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Old 08.06.2021, 14:03
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When I was a teen our parents used to set a curfew and we were required to give full details of the places and people we're going to hang with (which of course we sometimes did, sometimes not lol )....might be called child abuse these days. But overall we were much more malleable, I think. The naughtiest thing I remember of was to provoke teachers to own their shit, was a dorky child who used to read more than your average schooler. I was still grounded for that lol.
My parents and teachers to were pretty strict about what we could and could not do .

We did a lot of shit anyway and they either genuinely didn’t know or turned a blind eye .

Sometimes it can be better to pretend you’re dumber than you are
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Old 08.06.2021, 14:27
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In some countries, those 'baby-faced teenagers in tracksuits' that you laugh at make life for others a misery, engage in constant vandalism and even beat the crap out of (or worse) to people. To say they can't be intimidating or dangerous to people is just crazily naive.
Back in home country kidnappings for ransom are a daily thing, should I import my traumas to bourgeois Switzerland? My traumas should be shared by anyone!!!. In other countries I have the skin color which is interpreted as a target for the police, should I be afraid of the police? To say the police cannot be intimidating is naive.

Also possible that I might die one day from stubbornness. Several times in the past the crap has been beat out of me after a few beers and talking
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Old 08.06.2021, 14:29
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My parents and teachers to were pretty strict about what we could and could not do .

We did a lot of shit anyway and they either genuinely didn’t know or turned a blind eye .

Sometimes it can be better to pretend you’re dumber than you are
Of course they did. Depending on the nature of "infraction".

Vandalising is disturbing, unacceptable. I wonder what can police do here. I'm sure they're careful not to be seen when they do what they do.
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Back in home country kidnappings for ransom are a daily thing, should I import my traumas to bourgeois Switzerland? My traumas should be shared by anyone!!!. In other countries I have the skin color which is interpreted as a target for the police, should I be afraid of the police? To say the police cannot be intimidating is naive.
Seriously, what on earth are you talking about? I am talking about the specific context of teenagers in tracksuits causing trouble and intimidating or harassing people, not your previous experiences with racial profiling by the police. They are two completely separate topics and if you can't understand or appreciate how people could be intimidated by groups of angry teens then I think you have genuinely lost the plot.

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Several times in the past the crap has been beat out of me after a few beers and talking
Well, I am sorry you were beaten up but you do seem to talk a lot of crap...
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Old 08.06.2021, 14:43
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Seriously, what on earth are you talking about? I am talking about the specific context of teenagers in tracksuits causing trouble, not your previous experiences with racial profiling by the police. They are two completely separate topics
Why worry of baby-faced teenagers in tracksuits? Don't be afraid, ask them a lighter, open a beer and say hoi Zäme to the group. They don't bite. This is the greatest risk:

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Why worry of baby-faced teenagers in tracksuits? Don't be afraid, ask them a lighter, open a beer and say hoi Zäme to the group. They don't bite.
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Old 08.06.2021, 14:48
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*nods slowly*
Share you experience and wisdom to make me afraid of the world, I have plenty of popcorn.
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Share you experience and wisdom to make me afraid of the world, I have plenty of popcorn.
If you cannot understand why other people are intimidated by groups of youths in tracksuits drinking and acting aggressively, then you certainly aren't a rational guy when it comes to this topic, so lets just agree to disagree and not waste any of each others time.
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Old 08.06.2021, 15:22
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If you cannot understand why other people are intimidated by groups of youths in tracksuits drinking and acting aggressively, then you certainly aren't a rational guy when it comes to this topic, so lets just agree to disagree and not waste any of each others time.
Ahhhh feelings, I thought it was a rational issue. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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If you cannot understand why other people are intimidated by groups of youths in tracksuits drinking and acting aggressively, then you certainly aren't a rational guy when it comes to this topic, so lets just agree to disagree and not waste any of each others time.
Just go in back in the house and lock the main door

I was last Friday on a romantic walk by the lake. On the way back a huge police force was sending home a huge crowd of young who occupied botanical gardens(i hope i got the name of the place right).
Police was not afraid of them, I was not afraid of them, even the nice young lady accompanying me was not afraid of them. But I was appealed by low esthetics of their fashion.
I am really wondering from what kind of countries some of you are coming that you are so afraid of other people? They must be some real shitholes where no one tackle social problems and there is irreconcilable division between poor and reach. Were you living in gated communities? Having gangs on the streets? I can assure you, Switzerland is far from that, the worst are football fans, and even they are very civilized.
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Re: Increased vandalism and 'unsocial' behaviour around Seefeld

Funny, because my husband and I occasionally smirk when we see the obnoxious teens here and make snide comments on how badly they would get beat up back where we come from ...

Swiss teens for the most part are decent ... violence really is not appreciated in Swiss society (which is a good thing). But do keep in mind that not everyone is raised here and there have been some recent sad incidents with individuals getting beat up late at night in Zurich (mainly gay men). Switzerland isn't paradise, it still has its faults like anywhere else.
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Funny, because my husband and I occasionally smirk when we see the obnoxious teens here and make snide comments on how badly they would get beat up back where we come from ...

Swiss teens for the most part are decent ... violence really is not appreciated in Swiss society (which is a good thing). But do keep in mind that not everyone is raised here and there have been some recent sad incidents with individuals getting beat up late at night in Zurich (mainly gay men). Switzerland isn't paradise, it still has its faults like anywhere else.
I thought violence isn't appreciated anywhere!

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Just go in back in the house and lock the main door

I was last Friday on a romantic walk by the lake. On the way back a huge police force was sending home a huge crowd of young who occupied botanical gardens(i hope i got the name of the place right).
Police was not afraid of them, I was not afraid of them, even the nice young lady accompanying me was not afraid of them. But I was appealed by low esthetics of their fashion.
I am really wondering from what kind of countries some of you are coming that you are so afraid of other people? They must be some real shitholes where no one tackle social problems and there is irreconcilable division between poor and reach. Were you living in gated communities? Having gangs on the streets? I can assure you, Switzerland is far from that, the worst are football fans, and even they are very civilized.
What a good post.
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I thought violence isn't appreciated anywhere!
Um, people just paid way too much money to watch an idiotic YouTuber and a championship boxer fight...

Jokes aside, fist fights among youths is completely normal where I come from. Most men going through life know when not to say or do certain things because it would result in a good punch in the face.
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I am really wondering from what kind of countries some of you are coming that you are so afraid of other people? They must be some real shitholes where no one tackle social problems and there is irreconcilable division between poor and reach. Were you living in gated communities? Having gangs on the streets? I can assure you, Switzerland is far from that, the worst are football fans, and even they are very civilized.
Honestly guys, I think that some of you were dropped on the head a few too many times as a kid.

All I am saying is that if a person cannot understand why other people are intimidated by groups of drunken youths acting aggressively, shouting and smashing things up... then that person is probably more than a little stupid. Obviously many people will be and are intimidated by that kind of behaviour when they are exposed to it.
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Honestly guys, I think that some of you were dropped on the head a few too many times as a kid.
All I am saying is that if a person cannot understand why other people are intimidated by groups of drunken youths acting aggressively, shouting and smashing things up... then that person is probably more than a little stupid. Obviously many people will be and are intimidated by that kind of behaviour when they are exposed to it.
Boring, you don't even dare to tell people in the face that you think they are stupid. I suggest you ti fix it. Have you ever thought that you have some mild form of agoraphobia or enochlophobia?
Btw, I don't think you are stupid or that you fell on the head as a child, let alone repeatedly. But I do think that you are overacting and that you don't rationally think about dangers of every day life. Cheers
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In some countries, those 'baby-faced teenagers in tracksuits' that you laugh at make life for others a misery, engage in constant vandalism and even beat the crap out of (or worse) to people. To say they can't be intimidating or dangerous to people is just crazily naive.

Exactly - you see the same 'baby-faced teenagers' in London happily stabbing someone over looking at someone the wrong way. If it's not stamped on hard initially it's only likely to get worse.
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how badly they would get beat up back where we come from ...
Youngster from Züri would be beaten up in Bern ? must be the violent capital mood!

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afraid of them. But I was appealed by low esthetics of their fashion.
I think you made a typo and you meant aroused. To each one its own ...
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Um, people just paid way too much money to watch an idiotic YouTuber and a championship boxer fight...
Probably produced in the country you come from. Where people still know how to really beat people up, and worse.
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Risk averse boomers shut down the world over an exaggerated flu....then complain that youngsters (who have missed out on so much over the last 1.5 years) let off some steam after a miserable cold and wet spring comes to an end. Just can't please some people!
Agree

And these same boomers are the ones who have inflated national debts which the youngsters will have to bear the burden for
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Boring, you don't even dare to tell people in the face that you think they are stupid. I suggest you ti fix it. Have you ever thought that you have some mild form of agoraphobia or enochlophobia?
Btw, I don't think you are stupid or that you fell on the head as a child, let alone repeatedly. But I do think that you are overacting and that you don't rationally think about dangers of every day life. Cheers
I am overreacting... for simply understanding something as perfectly logical and reasonable as why many people would feel intimidated by groups of drunken and aggressive youths shouting and smashing stuff? Such a basic understanding of psychology means I have... agrophobia?

Truly the levels of naivety and/or brainlessness on this forum knows no bounds.

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Exactly - you see the same 'baby-faced teenagers' in London happily stabbing someone over looking at someone the wrong way. If it's not stamped on hard initially it's only likely to get worse.
Yup, it's in the UK news every week. Switzerland is of course nowhere near as bad as the UK for this stuff and I would never claim otherwise, but anyone who is naive and/or deluded enough to think they are somehow invulnerable to a group of drunken and/or loud and aggressive youths in any country has some clear delusions of grandeur or lacks some very basic self-preservation instincts. Or maybe some of the ninnies in the thread just don't get the obvious context of this discussion which is specifically referring referring to drunken and/or loud and aggressive groups of youths engaging in social disorder?

We aren't talking about "nice and polite groups of youths minding their own business" here.

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Over the past 2-3 months it seems to have gotten worse and more sinister. On any given Friday/Saturday evening when it is warm; there is much more intimidation, shouting, smashed bottles and even damage to property & cars.

This week alone we've had people trying to kick the doors in at the Frieis Gymnasium Zurich school, Spitex cars tipped over, parked cars being damaged and reports of wing mirrors being kicked off...I notice alot more police driving up and down but they're usually too late to any reports of things kicking off. Living on the ground floor means we're even more exposed as our bedrooms face the streets - usually you just hear laughing and shouting as they smash stuff.
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