. If he can't wait to tell you in the morning then there is something else going on. In the midst of pandemics, people are expected to make unexpected family phonecalls, abroad and weird hours. Basta.

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After a bit of reflection, react like an idiot

I'd much rather be surrounded by loud occasional idiots than quiet passive aggressive all-the-time idiots. Keep it up!

These things happen ... it's obvious from your posts you're a decent person. Your neighbour just chose the wrong moment to cross you. Apologise and move on.

LOL reminds me of my MIL who is deaf as a rock. According to her, hearing aides are for old ppl and as long as she can hear what the news presenter on the tele says all is well

Trying to explain to her that she can only hear the TV because of the high volume totally fell on deaf ears

Nobody has complained though.

Exactly.

And maybe....move! Not just move on.

If you can hear your neighbours talking on the phone is obviously not ideal to live there - lack of privacy etc.
Some old buildings are so poorly insulated and maybe it was OK in the past when everyone was in bed at 10 p.m. but defo not now.

Lol, m-i-l is also a bit deaf but she hears everything when she wants. lol

Lol, you're too harsh with yourself. The thing with the neighbours is that we're gonna see or hear each other more often than we'd like so I'd personally try to keep things on friendly terms if possible.

The law says that quiet time is quiet. Exceptions are only made for unavoidable noise such as flushing the toilet (yes, that often touted rule is BS) or kids crying. A grown adult having a loud conversation is not "unavoidable". If they can hear you talking at 1 am, then they are well within their rights to complain.

That reminds of an Englishman who lived in one of the flats opposite. He would stand on his balcony and having shouting conversations, heavily sprinkled with profanity, over the phone to his employees. We called him Mr Shoutyman. He only did it during work hours. I met him a few times on the street and he seemed to be a very decent guy otherwise. When a neighbour's kid had been learning an ABBA song at school, she started singing at home. He heard her and put the album the song came from on his HiFi. She was so embarrassed!

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I get it. The limit is not some objective quantity of decibels, but "loud enough to be heard". That may work next time, for this one...war has started

Lol. Force majeure.

I can't tell, I live in the building packed with wonderful, half deaf top musicians. We do decibels but talk softly.

That's kinda cute..Wish it was King Crimson or Talking Heads, instead. While a shouty potty-mouth boss sounds like a proper god's gift, I like "community noises", tbh. It is a package of certain level of tolerance and neighborly help when needed.

Just place a Migros Budget chocolate (door step/letterbox) with a sorry note. Life is too long to have fights with neighbours.

My local friends and I swear by Coop Bio dark chocolate with orange bits.