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Re: Warning tricks makler large real estate agents beware when selling property.

Because as said earlier confirmed with mortgage provider gains per year at moment are chf30-60K per year.

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“ I refer to your letter and thank you for the trust you have placed in us.

Our legal advice is only available to subscribers. Nevertheless, in the sense of a one-time exception:
With the conclusion of a brokerage contract, the broker enters into a special loyalty relationship with his client (Art. 412 Para. 2 OR in conjunction with Art. 398 OR). The broker must put his own interests in the background and always act in the interests of his client. This circumstance obliges the broker to adhere to the principle of good faith and to carry out the order carefully. This duty of care would be violated, for example, if he knowingly and willingly inflict damage to the client because he deliberately procures the property at a price that is too low, although he could achieve a higher price. This difference would be the damage that a broker would have to compensate the client in principle.

So much for the principle and the theory. In practice there are often difficulties in providing evidence. This means that the client must be able to prove the above requirements in order to be able to enforce a claim for damages from the broker.

I recommend that you seek more detailed advice from a specialized lawyer. You can find a lawyer under the following link: https://www.sav-fsa.ch/de/anwaltssuche.html”

So he has not acted in the correct spirit.
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Re: Warning tricks makler large real estate agents beware when selling property.

I hate to be the bearer of what to me at least seems blatently obvious, but if another valuer said the house was worth 20% less than you sold it for I would say you have pretty much zero chance of proving you were 'conned' and your house was undersold.

Welcome to the world of estate agents where you can get a 5-10% variation in prices between 3 agents at any time - and that includes in the UK. If you then choose to go with the middle one you can't then complain you should have gone with the top price or even if you picked the top price that someone else would have given you more later.
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Old 19.03.2021, 09:25
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Because as said earlier confirmed with mortgage provider gains per year at moment are chf30-60K per year.
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Old 19.03.2021, 10:50
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You said you did some renovations. So I hope you got at least 2 quotes at the mimimum as otherwise how would you know what the right price range is.
I recently asked for work done to cut some branches of tall trees. Quotes (all from Swiss companies) received for cutting and removing branches were:

- 500 Fr (pauschal)
- 1500 Fr (est. 1 day of work for 1 person + removal service)
- 4500 Fr (est. 2 days of work for 2 people + removal service)
- 4700 Fr (est. 2 days of work for 2 people + removal service)
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I recently asked for work done to cut some branches of tall trees. Quotes (all from Swiss companies) received for cutting and removing branches were:

- 500 Fr (pauschal)
- 1500 Fr (est. 1 day of work for 1 person + removal service)
- 4500 Fr (est. 2 days of work for 2 people + removal service)
- 4700 Fr (est. 2 days of work for 2 people + removal service)
Which one did you accept? A fully integrated Swiss person would take the 4500 one as the 500/1500 are much too cheap & won't be Swiss quality.
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I recently asked for work done to cut some branches of tall trees. Quotes (all from Swiss companies) received for cutting and removing branches were:

- 500 Fr (pauschal)
- 1500 Fr (est. 1 day of work for 1 person + removal service)
- 4500 Fr (est. 2 days of work for 2 people + removal service)
- 4700 Fr (est. 2 days of work for 2 people + removal service)
Christ 1500 a day isnt a bad rate for a tree surgeon is it!
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Old 19.03.2021, 11:00
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Christ 1500 a day isnt a bad rate for a tree surgeon is it!
A painter will charge 1,000 it's more dangerous up a tree.
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I recently asked for work done to cut some branches of tall trees. Quotes (all from Swiss companies) received for cutting and removing branches were:

- 500 Fr (pauschal)
- 1500 Fr (est. 1 day of work for 1 person + removal service)
- 4500 Fr (est. 2 days of work for 2 people + removal service)
- 4700 Fr (est. 2 days of work for 2 people + removal service)
to be fair the 500 was from a gardening company that we were asking to do more major work and so i just asked them how much to do that extra thing. they threw it in as an additional item. maybe they save 500 in some synergies from the disposal/cleaning/etc. but the guy wasn't an expert on trees and i didn't trust that he really understood what needed to be done (or that the price wouldn't be higher when it was actually done in the end).

the other 3 were very knowledgeable. the higher 2 were typical swiss overkill quotes.

i went with the 1500 guy as i liked him and he understood exactly what needed doing. i was a bit surprised he did it alone with nobody helping him on the ground but i guess that increased his profits. it was also all done with handsaws so no noisy chainsaw either. work was 7.30am - 16.30pm with 2 hour break. so was 200/hour less the truck+2 people who came to remove the cuttings.
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Re: Warning tricks makler large real estate agents beware when selling property.



I don't think the UK is really the country to compare to in terms of the well-behaved estate agent. I was immediately reminded of this

"You are a disgrace to your profession!"

"Don't be ridiculous, I'm an estate agent "
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Which one did you accept? A fully integrated Swiss person would take the 4500 one as the 500/1500 are much too cheap & won't be Swiss quality.
Obviously that should depend on the tree.
Can't have a local-grown tree cut by a bunch of foreigners.
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