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Old 11.09.2021, 13:14
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Susie, it is not a fair play either for you to accuse me that I've accused you or olygirl making that reddit post.

I had a brief exchange with olygirl and it was "come on, it wasn't by pure coincidence you were browsing the 10k topics there on roddit and saw this EF one" , .....

because I'm always stunned whenever something like that occurs, I'm curious mostly because I love understanding better the Jung theory " Synchronicity: An Acausal Connecting Principle"

And about you I only said how you know reddit quite well because you are a mod there so maybe you know somehting about this ...
I do not see how this Jung theory can be applied here when there is no numinosity.
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Old 11.09.2021, 13:19
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Well this is definitely written by an EFfer.
Why? Because you believe it to be correct?

If you do not believe it to be correct then it does not support your claim of " this is definitely written by an EFfer."
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Old 11.09.2021, 13:36
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I think this vocabulary goes way too far. Whether or not you agreed with how the previous mods moderated, to call their moderating "taliban-like" is both unnecessarily dramatic and very rude.
I thought the taliban are the good guys now ?
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Old 11.09.2021, 13:44
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Why? Because you believe it to be correct?

If you do not believe it to be correct then it does not support your claim of " this is definitely written by an EFfer."
Because it names the 3 mods that the cry babies take umbrage with.
Ergo, posted by an EF cry baby.
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Old 11.09.2021, 14:01
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Because it names the 3 mods that the cry babies take umbrage with.
Ergo, posted by an EF cry baby.
I liked those mods and I don’t appreciate this kind of posting. I’ve basically accepted the situation that there are far more critical and opposing views on here than before. However, having an empathetic ear goes both ways so please take into consideration that many of us here liked those past posters and find the many accusations hurtful.

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Old 11.09.2021, 14:05
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I think this vocabulary goes way too far. .

Nice of you to have an opinion and thank you for sharing it. But it's irrelevant since this is how I felt it at the time and you cant take that away from me.
As someone mentioned, taliban is not even something bad now so basically no point in your comment. ta ta for now.
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Old 11.09.2021, 14:09
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I liked those mods and I donít appreciate this kind of posting. Iíve basically accepted the situation that there are far more critical and opposing views on here than before. However, having an empathetic ear goes both ways so please take into consideration that many of us here liked those past posters and find what the many accusations hurtful.
The difference is nobody banned them from posting but they banned people with different opinions like myself, TC, CodPeace and many others who never once used foul language or insulted anybody on this forum unlike some members who are still tolerated under new management.

There are far more opposing views on the forum because the Supreme Soviet leadership is gone.
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Iíve basically accepted the situation that there are far more critical and opposing views on here than before.
Which is exactly the point of having an open forum.
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Old 11.09.2021, 14:33
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Which is exactly the point of having an open forum.
Thereís the aspect of respect which some of these posts lack.
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However, having an empathetic ear goes both ways so please take into consideration that many of us here liked those past posters and find the many accusations hurtful.
Where was your empathy in your massive and repeated attacks against MC and FMF, or when you call for the bans of posters?

You see, this is the typical leftie position:
empathy is only asked for you expect to gain from it, it's hardly ever provided. Quite the contrary, having the wrong position or opinion makes you fair game for all kinds of attacks, including bullying, smears, silcencing and cancels.

And just in case you haven't noticed:
calling for empathy declares you as a victim, no baddie gets that.
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There’s the aspect of respect which some of these posts lack.
TBF that is limited to one or two choice individuals.

TC was banned and nobody can say he was rude or aggressive, even if he does have controversial opinions. He agreed that the accusation you faced of being the Reddit poster was unfair.

Yet he was banned under the old regime. That was my only complaint - otherwise they seemed to be more or less ok.
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Old 11.09.2021, 14:44
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Where was your empathy in your massive and repeated attacks against MC and FMF, or when you call for the bans of posters?

You see, this is the typical leftie position:
empathy is only asked for you expect to gain from it, it's hardly ever provided. Quite the contrary, having the wrong position or opinion makes you fair game for all kinds of attacks, including bullying, smears, silcencing and cancels.
I was told to cool it and I did. Now Iím asking you to do the same thing.
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Old 11.09.2021, 14:47
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Re: EF is being discussed on Reddit

I love EF, with all its good and its bad things. Theyíre inseparable. Like just about any other public space, there are people with all sorts of opinions, on extreme ends of any spectrum.

I think this would be a much better place if we stopped engaging other people with oposing views so frequently and so vigurously. Thereís a ton of people whose opinions I can either not stand at all (and I set them on ignore), or I just canít agree at all. I choose not to participate in those discussions, where I know that nothing good will come out of. A perfect example: I have diametrically opposed opinions to FairDinkumís regarding COVID. Let and let liveÖI just donít join those debates, because we wonít agree on anythingÖand stirring the pot doesnít float my boat.

I hope EF can eventually go back to being first and foremost a place for socializing and helping each other, more than what it seems to be at times lately, a place for confrontation and a never-ending cycle of accussations-counteraccussations.
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TBF that is limited to one or two choice individuals.

TC was banned and nobody can say he was rude or aggressive, even if he does have controversial opinions. He agreed that the accusation you faced of being the Reddit poster was unfair.

Yet he was banned under the old regime. That was my only complaint - otherwise they seemed to be more or less ok.
I don't even know who the "old regime" was. I neither feel liberated now nor that there was something wrong before. It feels like there are more nutters here lately than before, but maybe this is just my perception.
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Now Iím asking you to do the same thing.
What you are doing is trying to control the forum narrative.
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Re: EF is being discussed on Reddit

This thread and others with the same topic even though they may seem redundant in fact it's a great life lesson.

for example, if a member A is describing the EF to someone outside they will say how "the ex-mods were great, the topics were nicer, the corona talk was better, people got banned for a good reason, comments deleted all the time- for a good reason"

and if a member B is describing the EF to someone outside they will say quite the opposite.

So who to believe ? Both can be right and both can be wrong. It just depends from which angle you look at it, what is the criteria... etc.

In what is happening right now in the world it's exactly like this.
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If you consider any/all who disagree with you as "nutters" than you are just fueling the fire

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I don't even know who the "old regime" was. I neither feel liberated now nor that there was something wrong before. It feels like there are more nutters here lately than before, but maybe this is just my perception.
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Old 11.09.2021, 15:18
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If you consider any/all who disagree with you as "nutters" than you are just fueling the fire
I don't.
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I was told to cool it and I did. Now Iím asking you to do the same thing.
The problem is, you don't (cool it down).

In reality you're trying to position yourself as a victim, by which you shift blame on the others. You may perceive it as "cool down" but it actually is quite aggressive and completely unjustified.
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What you are doing is trying to control the forum narrative.
I was asking you to be respectful. Thatís not controlling the narrative.
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