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I was just personally hurt by the word drama queen. But judging by the quote on the profile on the Instagram page of the Kita worker I am not surprised a she has a page on Insta with the quote ‘we are all bad in someone’s story’. Quite a role model for young kids just as a random observation.

If I could do it all over again I would raise my child in some Swiss mountain village where people don’t use the word drama queen for example.
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This happened to my older child...not the same word but similar. I did not think it was appropriate. Other kids heard and started calling her the same.

In parenting books I've read about being wary of labeling kids....the "smart" one, the "difficult" one, etc, as that can affect their behavior and make them feel they need to live up to their label whether good or bad.


You can try to talk to them, but don't have any expectations....sometimes you have to pick your battles here...
just read other comment about different cultural and parenting styles, and we very much feel that to be true.
Well the workers there are really young girls, usually standing outside chain smoking during their lunch break. I just noticed they are young.
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It is also telling that you call the Kita worker a "girl" when complaining how she allegedly was being disrespectful to your kid.

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I was just personally hurt by the word drama queen. But judging by the quote on the profile on the Instagram page of the Kita worker I am not surprised a she has a page on Insta with the quote ‘we are all bad in someone’s story’. Quite a role model for young kids just as a random observation.

If I could do it all over again I would raise my child in some Swiss mountain village where people don’t use the word drama queen for example.
The irony of course being that are now being a... yup you guessed it... a drama queen.

Also, researching young people on Instagram to then make judgements about them, all because they got annoyed with your daughter who misbehaved then cried? I mean seriously, get a grip you lunatic.

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Old 22.03.2021, 16:15
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If I could do it all over again I would raise my child in some Swiss mountain village where people don’t use the word drama queen for example.
You would prefer hysterisches Gör then?

I do wish you that this was the worst that you or your daughters will ever have to endure. Somehow I doubt that.
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I was just personally hurt by the word drama queen. But judging by the quote on the profile on the Instagram page of the Kita worker I am not surprised a she has a page on Insta with the quote ‘we are all bad in someone’s story’. Quite a role model for young kids just as a random observation.
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Oh goodness, that happens when we write edgy things on social media. I hope you won't stalk her...

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Well the workers there are really young girls, usually standing outside chain smoking during their lunch break. I just noticed they are young.
Probably some of them are Praktikantinen/trainees and rather insufficiently payed. I'd give them one more chance. If your expectations are not met perhaps it's high time to look somewhere else or hire a nanny.
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Old 22.03.2021, 16:31
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I was just personally hurt by the word drama queen. But judging by the quote on the profile on the Instagram page of the Kita worker I am not surprised a she has a page on Insta with the quote ‘we are all bad in someone’s story’. Quite a role model for young kids just as a random observation.

If I could do it all over again I would raise my child in some Swiss mountain village where people don’t use the word drama queen for example.

Well the workers there are really young girls, usually standing outside chain smoking during their lunch break. I just noticed they are young.
Are you seriously stalking the "girl" on Instagram to pass judgement on her? That's a bit weird.

Drama queen is not a big deal in German, as is often the case when people pick up an expression from a different language and use it how they think it is used rather than its intended use.

This may not be accurate but here is how you are currently coming across and, by extension, how I would estimate your child to be: snobbish, thrives on drama and having a tendency to blame others for negative attention. Again, this is how it is coming across, I know nothing about you or what is going on in your life that elicits such a frankly disproportionate response. It just doesn't strike me as a helpful approach to take if you want to survive the Swiss school system with your sanity intact.
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Old 22.03.2021, 16:49
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I was just personally hurt by the word drama queen. But judging by the quote on the profile on the Instagram page of the Kita worker I am not surprised a she has a page on Insta with the quote ‘we are all bad in someone’s story’. Quite a role model for young kids just as a random observation.

If I could do it all over again I would raise my child in some Swiss mountain village where people don’t use the word drama queen for example.

Well the workers there are really young girls, usually standing outside chain smoking during their lunch break. I just noticed they are young.
I call my daughter a drama queen almost everyday. I don't think it has a bad connotation like you are suggesting? There are worse names to call a child who is misbehaving ...

And yes, most of the Kita workers are quite young and smoke during their breaks. A good Kita should have a mix of old and young staff members, but looking after a bunch of young children all day is hard work, which is why it is less appealing to older people. I know I couldn't do it, which is why I have a lot of respect for the Kita workers.
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Old 22.03.2021, 17:46
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Regarding 'Swiss mountain village', I guarantee you that neither you nor your daughter would last 5 minutes
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Old 22.03.2021, 17:48
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Regarding 'Swiss mountain village', I guarantee you that neither you nor your daughter would last 5 minutes
You'd learn the word "Tussi" real fast.
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Old 22.03.2021, 17:50
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Re: Awful people working at Kita

I liked Schnepfe, not sure if that is used in Switzerland as well? (Mostly used for women, not kids)
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Old 22.03.2021, 19:00
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Re: Awful people working at Kita

Drama-queen exists in both German and English.


The German Wiktionary defines it this way (translated to English):


German version:

Person who repeatedly makes small things seem much more significant/worse than they are (dramatizes) in order to be the center of attention


English version:

someone who gets too upset or angry over small problems:



So, yes, the meaning is different when used in German or English.
But based on what you have described, both meanings may be absolutely appropriate to a 4.5 year old who is behaving as you have described.



I must say I didn't like the staff using it to describe a 1 year old.... but at 4.5 she may well be able to absorb some responsiblity for over-reacting or wanting to be the centre of attention...
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Old 22.03.2021, 19:02
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I must say I didn't like the staff using it to describe a 1 year old.... but at 4.5 she may well be able to absorb some responsiblity for over-reacting or wanting to be the centre of attention...
What about "Don't act like a baby?". It seems to work with mine.

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This happened to my older child...not the same word but similar. I did not think it was appropriate. Other kids heard and started calling her the same.

In parenting books I've read about being wary of labeling kids....the "smart" one, the "difficult" one, etc, as that can affect their behavior and make them feel they need to live up to their label whether good or bad.


You can try to talk to them, but don't have any expectations....sometimes you have to pick your battles here...

just read other comment about different cultural and parenting styles, and we very much feel that to be true.
I agree. However, each of us has said the "wrong" thing at times so I wouldn't judge anyone too harsh.
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Old 22.03.2021, 19:19
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Drama-queen exists in both German and English.


The German Wiktionary defines it this way (translated to English):


German version:

Person who repeatedly makes small things seem much more significant/worse than they are (dramatizes) in order to be the center of attention


English version:

someone who gets too upset or angry over small problems:



So, yes, the meaning is different when used in German or English.
But based on what you have described, both meanings may be absolutely appropriate to a 4.5 year old who is behaving as you have described.



I must say I didn't like the staff using it to describe a 1 year old.... but at 4.5 she may well be able to absorb some responsiblity for over-reacting or wanting to be the centre of attention...
I am English but would think the German version was the better or first definition.
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Re: Awful people working at Kita

well, I wouldn't be happy if somebody called my daughter "drama queen" in English. Don't know German that well to judge...

OP, you seem rather upset. If you dislike the person that much I guess you should change the KITA.

But, as Olygirl mentioned maybe you should discuss the issue with the employee first. If it does not help then management. It does not sound very realistic to me to keep changing educational institutions and child's environment unless the child is seriously negatively impacted.

I have an impression you are probably rightly distressed (e.g. it would have been better for the person in question first discuss the issue with you rather than being impatient/passive-aggressive/whatever - we don't know the details how things developed) but getting even more annoyed rather than calming down and dealing with the issue (both with KITA and your daughter) does not appear very productive or beneficial to anybody.
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well, I wouldn't be happy if somebody called my daughter "drama queen" in English..
I would.

I mean my daughters - not yours. Obviously I've never met her. But mine - definitely. Drama -> crisis. Molehill -> mountain. Tough, beautiful, intelligent - oh yes!
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Re: Awful people working at Kita

One of the biggest challenges in dealing with children is to learn how to motivate them not with shame blame or guilt which is quite common in many schools.(even businesses) I had to learn how to motivate my children. One one was different. So different things motivate different children. It takes effort.

Yes, maybe your child was being noisy. The leader should take her aside and talk to her and if she persists then she talks to the parents.
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Some people are OK with this sort of labels, which btw I haven't heard anyone complaining about this so far, but are not OK with teachers suggesting their children should improve certain things which are essential for their current and future education. I personally find it amusing because labels never helped anyone.
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Regarding 'Swiss mountain village', I guarantee you that neither you nor your daughter would last 5 minutes
I was just thinking the same I live in the mountains and some of the locals can be really bloody mean
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I was just thinking the same I live in the mountains and some of the locals can be really bloody mean
I wouldn't say mean. Direct. It is a different way to be polite. Indirectness is impolite in these situations, I think. Or unconstructive.
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Is it just me or do others also find it slightly shocking that your child gets called drama queen, by a Kita worker?!
Depends on if she is a drama queen.

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Re: Awful people working at Kita

Kitas are definitely not all crap around here-- that's a terrible generalization. It sounds like that employee could use more training about how to interact with children. It is certainly appropriate to chat with the director of the kita.
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