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Old 24.11.2022, 16:30
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Re: Dealers at Swiss stations

In London, where my sons grew up, the dealers were always hanging around the school gates and on public transport after school.

I made a point of having conversations with them (edit my sons, not the dealers) and their friends (the fact that I myself had dabbled and was willing to tell the tales, as far as I could remember them, gave me a bit of street cred, I think).

I did a fair amount of research that we then discussed, and we talked about the drugs themselves, of course, and how they are often altered and stretched with other substances, as well as the cost of producing those drugs to communities, farmers, drug mules, county lines soldiers, illegal, often Vietnamese, immigrants who are forced to grow indoor skunk all over the UK etc. etc.

We also watched a few documentaries which helped to understand the wider implications of drugs in our societies.

It's a very time-consuming process but a rewarding one too. Whenever my son's friend got into trouble, they'd phone me because they couldn't talk to their parents, they said, so I spent a few hours in police stations. While I didn't relish the responsibility, I was glad that they felt safe and cared for with me.

As a result, my sons and their friends were very open and truthful with me (they still are). Sometimes a bit too honest, for my liking.

The one thing that I doubt will ever work, is to forbid it. In my experience, that's a red rag to a bull. When my sons were very small, I told them that under no circumstances were they allowed to stack or empty the dishwasher. They immediately insisted that the could do it and proved it straight away. Unfortunately, they wised up to reverse psychology pretty quickly.

I feel for all the parents who worry about their children's exposure to drugs. I don't think there's much anyone can do to stop the trade outside of schools. There's not enough money in the police budget anywhere, I guess.

For me communication, understanding and listening worked best.

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Old 24.11.2022, 16:42
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Re: Dealers at Swiss stations

I've been told that kids in the States nowadays quite often have their first joint before ever tasting alcohol. This is especially true in States where pot is legal.
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Old 24.11.2022, 16:49
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I've been told that kids in the States nowadays quite often have their first joint before ever tasting alcohol. This is especially true in States where pot is legal.
I believe that has been the case for at least forty years or so.
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I've been told that kids in the States nowadays quite often have their first joint before ever tasting alcohol. This is especially true in States where pot is legal.
…and the drinking age is stupidly high?

US residents do many things for the first time before they are allowed to sip a beer.
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…and the drinking age is stupidly high?
Newer understood why.

It's not as if alcoholism is lower in the U.S. than countries where young adults are exposed to alcohol at an earlier age.
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Newer understood why.

It's not as if alcoholism is lower in the U.S. than countries where young adults are exposed to alcohol at an earlier age.
I think that just proves the point. Prohibition of drinking alcohol in the US is mostly ineffective, but likely costs substantial amounts in attempting to enforce the law. Money much better spent on harm reduction, and assistance to addicts.
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Newer understood why.

It's not as if alcoholism is lower in the U.S. than countries where young adults are exposed to alcohol at an earlier age.
I would say it only contributes to the unhealthy binge drinking culture I know well from my university days ...
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Yeah, people tend to think of "weed" as not being addictive, but it actually is or can be very psychologically addictive.
Perhaps for some people, I used to sell it and almost never smoke it.

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Perhaps for some people, I used to sell it and almost never smoke it.

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Wee if you don't use it, you're hardly likely to get addicted to it, are you?
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Perhaps for some people, I used to sell it and almost never smoke it.

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I gave up in my mid-20s. The street stuff was getting stronger and stronger but inconsistently so. I went from light buzzes to getting wrecked and that worried me. So I stopped buying. At most I’d have a single toke if it was offered to me. But that was it. I started turning those down as well.
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I gave up in my mid-20s. The street stuff was getting stronger and stronger but inconsistently so. I went from light buzzes to getting wrecked and that worried me. So I stopped buying. At most I’d have a single toke if it was offered to me. But that was it. I started turning those down as well.
LOL - my 60's - 70's flower child Dad confessed to me that he tried it again recently and he nearly went to the hospital because he wasn't used to how strong it is now.

I loved it during my university days, but now it sends me directly into a panic attack.
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