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Newly moved here from France, expat USA. Temporarily living in a apartment complex in Canton Vaud. Was shocked to notice that only “official” white plastic garbage bags are approved to be disposed of in public déchèterie ! Not available in local village. Used the usual black 60 L one yesterday. This morning went to the same dumpster saw that my black bag had been removed ( garbage and all) and placed next to the dumpster! I obviously threw it back in further behind the rest of the white “official” trash bags. Interesting to see if some Nazi-like oberfurher will dumpster dive. Any similar experiences?
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Newly moved here from France, expat USA. Temporarily living in a apartment complex in Canton Vaud. Was shocked to notice that only “official” white plastic garbage bags are approved to be disposed of in public déchèterie ! Not available in local village. Used the usual black 60 L one yesterday. This morning went to the same dumpster saw that my black bag had been removed ( garbage and all) and placed next to the dumpster! I obviously threw it back in further behind the rest of the white “official” trash bags. Interesting to see if some Nazi-like oberfurher will dumpster dive. Any similar experiences?
This is how you pay for the service of trash collection. Have you got a post office or grocery store in your village. Most of the time, you can purchase an official bag from these locations. If not, check with your local admin/commune, I think (gemeinde in German). I’m from the US too, but I find this to be just the way in which trash services are paid for here.
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Newly moved here from France, expat USA. Temporarily living in a apartment complex in Canton Vaud. Was shocked to notice that only “official” white plastic garbage bags are approved to be disposed of in public déchèterie ! Not available in local village. Used the usual black 60 L one yesterday. This morning went to the same dumpster saw that my black bag had been removed ( garbage and all) and placed next to the dumpster! I obviously threw it back in further behind the rest of the white “official” trash bags. Interesting to see if some Nazi-like oberfurher will dumpster dive. Any similar experiences?
Keep it up, you will do great here.
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Newly moved here from France, expat USA. Temporarily living in a apartment complex in Canton Vaud. Was shocked to notice that only “official” white plastic garbage bags are approved to be disposed of in public déchèterie ! Not available in local village. Used the usual black 60 L one yesterday. This morning went to the same dumpster saw that my black bag had been removed ( garbage and all) and placed next to the dumpster! I obviously threw it back in further behind the rest of the white “official” trash bags. Interesting to see if some Nazi-like oberfurher will dumpster dive. Any similar experiences?
Just loving it! You’ll be more than shocked ven ze Obergruppensturmbahnführer transfers you to the special section of the déchèterie camp where you vill learn from your mistakes. We hav ways and means to make you… You will learn, Schaps, that nobody stands up the Gestapo!
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Newly moved here from France, expat USA. Temporarily living in a apartment complex in Canton Vaud. Was shocked to notice that only “official” white plastic garbage bags are approved to be disposed of in public déchèterie ! Not available in local village. Used the usual black 60 L one yesterday. This morning went to the same dumpster saw that my black bag had been removed ( garbage and all) and placed next to the dumpster! I obviously threw it back in further behind the rest of the white “official” trash bags. Interesting to see if some Nazi-like oberfurher will dumpster dive. Any similar experiences?
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Newly moved here from France, expat USA. Temporarily living in a apartment complex in Canton Vaud. Was shocked to notice that only “official” white plastic garbage bags are approved to be disposed of in public déchèterie ! Not available in local village. Used the usual black 60 L one yesterday. This morning went to the same dumpster saw that my black bag had been removed ( garbage and all) and placed next to the dumpster! I obviously threw it back in further behind the rest of the white “official” trash bags. Interesting to see if some Nazi-like oberfurher will dumpster dive. Any similar experiences?
Dear Schaps

welcome to Switzerland. I am so sorry to hear of your terrible experience. Sadly, Switzerland is lagging well behind the USA in its handling of garbage disposal, although it's trying hard to catch up. Given that the Alps are made of pretty much solid granite, it's quite hard(!) and time-consuming to get them ready for landfill. Until such time, unfortunately, Switzerland and its Nazi officialdom expect you to pay for your own garbage disposal.

The thinking is that the more garbage you produce the more it'll cost you the more you won't like it the less you produce. Doesn't work with everybody, but the majority of people who live here seem to be able to get it.
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Newly moved here from France, expat USA. Temporarily living in a apartment complex in Canton Vaud. Was shocked to notice that only “official” white plastic garbage bags are approved to be disposed of in public déchèterie ! Not available in local village. Used the usual black 60 L one yesterday. This morning went to the same dumpster saw that my black bag had been removed ( garbage and all) and placed next to the dumpster! I obviously threw it back in further behind the rest of the white “official” trash bags. Interesting to see if some Nazi-like oberfurher will dumpster dive. Any similar experiences?
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Newly moved here from France, expat USA. Temporarily living in a apartment complex in Canton Vaud. Was shocked to notice that only “official” white plastic garbage bags are approved to be disposed of in public déchèterie ! Not available in local village. Used the usual black 60 L one yesterday. This morning went to the same dumpster saw that my black bag had been removed ( garbage and all) and placed next to the dumpster! I obviously threw it back in further behind the rest of the white “official” trash bags. Interesting to see if some Nazi-like oberfurher will dumpster dive. Any similar experiences?
Never had troubles with trash because I can read........but the dumpster in the apartment building I live has a video-camera. Not sure if it's just a decoy or a real one. So, trash is a serious thing around here, like drinking laws in the US....autocratic, big brother mentality, getting IDed when I'm almost 40 for buying beer, the jizz of the Devil

If you dispose of trash in the wrong bag, or wrong trash in the right bag, you're taking your changes and might get a fine from the trash police. Not a joke, there's a trash police.
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Re: New to Ch— autocratic, big brother mentality

You'll find that putting your bag outside the bin was a "warning".


The next step, if your garbage is back in the bin, is the garbage police will go through your garbage, find out your name/address and issue you a fine.



Seriously.
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Re: New to Ch— autocratic, big brother mentality

You should wait for the garbage truck to come around and ask to speak to the manager. It will get sorted out.

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Re: New to Ch— autocratic, big brother mentality

When the white bags were introduced the volume of waste dropped by over 50%, while the corresponding volume of recycling soared.

I think that GE is the only Canton that hasn’t yet adopted this process. If you want you can always throw your garbage bag in your trunk and drop it on an unsuspecting Geneva street. But don’t be surprised when the bill arrives in your letter box.

Or you could drive back into France and try it there. Good luck with that.
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Re: New to Ch— autocratic, big brother mentality

It wouldn't surprise me if the oberfurher was hiding somewhere waiting to see who will put the trash bag back in...
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Newly moved here from France, expat USA. ... Any similar experiences?
Unlike America, things are not always black and white here.
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Newly moved here from France, expat USA. Temporarily living in a apartment complex in Canton Vaud. Was shocked to notice that only “official” white plastic garbage bags are approved to be disposed of in public déchèterie ! Not available in local village. Used the usual black 60 L one yesterday. This morning went to the same dumpster saw that my black bag had been removed ( garbage and all) and placed next to the dumpster! I obviously threw it back in further behind the rest of the white “official” trash bags. Interesting to see if some Nazi-like oberfurher will dumpster dive. Any similar experiences?
I find Gun Ownership very very strange and deeply troubling but I am told that it is 2nd Amendment thing......
I find porn deeply offensive but I am told it is a 1st amendment thing......
I find Bill Cosby's conviction being overturned deeply troubling but I am told it is a 5th amendment thing.

You don't have to like them but if you choose to stay in a country, you respect its traditions and customs. You understand them, you inform yourself.
And it bothers you that much, you leave......

And if you are interested, maybe learn about the truly representative democracy approach in this 'autocratic' country....may put the dual party system to shame which Americans seem to love.....

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Re: New to Ch— autocratic, big brother mentality

and they certainly aren't red white and blue. Learn your trash etiquette; you can't just throw out your stuff without paying for it. Fair and square.
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Re: New to Ch— autocratic, big brother mentality

You’ll be pleasantly surprised very soon about how much you can fit in that little 35l white bag!

Personally, I love our little red bags, as soon as they came on the scene at our gemeinder werkstatt rubbish collection point a couple of years ago, all the scavenging cats, birds, rats and mice disappeared as did the meatbones, old tea bags and rubbish all over the floor.
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You mean the one where the OP whines about getting a letter from the Commune with a fine of CHF x'000 for constantly disobeying the rules about garbage disposal?

There was probably a curtain twitcher watching every move. The OP will now be on a register of disobedient foreigners and will need to be re-educated.

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Re: New to Ch— autocratic, big brother mentality

The same taxed bags are used throughout the whole of the canton of Vaud, bar one or two places, so you can buy them pretty much anywhere. In the supermarkets they're often not on the shelves so you have to get them from the customer service counter.
As others have pointed out, the intention is to encourage recycling of recyclable trash and it has largely worked. The volume of trash pretty much halved when taxable bags were introduced.
You will probably also get a bill for the infrastructure part of the trash system, which will depend on your commune, so expect that too. In my commune it's 99.90 CHF per person per year.
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