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Old 02.03.2021, 14:00
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The case of the language certificate

*Start Rant* So you know, you know need a language certificate if you want to apply for a C permit... The Kanton requires it. And so my story starts with me taking a language test day last year, organized by the Kanton for another department (work related). I was very happy to get my A2 certificate with the Kanton stamp and all, so I thought great, I can apply for C permit now.. I think you see where this is going..

Fast forward many months and some monies later, I just got a final rejection from the Kanton, telling me that my A2 certificate from the Kanton is not valid in this case.. and I would have to produce an A2 certificate from somewhere else. What? It's a Kanton issued certificate, and the Kanton does not accept it's own certificate? Boo I say *End Rant* I am going end up being the longest B permiter in this country
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Old 02.03.2021, 14:09
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Re: The case of the language certificate

It´s (unfortunately for you) pretty clear which certificates are accepted?
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Old 02.03.2021, 14:12
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*Start Rant* So you know, you know need a language certificate if you want to apply for a C permit... The Kanton requires it. And so my story starts with me taking a language test day last year, organized by the Kanton for another department (work related). I was very happy to get my A2 certificate with the Kanton stamp and all, so I thought great, I can apply for C permit now.. I think you see where this is going..

Fast forward many months and some monies later, I just got a final rejection from the Kanton, telling me that my A2 certificate from the Kanton is not valid in this case.. and I would have to produce an A2 certificate from somewhere else. What? It's a Kanton issued certificate, and the Kanton does not accept it's own certificate? Boo I say *End Rant* I am going end up being the longest B permiter in this country
Until you accept that nothing about Swiss bureaucracy makes any sense - you are not integrated enough to get a C permit!
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Old 02.03.2021, 14:24
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Until you accept that nothing about Swiss bureaucracy makes any sense - you are not integrated enough to get a C permit!
That made me laugh
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Fast forward many months and some monies later, I just got a final rejection from the Kanton, telling me that my A2 certificate from the Kanton is not valid in this case.. and I would have to produce an A2 certificate from somewhere else. What? It's a Kanton issued certificate, and the Kanton does not accept it's own certificate?
But is it the Kanton? Normally Residence Permits are issued by the local Commune/Gemeinde, not directly by the Kanton, and they will have their own list of approved providers.

The fact that this list may not include some certificates that are accepted at the Kanton level for different purposes may seem crazy, but I'm sure it's not a deliberate policy, simply a result of the local authorities doing things independently from the Kantonal ones. Expecting them to coordinate across different functions within different authorities just for the sake of individual customer convenience is not something you can ever assume in Switzerland. It's your problem, not theirs; is all they'll say.

Of course, hindsight is great, and I'm sure we all sympathise, but you know now that you should have checked the list, rather than assuming the one you had would be acceptable.
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Old 02.03.2021, 14:43
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Of course, hindsight is great, and I'm sure we all sympathise, but you know now that you should have checked the list, rather than assuming the one you had would be acceptable.
Yes I know, the new rules came in last January... but still my certificate has the same letter head, the same Kanton and the same emails, it is very silly if you ask me

Anyway, it can be a lessons learnt for every one else, lucky you

For reference the full list of accepted certificate sources are https://fide-info.ch/doc/107/fideDE_...ertifikate.pdf
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Yes I know, the new rules came in last January... but still my certificate has the same letter head, the same Kanton and the same emails, it is very silly if you ask me

Anyway, it can be a lessons learnt for every one else, lucky you

For reference the full list of accepted certificate sources are https://fide-info.ch/doc/107/fideDE_...ertifikate.pdf
And for the non-german parts o the country...
https://fide-service.ch/doc/105/fide...tsReconnus.pdf
https://fide-service.ch/doc/129/fide...conosciuti.pdf
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Re: The case of the language certificate

I was always told that only language certificates from recognised institutes will be accepted.....And this was 2018
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*Start Rant* So you know, you know need a language certificate if you want to apply for a C permit... The Kanton requires it. And so my story starts with me taking a language test day last year, organized by the Kanton for another department (work related). I was very happy to get my A2 certificate with the Kanton stamp and all, so I thought great, I can apply for C permit now.. I think you see where this is going..

Fast forward many months and some monies later, I just got a final rejection from the Kanton, telling me that my A2 certificate from the Kanton is not valid in this case.. and I would have to produce an A2 certificate from somewhere else. What? It's a Kanton issued certificate, and the Kanton does not accept it's own certificate? Boo I say *End Rant* I am going end up being the longest B permiter in this country
LOL don't worry I am here since 2008 on B permit(by choice ), you still have time to get your certificate...
But yeah, seems rather unfair that they release language certificates that are then not accepted...
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But yeah, seems rather unfair that they release language certificates that are then not accepted...
I'm pretty sure, that their purpose is not to release a usable certificate, but to sell a certification service. So that makes a lot of sense for a bureaucrat.
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