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Old 12.09.2021, 10:44
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And talk about living in a facist state or a dictatorship while living in one of the freest countries in the world.

I put it down to ignorance, stupidity and a visceral dislike of not getting their own way.
I agree that trying to get one's way might be a hard habit to lose for some, maybe it gets worse with age, or something.

What I don't get is the fact that as opposed to imposing strict measures on EF, we put responsibility on users and so far this positive change (which is fabulously Swiss) has worked wonders. We have so many people on board, like never before. Traffic multiplied. We tolerate a bunch of different views, even obscure ones. Nobody gets shooed away. People are grown ups and can put up with what their posting brings them, in terms of feedback. We don't sanitize and don't sweat even large carpet of texts or typos or emojis overkill (phooey). It feels kinder and there is more humor too (I don't mean my ret...my ditzy memes).

I guess it is a matter of perspective, but we let suggestions hang here and it's a good thing. Even the disgruntled well-meant ones.
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Old 12.09.2021, 10:49
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No, I wouldn't. I've been active on this board for 15 years and there has never been this much active bullying as now.
Come on, I joined around the same time as you. Englishtalk? The Swiss cheese forum, or whatever it was called? Have you really forgotten the reasons why they started up?
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Old 12.09.2021, 10:51
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We tolerate a bunch of different views
And tolerate threads which are essentially:

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Old 12.09.2021, 10:55
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No, I wouldn't. I've been active on this board for 15 years and there has never been this much active bullying as now.
Could this be because more people are objecting to your posts than ever?

I choose to enter the bullpit of the Covid/Mask thread. I know that people are going to call me a liar, a sheep, accuse me of being triggered, of hating, of bullying, of calling them names, and generally mocking their (to me) utterly idiotic beliefs, their illogicity and apparent lack of critical thinking skills. I don't feel bullied. I do think there are far nastier people here than on some other forums I go to, but that's the way it is. It's only on some threads.

It's a forum. People express their views. Nobody dies. If it gets so toxic that active numbers drop, moderation will get tougher. Do what I do - put people on your ignore list who just keep spouting the same old dull crap.
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Old 12.09.2021, 10:59
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And tolerate threads which are essentially:

Lib just did not. Whatever we do...we end up famous on multiple platforms, innit.

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Someone is trying to shut this website down

At least this is how I found out that this website existed. But it seems like people want to censor opinions. What can be done about this?



https://www.reddit.com/r/Switzerland...pot_for_covid/
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Old 12.09.2021, 11:12
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No, I wouldn't. I've been active on this board for 15 years and there has never been this much active bullying as now.
I can't take you and Rufus seriously. For example, all Rufus does is constantly wave the dirty frock of the previous priests and tells us how clean and odour free they are. You are not as bad as Chuffus though

The current Mod team is definitely better than the previous one, even if I don't agree with all their actions. You on the other hand are so biased that it is comical.

Under the previous mods, Team-Defrocked mobs were calling for more bans not less. At least I have been consistent now and when the defrocked priests ran their ban stick kingdom.
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Old 12.09.2021, 11:41
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At least this is how I found out that this website existed. But it seems like people want to censor opinions. What can be done about this?



https://www.reddit.com/r/Switzerland...pot_for_covid/
Hello Goddess and welcome to our community.

We are trying to not censor. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't - it is like with everything that counts on people being civil.
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Is this some kind of parody??

Where we talk about science people like TC, terrifisch,svenca, amogles , me.. have been posting information, links, opinions we are constantly under different attacks, .. Constantly been told how we are with a mental disease, should be banned, ridiculed etc... you have not participating in any way, never read a link and gave a constructed opinion but instead what we have is:

hundreds of topics where we talk about how these mods are no good.. how the previous ones were better, how todays topics are bad before it was -great-... and so on ..

Before people would be banned for just saying a word.. or "the mask scratches me" and you guys just wont stop trying to get rid of todays mods and annoying members , next step is RTS 1 and go on a tv talk show (wish there was a jerry springer like show here in CH so a big forum fight can happen and fix our problem here)
Don’t you bore even yourself?
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I am sorry but it's more like a teachers' lounge. Yes, loads of complaints. Parents, kids, all.

And



Why do people who haven't experienced politburos always talk about it, btw?
Back to “Living in Switzerland”: this is turning out like the usual “Neighbours dispute” (which I am currently living in and would have liked to have turned to EF for advice in earlier times). Instead, I need to go through my legal insurance, which is no problem if you are happy living with a pain in the arse.

Maybe all on this site have become a little too Swiss, and now might be a good time to just reflect on the wonderful positives. Any help on achieving this would be greatly appreciated from my side.

It would also be great, if my post was not deleted by a Mod - the messages are filtered out in my mail, and go immediately to Junk - unread.
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Lib just did not. Whatever we do...we end up famous on multiple platforms, innit.

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What does this mean - would love to be let-in on the joke?
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Old 12.09.2021, 12:24
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Awkward and intransparent, in my view.

So if I understand correctly, you somehow put people on probation, or "extended tolerance" as you call it. Without them knowing they have been booked with a yellow card. Then they get banned for something that alone would never have caused a ban. This creates the impression that people get banned for nothing, different standards apply and generally no one knows where the mods draw the line.
I would like to avoid being banned but I do not know what exactly is "wasting moderators time".
I do not send them PMs that they have to spend time on reading and answering, I have no control over which threads they choose to look at and for how long.
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Old 12.09.2021, 12:28
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I would like to avoid being banned but I do not know what exactly is "wasting moderators time".
I do not send them PMs that they have to spend time on reading and answering, I have no control over which threads they choose to look at and for how long.
I have to say you are definitely one of the winners of that competition.
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I am currently living in and would have liked to have turned to EF for advice in earlier times).
Maybe you can look at yourself giving advice and search for problems there? Just a few very recent examples of you being extremely nasty to people asking real questions.

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Could give you all the answers but won’t - You should have kept a record

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Well. You are just stupid.

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Don’t you bore even yourself?


FairDinkum tries hard but does have a TL;DR tendency You however, possess an innate talent, your succinct comments immediately cut to the quick and will ensure that she cannot wrest the highly valued prize of intellectual languor from your grasp anytime soon.
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I have to say you are definitely one of the winners of that competition.
My advice: don't ban with just the reason "wasting moderators time" but be specific so (assuming the ban is defendable of course) you don't end up in these discussions and save yourself a little head ache.

I mean things like "repeated name-calling after warnings", "repeated public off topic calling out of mods" or even just giving a few examples.

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My advice: don't ban with just the reason "wasting moderators time" but be specific so (assuming the ban is defendable of course) you don't end up in these discussions and save yourself a little head ache.

I mean things like "repeated name-calling after warnings", "repeated public off topic calling out of mods" or even just giving a few examples.
How does 'Posting a photo of an administrator, then reporting a ridiculous no of harmless posts & generally wasting both administrators & moderators time' sound to you? Did I forget something? Yes plenty

The idea is self moderation, people need to moderate themselves, it's very sad to ever have anyone banned but it can't be ruled out. It's only a handful of people that continually push the boundaries.

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With Google and a few hours, one can dredge up numerous threads that caused more strife and vitriol. What I don't recall so much of was the demands to permanently ban unpopular voices.

For sure, there were Mods who did this all the time, but what I see now are folks who feel entitled to have people banned (permanently) for having their feelings hurt. Not a trend I like seeing. There are zero posters that I disagree with that I want to see permanently banned, but that is just me.

And whether we agree with the current temp bans or not, they are only temporary.

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I would like to avoid being banned but I do not know what exactly is "wasting moderators time".
I do not send them PMs that they have to spend time on reading and answering, I have no control over which threads they choose to look at and for how long.
I have no idea about the time and energy it takes to moderate a site like this, or if it is paid work. But I do know that I would never do it. I also clean my my WC before my cleaner comes.

I think that the moderation on this site has to put up with a lot of bollocks. Give them some slack.
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Come on, Marton... You have been around here for a long time and have seen Mods come and go. It is never going to be transparent when you have unpaid Mods, who receive no training, and (mostly) try to do the best that they can. I am sure they all have bad days, but do they need to justify to the whole of EF, every decision they make? Time consuming and not very conducive to retaining Mods, IMO...

Additionally, Mods clearly do not get support from ownership, as I think it is pretty lame to terminate any Mods without explanation and not even bother to contribute occasionally.

But you already know this...

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I do not send them PMs that they have to spend time on reading and answering, I have no control over which threads they choose to look at and for how long.
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