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I get the impression that OP called them to enquire about the "ban", that's how their reply makes sense.
This was my understanding also.

OP seems to be fretting about if he complains to the owner that the employees will want to get some revenge on him.
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Old 26.05.2021, 05:51
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At the end of the day I've no problem wearing a mask on the train or in the supermarket but it's disproportionate to ask someone to wear them all day in that environment.
Actually no, it's not 'disproportionate' to mandate all-day mask wearing for people dealing with food served to the public, specifically during a pandemic where the restrictions are there to protect the public.

It's damn uncomfortable for whoever has to do it... but disproportionate? I think you misuse the word there or don't fully understand the inplications.
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Old 26.05.2021, 08:01
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Actually no, it's not 'disproportionate' to mandate all-day mask wearing for people dealing with food served to the public, specifically during a pandemic where the restrictions are there to protect the public.

It's damn uncomfortable for whoever has to do it... but disproportionate? I think you misuse the word there or don't fully understand the inplications.
I think it is proportionate to mandate mask wearing during food handling.

But I agree it would be unreasonable to expect someone to wear a mask all day, and then the employer needs to allow breaks and/or rotate staff to mitigate this.
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Old 26.05.2021, 08:13
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But I agree it would be unreasonable to expect someone to wear a mask all day, and then the employer needs to allow breaks and/or rotate staff to mitigate this.
Obviously the handling and working with customers and food is the direct context of what we are talking about and the mandate should be applied at all times throughout the day while doing so.

Of course employees should have some form of breaks during the day where they can then remove the masks to eat and drink or whatever, I don't think we need to specifically spell that kind of common sense stuff out.
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Old 26.05.2021, 08:15
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...while they are directly handling and working with food? Obviously this is the context of what we are talking about and the mandate should be applied at all times.

Obviously employees have some form of breaks during the day, I don't think we need to specifically state that.
Huh?

Clearly on their break they wouldn't be handling and working with food, and they should be in an area where mask wearing is not required.
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Huh?

Clearly on their break they wouldn't be handling and working with food, and they should be in an area where mask wearing is not required.
Please learn to read context as obviously I was not saying they should be forced to wear a mask during breaks when there is no requirement to do so and I slightly edited my post immediately after submitting it to make it even more clear.

Lets apply some basic common sense to these discussions please.
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But the problem is that is not a case of live and let live, it’s a case of live and let die! Carelessness or indifference that leads to the spread of the virus impacts us all, from restricting our freedom due to lockdowns, to availability of intensive care treatment and postponement of treatments etc.

I have no problem in people doing their own thing so long as it does not stop the rest of us from doing our thing.
I understand- I’m at risk myself and very pro-measures and pro-masks. Perhaps my sympathy to OP was completely lost when he made sure to point out that the employees were “non-Swiss”.

I’m honestly just very sick of the divide this whole pandemic has caused - people yelling at people for not wearing masks, people yelling about their “freedom” for being asked to wear one. Adults behaving like children, conspiracy theorists, protests in the streets. I’m just sick of it all - when is it going to end?
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Old 26.05.2021, 08:32
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Re: Got banned from local store for demanding a mask

LOL! Thanks! I'll try my best
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Old 26.05.2021, 08:34
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I understand- I’m at risk myself and very pro-measures and pro-masks. Perhaps my sympathy to OP was completely lost when he made sure to point out that the employees were “non-Swiss”.
Yeah, well, truth to be told the Swiss do adhere more to the rules..... Perhaps he should have mentioned their perceived nationalities?

Even if he is a racist it doesn't mean he's got no point....lol

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I’m honestly just very sick of the divide this whole pandemic has caused - people yelling at people for not wearing masks, people yelling about their “freedom” for being asked to wear one. Adults behaving like children, conspiracy theorists, protests in the streets. I’m just sick of it all - when is it going to end?
I'm very sick of people complaining of every ing little unpleasant thing, no, not even unpleasant, just completely avoidable and ignorable.

@OP,

just don't buy from there anymore. Or complain to the owner/manager. Stop with this paranoia nonsense, nobody is after you.

The non-Swiss are people like everyone else. I don't think you'll be popular over there, but no, no-one will assault you.
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Old 26.05.2021, 08:40
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I don't think we need to specifically spell that kind of common sense stuff out.
Wrong, Richdog. It is critical to make sure the rules in this case are written down and unambiguous. The minute you rely on “common sense”, you start on down the same road as Bozo Johnson and the Covid death toll in the UK which is the worst in Europe and currently double the total UK civilian deaths due to enemy activity for the whole of WW2.
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Old 26.05.2021, 09:07
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Yeah, well, truth to be told the Swiss do adhere more to the rules..... Perhaps he should have mentioned their perceived nationalities?
Yea, I'm sure OP thought the Swiss were above refusing to wear masks and adhere to Corona regulations ...

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/protest...olicy/46640980

My elderly neighbor recently scolded me for not folding my carton recycling properly & meanwhile scolded me for wearing a mask... so, yea.
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Re: Got banned from local store for demanding a mask

This sounds like a case of wanting to be 'more Swiss than the Swiss'

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Try starting by not being a racist.

You probably give of the wrong vibe.

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I’m talking about real crimes ... like theft, injury & the like - not someone not pushing up their mask the right way. Y’all have clearly been residing in your little bubble for far too long.
Err you don't get to pick and choose which crimes are important purely on your opinion - its either a crime or it isnt.

You FFS'd them - you were wrong.
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Err you don't get to pick and choose which crimes are important purely on your opinion - its either a crime or it isnt.

You FFS'd them - you were wrong.
That little "FFS" was said with the same amount of seriousness and humor as shown in the image. (If you haven't seen the show, Derry Girls has made me laugh countless times in the past months.)

Give it a watch on Netflix - I think we all need to lighten up a bit and have some fun, life is far too short ... happy hump day everyone!
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That little "FFS" was said with the same amount of seriousness and humor as shown in the image. (If you haven't seen the show, Derry Girls has made me laugh countless times in the past months.)

Give it a watch on Netflix - I think we all need to lighten up a bit and have some fun, life is far too short ... happy hump day everyone!
Make some serious-sounding posts and then tell other people to "lighten up and have some fun because life's to short" when challenged... that is some impressive gaslighting you are doing there.
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Make some serious-sounding posts and then tell other people to "lighten up and have some fun because life's to short" when challenged... that is some impressive gaslighting you are doing there.
All of my posts in this thread have been in relation to having perspective and to lighten up. You too Chuff should try and have some fun besides picking on your favorites and newbies on EF.

When challenged, I am very happy to admit if I'm wrong and apologize.
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Old 26.05.2021, 11:03
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Err you don't get to pick and choose which crimes are important purely on your opinion - its either a crime or it isnt.

You FFS'd them - you were wrong.
www.ffs.ch

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Old 26.05.2021, 11:46
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Private citizens are not police officers - their only duty is to inform those who can enforce the law or ask the person who is abusing the law to stop. If both of those actions are ignored - then you move on. FFS - this isn't someone committing an actual crime here.
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All of my posts in this thread have been in relation to having perspective and to lighten up. You too Chuff should try and have some fun besides picking on your favorites and newbies on EF.

When challenged, I am very happy to admit if I'm wrong and apologize.
you were wrong on the law, you haven't apologized.
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Old 26.05.2021, 11:54
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you were wrong on the law, you haven't apologized.
LOL - I clearly explained what I meant by "crime":

"I’m talking about real crimes ... like theft, injury & the like - not someone not pushing up their mask the right way."

Goodness, people are delicate these days ...
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LOL - I clearly explained what I meant by "crime":

"I’m talking about real crimes ... like theft, injury & the like - not someone not pushing up their mask the right way."

Goodness, people are delicate these days ...
nope, you cant chose whats a crime or not.
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