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Old 11.09.2021, 20:12
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Re: EF is being discussed on Reddit

Well, I don't disagree at all with the fact that we all make judgements about things every day. But your labels, "deluded, lacking in critical thinking skills, attracted to conspiracy theories, unable to do basic maths and/or being utterly irrational" are mocking in the same way that SusieQ claims from V_'s post.

If this is the post that "mocks" SusieQ, then I don't really see mocking or laughter at anyone's pain. So just because you want to go out nobody else should? Maybe there is more to it that I am not seeing (and can't be arsed to look for).

However, if I were thin skinned and was called "deluded, lacking in critical thinking skills, attracted to conspiracy theories, unable to do basic maths and/or being utterly irrational" I would be offended.

Doesn't it work in both directions?


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I'm all for open debate - but the posts in question are rather like astrologers trying to convince astronomers that astrology is valid.


I judge them from what they post on EF. How else should they be judged? I adjudge this person to make good points, and this one to be illogical and a not really understanding the subject matter. When someone claims, e.g. no one is dying from covid, they're clearly wrong. When they insist, they're True Believers - and by definition, deluded.

When anyone, including you or me, responds to any post, they're making judgements of the poster based on their post. We make judgements ALL the time. The trick is to do it without being judgemental.
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IIRC official reason for my recent two week ban was because I edited a post and apparently deliberately misconstrued a personal attack made by a mod.

What I actually did was defend myself against a personal insult after I disagreed with a mod and then the mod in question was hoist by his own petard. Then he banned me in what I can only assume was a fit of pique. I can't say for certain, obviously, no-one bothered to explain.

But this never happens now...


The new regime has and will likely again ban those with what they view as dissenting voices.
Even if your allegations were true, the fact that you are here and posting again highlights the the big difference: no one has been permanently banned for dissenting opinions.
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Old 11.09.2021, 20:17
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It is a friendlier place for you but not for others with opposite view points. This should simply be a balanced place where discussions can take place without gangs of people baiting and making it a generally unpleasant place to be.

For instance...the trolliest of trolls on here, Fair Dinkum, has spent her time in this thread accusing myself and other EF users for posting this topic on Reddit just because we have opposite views, so it must be us.

At this point, I wouldn’t blame The Local at all for flushing this site down the toilet.
I can't really comment on what's gone on between you and Fair Dinkum. If they've posted something that breaks the forum rules though, then report it to the mods.

I was never one for reporting anything to the mods, the actual problem was the mods. As amogles said, they were in on the act.

Baiting and back and forth banter has always taken place on EF since the very beginning. It's when the playing field isn't level that it's no fun anymore.
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Old 11.09.2021, 20:19
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It's when the playing field isn't level that it's no fun anymore.
Sadly, I agree.
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Old 11.09.2021, 20:27
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Obviously vaccinated people are much less likely to get the disease and hence much less likely to spread it on.
Obviously? Don't want to derail the thread from the meta into actual content territory but that is far from obvious and more than likely false.
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Obviously? Don't want to derail the thread from the meta into actual content territory but that is far from obvious and more than likely false.
However as vaccinated people will have only a minor illness it's irrelevant, My Brother, his wife & a cousin have all had COVID within the last 6 weeks whilst being vaccinated, my cousin only discovered this when he got a travel test to go to the UK a week ago.
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Old 11.09.2021, 20:43
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Re: EF is being discussed on Reddit

Again, there’s an active covid thread for this discussion. FMF: How about copying and pasting your comment over there? It’s quite relevant to the discussion.
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Old 11.09.2021, 21:13
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Fears were expressed and you ridiculed them.
He doesn't, and didn't.
He mocks the double standards behind the, and of course I'm paraphrasing, "everybody should be ordered to stay home [or locked out of the Altstadt] so I can have a walk through the Altstadt instead of them".

If she'd instead said something like "I wish everybody stayed home so I, too, can have a walk through the Altstadt" (I presume) there'd have been no reaction by V__ at all. Because that recognises other's rights as equal, thus no double standards, it's just an envisioning of a better version of reality.

You however claim it's a mockery of Susie's fears (that's simply not the case), and try to shame him into surrendering (it won't work).

How to solve this amicably? Definitely not by filling pages with public posts, regardless of whom the posts come from.
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Old 11.09.2021, 21:44
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However as vaccinated people will have only a minor illness it's irrelevant, My Brother, his wife & a cousin have all had COVID within the last 6 weeks whilst being vaccinated, my cousin only discovered this when he got a travel test to go to the UK a week ago.
I posted a factual reply (statistically correct) to this but LostInbroad deleted it.

He really is not fit to be a mod. It's embarrassing how impartial he is.

Pathetic.
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Old 11.09.2021, 21:46
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Re: EF is being discussed on Reddit

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I posted a factual reply (statistically correct) to this but botsInBroad deleted it.
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Old 11.09.2021, 21:48
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I posted a factual reply (statistically correct) to this but LostInbroad deleted it.

He really is not fit to be a mod. It's embarrassing how impartial he is.

Pathetic.
Reason: I told you that FMF posted the same post in the Covid thread, so that we can at least try to remain on topic, I deleted the post and kindly encouraged you to respond to his post in the Covid thread. Do you need a care team to hold your hands and guide you to the Covid thread?
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Old 11.09.2021, 21:51
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Reason: I told you that FMF posted the same post in the Covid thread, so that we can at least try to remain on topic, I deleted the post and kindly encouraged you to respond to his post in the Covid thread. Do you need a care team to hold your hands and guide you to the Covid thread?
You didn't delete FMFs post. You deleted mine.

If you can't see the difference between those two actions then perhaps you are the one that needs guiding?

And we don't need your tedious, sanctimonious comments either.
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Re: EF is being discussed on Reddit

Got a „post moved reply“. No idea where to.
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Old 11.09.2021, 22:22
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Professional mod work would have been to move all the Covid-specific posts to the Covid thread at the same time and leave a clarifying comment.
Actually, FMF and OG's post were left in order to show that an open dialogue trumps getting offended and yelling as a modus operandi.
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Old 11.09.2021, 22:23
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Got a „post moved reply“. No idea where to.
It was moved to the Covid thread, because it was Covid-related.
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Old 11.09.2021, 22:24
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Re: EF is being discussed on Reddit

To return to the original topic, although I'm annoyed that they doxxed people on this forum without our knowledge, linked to posts out of context and stirred up a storm which none of us were able to reply to until we were made aware of it. The overriding question I have is why???

What did they want to achieve? After all, they've got their own forum there to discuss their own issues. To be fair it was just a few whiners, and many didn't really see the issue. It's not as if any harm is being done on the Coronavirus thread. All discussion is open and people aren't silenced (at least now they're not).

It all comes across as petty and bitter. Also a little nihilistic, "if we can't have it then let's try and destroy it".
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Old 11.09.2021, 22:35
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To return to the original topic, although I'm annoyed that they doxxed people on this forum without our knowledge, linked to posts out of context and stirred up a storm which none of us were able to reply to until we were made aware of it. The overriding question I have is why???

What did they want to achieve? After all, they've got their own forum there to discuss their own issues. To be fair it was just a few whiners, and many didn't really see the issue. It's not as if any harm is being done on the Coronavirus thread. All discussion is open and people aren't silenced (at least now they're not).

It all comes across as petty and bitter. Also a little nihilistic, "if we can't have it then let's try and destroy it".
Whoever opened that thread he spammed reddit opening it on two different subreddits, for increased drama effect

It clearly backfired when you read the majority of posters see there is an agenda behind and they won't bite.

As I said, for a "death of a forum" we seem to be pretty live and kickin'
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Old 11.09.2021, 23:05
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Reason: I told you that FMF posted the same post in the Covid thread, so that we can at least try to remain on topic, I deleted the post and kindly encouraged you to respond to his post in the Covid thread. Do you need a care team to hold your hands and guide you to the Covid thread?
It would appear the half dozen lunatics have taken over the asylum. I hope you and your little friends enjoy your prize.
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Even if your allegations were true, the fact that you are here and posting again highlights the the big difference: no one has been permanently banned for dissenting opinions.
No allegation. A description of events. I was refuting claims that no current mod had banned anyone for anything other than foul language.

In that note I see Tom 1234 has been temp banned for "being a nuisance and wasting moderator time." Really? I wouls suggest that if a member is winding you up so badly, LostInBroad, you take your own "advice" and go an cool off.


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Sadly, I agree.
So do I.

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He doesn't, and didn't.
He mocks the double standards behind the, and of course I'm paraphrasing, "everybody should be ordered to stay home [or locked out of the Altstadt] so I can have a walk through the Altstadt instead of them".

If she'd instead said something like "I wish everybody stayed home so I, too, can have a walk through the Altstadt" (I presume) there'd have been no reaction by V__ at all. Because that recognises other's rights as equal, thus no double standards, it's just an envisioning of a better version of reality.

You however claim it's a mockery of Susie's fears (that's simply not the case), and try to shame him into surrendering (it won't work).

How to solve this amicably? Definitely not by filling pages with public posts, regardless of whom the posts come from.

He was mocking. He states he was mocking and will continue to mock.

Having looked at the link V posted it seems to be to be something of a storm in a teacup: Olygirl said she wished that her town hadn't organised a Christmas fair that year because it would mean a disproportionate amount of people would attend, people that had likely travelled from out of town and would then likely help to spread the virus even more quickly,



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Reason: I told you that FMF posted the same post in the Covid thread, so that we can at least try to remain on topic, I deleted the post and kindly encouraged you to respond to his post in the Covid thread. Do you need a care team to hold your hands and guide you to the Covid thread?
My bold.

How is this a fair and reasonable response from someone who purports to be tolerant? Shame.

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It would appear the half dozen lunatics have taken over the asylum. I hope you and your little friends enjoy your prize.
Sadly, this.
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To return to the original topic, although I'm annoyed that they doxxed people ...
Doxxing is the public publishing of private/identifying information. Unless your real name is TC you're ok.
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