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Bicyclists responsibility towards pedestrians?

What is the priority and responsibility in CH when areas like old city streets are used by both pedestrians and bicyclists?

The streets don't have any sidewalks and in some points seems bicycling routes intersect with the pedestrian route but some of those bicyclists come in a hurry with quite high speed. I had to stop several times as I was afraid they will hit me. Other times, they pass from the back less than 1m away so if I change my direction with 20 degrees seems I will be on their route. One time I even signaled to a speedy bicyclist to slow down a bit and he had a long look at me.

For an adult might be ok, but with a child seems really dangerous.

So, who has priority on these shared old streets without sidewalks? Who is responsible in case of accident? Do accidents happen because of hurried bicyclists?
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Re: Bicyclists responsibility towards pedestrians?

As everything in Switzerland, rules are local.

Huge argument at the moment in Neuchâtel, as the local Government has decided that pedestrian streets should actually be... for pedestrians, and not bicycles, electric scooters, etc- for the very reasons you raise above.
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Re: Bicyclists responsibility towards pedestrians?

My understanding is that on shared streets, everybody gives way to pedestrians. In case of an accident I would assume the blame would go to the faster vehicle.

I've found the worst thing when cycling in such places is pedestrians sporadically changing direction without looking, or stopping suddenly to check their phone.

I've found it best to cycle at a near walking pace or get off an walk the bike when pedestrians are present and only build up speed when the streets are nearly empty.
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Re: Bicyclists responsibility towards pedestrians?

https://www.axa.ch/en/privatkunden/b...itzerland.html
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Re: Bicyclists responsibility towards pedestrians?

Thank you. I checked but didn't found exactly this situation when the old city street is shared with pedestrians.
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I've found the worst thing when cycling in such places is pedestrians sporadically changing direction without looking, or stopping suddenly to check their phone.

I've found it best to cycle at a near walking pace or get off an walk the bike when pedestrians are present and only build up speed when the streets are nearly empty.
We have shared cycle/walking paths in Zug. When I'm cycling I always ring my bell well before I encounter people walking and always slow down to pass. Some people may be walking with less consideration, but at the end of the day they are very exposed compared to cyclists.
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Thank you. I checked but didn't found exactly this situation when the old city street is shared with pedestrians.
Yes, it‘s the same with the electro Trottinet - it‘s a nightmare sometimes on these narrow paths. I usually scream „Arschloch“ several times, also if a crazy person mountain bikes directly at me on a trail in the forest. Seems to work.

Before you can get your iPhone out to take a pic however, they are long gone
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Re: Bicyclists responsibility towards pedestrians?

I was told the priorities are as follows whenever a road is shared;

1. Pedestrians
2. Cyclists
3. Ebikes/Escooters
3. Motorbikes/vehicles

Priorities aside, please ensure your own safety whenever you are on foot or on two wheels. At the end you will get out worse physically. I have seen plenty of near misses in my area just because of this priority mentality.

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Re: Bicyclists responsibility towards pedestrians?

As a pedestrian, cyclist and motorist I have come to the conclusion that regardless of which mode of transport I‘m using, everyone else is an asshole who doesn‘t know the rules
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Re: Bicyclists responsibility towards pedestrians?

You will find all information here:https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/content...V/Altstadt.pdf

Pedestrians always have the right of way in the old town. Cars and bicycles, when exceptionally allowed, must go at walking speed. On the map you can also see which alleyways are considered bicycle lanes.
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As a pedestrian, cyclist and motorist I have come to the conclusion that regardless of which mode of transport I‘m using, everyone else is an asshole who doesn‘t know the rules
Well, that's the assumption you should use anyway.
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