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NotAllThere 27.03.2021 17:48

Irresponsible Stupidity
 
Today, a fully grown adult was cycling on the pavement. A tram pulled up at the tram stop. She didn't slow down, and her body whacked my hand as she shot past. There's no gap between the tram and the pavement. She didn't stop. Didn't apologise. Didn't, apparently react.

So stupid, so irresponsible. I hope the police catch her before she injures someone. or herself.

Fortunately, I'm uninjured except for slight bruising on my hand where I was whacked.

olygirl 27.03.2021 17:57

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Originally Posted by NotAllThere (Post 3290379)
Today, a fully grown adult was cycling on the pavement. A tram pulled up at the tram stop. She didn't slow down, and her body whacked my hand as she shot past. There's no gap between the tram and the pavement. She didn't stop. Didn't apologise. Didn't, apparently react.

So stupid, so irresponsible. I hope the police catch her before she injures someone. or herself.

Fortunately, I'm uninjured except for slight bruising on my hand where I was whacked.

Glad you're OK.

NotAllThere 27.03.2021 17:59

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Me too. If I'd been moving a bit quicker, it wouldn't have ended well. Not sure who would have been worse off. I'm not small.

I know most cyclists are fine. We only notice those who aren't!

Ch108 27.03.2021 18:25

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Good to hear all ok with you.

Massa 27.03.2021 20:38

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That sucks! If you did want to try and do something about it the tram has CCTV. No idea about how or if the police would request it or would even consider investigating but it could be an option nonetheless.

bowlie 27.03.2021 20:49

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If I were you Id report it to the police. If the culprit takes the same route around the same time of day ...

Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

araqyl 27.03.2021 23:00

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Originally Posted by Massa (Post 3290407)
That sucks! If you did want to try and do something about it the tram has CCTV. No idea about how or if the police would request it or would even consider investigating but it could be an option nonetheless.

The thing to recall about public transport CCTV is that you need to report it fast, as they only keep three days of recordings.

AbFab 27.03.2021 23:46

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The trick is to catch the handlebar on one side. They will simply fall off...

greenmount 28.03.2021 10:08

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Originally Posted by NotAllThere (Post 3290383)
I know most cyclists are fine. We only notice those who aren't!

Will that be added at the end of any complaint? :rofl: :msnsarcastic:

Don't worry, you're entitled to your feelings.

I am a cyclist but I'm one of the responsible ones. Because I also drive. And walk.

bowlie 28.03.2021 11:41

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Where my wife works the police were ticketing cyclists riding the wrong way on a one-way street. Theyve stopped that, now they ride the wrong way on the sidewalk/pavement. Police have disappeared.

evop 28.03.2021 15:37

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Originally Posted by AbFab (Post 3290449)
The trick is to catch the handlebar on one side. They will simply fall off...

Don't, it's not worth it and may lead to a lot of trouble.

Riders might be wrong in the first place, but if you take an action to harm them, rather then to avoid harm, that's on you (both legally and morally - there are some ways to get even, but not Lynching). My employee is paying (and will keep paying for a lifetime) about 3k monthly to a biker, who he decided to "teach good manners", when said biker didn't give him way and forced to step back from a pedestrian crossing, but overdone the lesson and provoked his fall and serious injuries.

NotAllThere 28.03.2021 18:40

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Originally Posted by bowlie (Post 3290411)
If I were you I’d report it to the police. If the culprit takes the same route around the same time of day ...

Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

That's what my son and daughter-in-law said. It'd mean a trip into Basel... I wonder if my daughter is free. She speaks the dialect like a native.

slammer 28.03.2021 19:03

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I have my problems with cyclists, especially those that infest Munich, seriously these buggers are totally unaware of traffic other than a bicycle and that in a one on one with a car they will get the pointy end. But Munich sells its self as a bicycle friendly city, so they think that the world of Munich traffic revolves around the bicycle and woe betide the poor driver who gets in the righteous way of some situation unaware rider of a wire donkey, the wrath of the law will can your ass.
First driving around Munich I joked that a Munich cyclist would have a life expectancy of around five minutes on Malta. Im not joking anymore, amma by now paranoid when I see a bike and have whiplash of the neck from constantly looking for these two wheeled death machines.
Somehow I just know that Ill have one as a bonnet ornament one day and that day is going to suck.

Tom1234 28.03.2021 20:10

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Originally Posted by greenmount (Post 3290476)

I am a cyclist but I'm one of the responsible ones. Because I also drive. And walk.

That was a pretty dumb statement...

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greenmount 28.03.2021 20:18

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Originally Posted by Tom1234 (Post 3290571)
That was a pretty dumb statement...

Aww, it didn't take long. I drive and I know from experience that some cyclists behave like shit in traffic so I avoid making the same mistakes. I'm prudent when I drive and notice them because frankly I worry for them. Like OP, I walked many times and was almost knocked down by some idiot that had no idea about rules or that there are people around. So there, perhaps before posting that you should have asked what I meant.
Slammer is right, I totally agree with him. I don't think it happens only in Munich though.

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Originally Posted by slammer (Post 3290554)
I have my problems with cyclists, especially those that infest Munich, seriously these buggers are totally unaware of traffic other than a bicycle and that in a one on one with a car they will get the pointy end. But Munich sells its self as a bicycle friendly city, so they think that the world of Munich traffic revolves around the bicycle and woe betide the poor driver who gets in the righteous way of some situation unaware rider of a wire donkey, the wrath of the law will can your ass.
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If you are a cyclist don't worry I'm not saying all are bad. lol

bowlie 28.03.2021 20:41

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It isnt the idiot that doesnt know the rules that is the problem. Its the idiot that knows the rules but thinks they dont apply to them that is the problem.

k_and_e 28.03.2021 20:41

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Is this the first chapter of the adventures of the farmer from Basel-Land, who went to the big city Basel-Stadt?

slammer 28.03.2021 20:51

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Originally Posted by k_and_e (Post 3290580)
Is this the first chapter of the adventures of the farmer from Basel-Land, who went to the big city Basel-Stadt?

No, he got confused when changing from horse and buggy to the tram.

MusicChick 28.03.2021 20:54

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Originally Posted by k_and_e (Post 3290580)
Is this the first chapter of the adventures of the farmer from Basel-Land, who went to the big city Basel-Stadt?

You mean the cyclist, right?

Tom1234 28.03.2021 20:56

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Originally Posted by greenmount (Post 3290572)
Aww, it didn't take long. I drive and I know from experience that some cyclists behave like shit in traffic so I avoid making the same mistakes. I'm prudent when I drive and notice them because frankly I worry for them. Like OP, I walked many times and was almost knocked down by some idiot that had no idea about rules or that there are people around. So there, perhaps before posting that you should have asked what I meant.
Slammer is right, I totally agree with him. I don't think it happens only in Munich though.

That's not quite the same as what you originally wrote.

I'm sure there are many cyclists who have never driven a car who know the rules of the road, can appreciate how it is for for other road users and are safe.

But, if I were to use your original argument - I must be a better driver than you as I have driven a lorry a few times so am very aware of how much of the road they need when they are pulling out of a side junction, for example. am also aware of their blind spots of a lorry and when I drive a car I make allowances for that.

Most car drivers don't seem to have a clue when it comes to the needs of other drivers in bigger vehicles.

I've towed a trailer a few times too....

I've ridden a motorbike too so when driving, I know to keep a sharp look out for bikes when I'm pulling out a side road as they are not always easy to see.

I bet there are loads of car drivers who are complete arses on bicycles...


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